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    Default Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    Where do you stand on toolkits vs taking the time to root manually? I've tried it both ways and and I've got to say I'm glad I know how to gain root without relying upon someone's toolkit. I'm not hating on them, but I'm happy I learned how to do it myself. What do you guys think?
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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticPsychotic View Post
    Where do you stand on toolkits vs taking the time to root manually? I've tried it both ways and and I've got to say I'm glad I know how to gain root without relying upon someone's toolkit. I'm not hating on them, but I'm happy I learned how to do it myself. What do you guys think?
    I personally like to do things manually. For me, it's part of a learning process, I enjoy getting to know how the system works. As an added bonus, I've found that having a basic understanding of the processes helps immensely when you need to troubleshoot problems.

    With my Nexus 10, for example, I made sure to know how to manually flash a stock image, install custom recovery and gain root. Knowing how to do stuff like this had me enjoying the 4.4 update the day it was released, while many of the folks on the forums here were still complaining about not getting the OTA update days later.
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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    Couldn't agree more, sir.
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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    I'm new to all of this, so for me, I started with a toolkit. Now that I have gotten that under my belt and have learned more about it, I'm ready for manual.

    I had set a goal of learning how to root for the month of December, when grad school was out of session. The toolkit was a good first step, but now that I understand the terms and process more, m looking forward to manual. I think they provide a good model or example of the process. I got to watch what is supposed to happen throughout the different steps.

    Tonight, m going to unroot and relock my Nexus 7 and do it manually, and see if I can restore everything with titanium to save time. Once I have some experience doing it, I'll do it with my phone. I also hope to try a couple different user guides to see if there are any differences in approaches, all in the name of learning.

    So, I think toolkits provide a good starting place, but I think of you're going to root, you should learn the manual way in the end.

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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    I personally favor the manual method. That way I know everything that's going on. I've never used a toolkit for my Nexus devices, the manual way is just as easy. Plus, I can troubleshoot easier that way.
    Nexus 5 - Stock 4.4.2, CWM, SuperSU
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    I prefer the manual way as well. It helps you grasp a basic understanding of what you are doing and what is needed to fix an issue.
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    Manual for the win! Know what your doing, don't trust someone's random code! I could make a root kit that roots your phone but also installs an app for monitoring your personal activities. That and it's just plain lazy

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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    I prefer manual. My nexus 4 was my first ever root and I did it manually and then manual again for nexus 5. I would only ever do it manually

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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    Quote Originally Posted by paintdrinkingpete View Post
    I personally like to do things manually. For me, it's part of a learning process, I enjoy getting to know how the system works. As an added bonus, I've found that having a basic understanding of the processes helps immensely when you need to troubleshoot problems.

    With my Nexus 10, for example, I made sure to know how to manually flash a stock image, install custom recovery and gain root. Knowing how to do stuff like this had me enjoying the 4.4 update the day it was released, while many of the folks on the forums here were still complaining about not getting the OTA update days later.
    Exactly THIS

    I first got hooked on rooting when I got my Thunderbolt a couple years ago. Not sure it's totally necessary to enjoy a phone like the Nexus 5 but I can't stand limitations and rooting removes all limitations.

    Rooting a Nexus device has become so effortless, I know the commands without looking anymore.

    I rooted my Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2013) manually even though I have a toolkit, I find it totally unnecessary and a little boring, but that's just me.

    The entire process to unlock the boot loader, flash custom recovery and root takes 5 or 6 minutes now.

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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    I did it opposite of some of you. I first did it manually then switched to using the toolkit. The reason? It's easier. I don't need to learn how to do it, because I already did. I unlocked the bootloader and rooted manually first to learn the process, but after that I don't see the point. To me the toolkit's purpose is like any other tool; it's there to make life easier.
    I have a Nexus 4, an iPhone 5, and a Lumia 520, and I like them all. Is something wrong with me? (I really should edit my signature sometime. I have only 1 of these 3 phones anymore, and even that one is mostly unused because it's been superseded by its big brother!)
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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    I've all three of my Android phones (4 if you count the two N4s I've been through). I started with my HTC Inspire 4G using a kit and then the N4 also using a kit. I almost don't why I rooted my Nexus devices. I love stock Android, I even ran an ASOP ROM on the Inspire. But I just enjoy tinkering with phones in general I guess. My friends have come to me to root theirs as well.
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    Google Nexus 5- Unlocked bootloader- rooted 4.4.2-stock

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    Google Nexus 4 unlocked bootloader- rooted 4.3-stock
    HTC Inspire 4G unlocked bootloader-rooted 2.3-ASOP
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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    I only use fastboot on cmd for anything I need to do on my n5, its the most reliable way to go IMO.

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    Default Re: Toolkit vs. Manual Method

    Toolkit all the way. Connect and finding the right driver is toughest part but after that it is cake walk w few clicks.

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