04-28-2017 11:17 PM
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  1. eric002's Avatar
    I have the Nexus 6p on Nougat 7.1.2 as a lot of other people here so as well. How many of us are waiting for the Pixel 2 to come out. There's a lot to be said for the clean bulletproof software, that's for sure. In comparison to Samsung phones which are barely getting updates, or the updates making the phones too sluggish to even use sometimes.

    What are everyone's else's thoughts about that here? Thank you.
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    04-20-2017 12:40 PM
  2. Diehlirious's Avatar
    I have the Nexus 6p on Nougat 7.1.2 as a lot of other people here so as well. How many of us are waiting for the Pixel 2 to come out. There's a lot to be said for the clean bulletproof software, that's for sure. In comparison to Samsung phones which are barely getting updates, or the updates making the phones too sluggish to even use sometimes.

    What are everyone's else's thoughts about that here? Thank you.
    I'm waiting, but it's Pixel XL 2 vs. Note 8 till I find out more or they're released.

    I've never used Samsung so I'm glad you pointed that out. Thanks!
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    04-20-2017 01:13 PM
  3. eric002's Avatar
    I'm waiting, but it's Pixel XL 2 vs. Note 8 till I find out more or they're released.

    I've never used Samsung so I'm glad you pointed that out. Thanks!
    I was actually considering the s8. The problem is the lack of Google software updates of course.
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    04-20-2017 01:18 PM
  4. LeoRex's Avatar
    Oh, I am in pretty much the same boat. I know the Pixels were crazy good, etc etc... but to be honest, I am not really losing all that much. The camera is close enough in quality as to not make a difference (especially with the modified Google Camera app that uses the Pixel's zero shutter lag HDR+ Auto mode).... the 6P's EIS isn't as good as the Pixel's, which Google sort of made a moot point with the addition of stabilization in the Google Photos app.

    6P isn't as fast as the Pixel, but that doesn't mean it's slow, etc... About the only issue I had was that the battery had started to get a little bit tired so I had it replaced and now it's fresh as a mountain spring. With the new cell in there, I should make it to the fall quite easily and my expectation is that I'll replace it with the Pixel 2 XL or whatever they want to call it.

    I've had the 6P for since shortly after launch, so it must be, what, 17 or 18 months now. That's easily the longest I've ever used a phone as my daily driver. And it still performs excellent. So there was little to no appreciable reason to replace my 6P other than "because new"
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    04-20-2017 02:34 PM
  5. Diehlirious's Avatar
    I was actually considering the s8. The problem is the lack of Google software updates of course.
    Interesting, that's something I def have to look into.

    I think you're smart to wait for the Pixel 2.
    04-20-2017 02:56 PM
  6. eric002's Avatar
    Interesting, that's something I def have to look into.

    I think you're smart to wait for the Pixel 2.
    Thank you, I hope so for sure.
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    04-20-2017 03:20 PM
  7. eric002's Avatar
    Oh, I am in pretty much the same boat. I know the Pixels were crazy good, etc etc... but to be honest, I am not really losing all that much. The camera is close enough in quality as to not make a difference (especially with the modified Google Camera app that uses the Pixel's zero shutter lag HDR+ Auto mode).... the 6P's EIS isn't as good as the Pixel's, which Google sort of made a moot point with the addition of stabilization in the Google Photos app.

    6P isn't as fast as the Pixel, but that doesn't mean it's slow, etc... About the only issue I had was that the battery had started to get a little bit tired so I had it replaced and now it's fresh as a mountain spring. With the new cell in there, I should make it to the fall quite easily and my expectation is that I'll replace it with the Pixel 2 XL or whatever they want to call it.

    I've had the 6P for since shortly after launch, so it must be, what, 17 or 18 months now. That's easily the longest I've ever used a phone as my daily driver. And it still performs excellent. So there was little to no appreciable reason to replace my 6P other than "because new"
    I hear ya! Honestly, for me, the only thing I dislike about my 6p is how big it is. Something that more comfortably fits in my hand, and especially my pocket. As far as the phone itself, I can't wait to see what Google does with a bezel less phone, and even more battery improvements. Solid build design...etc.
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    04-20-2017 03:28 PM
  8. bjrosen's Avatar
    I'm waiting for the Pixel 2 before I decide what to do. The battery on my 6P is getting worse and worse so I have to do an upgrade this year. I really really prefer a Nexus/Pixel because of the software updates, I've had the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and now the 6P, but I might consider another flagship phone depending on what the Pixel 2s look like. The Pixels weren't good enough to consider an upgrade, the screen was smaller than the 6Ps and more importantly the speakers sucked. I like the forward firing stereo speakers on the 6P and if they don't fix the speakers on the Pixel 2s I'll move on. If I do move to something else I hope that someone has a flagship with a replaceable battery, I hate the in ability to change a battery. On the Nexus 5 it was possible to change the battery although it was impossible to get a good replacement battery. On the 6P I wouldn't even try to replace the battery.
    04-20-2017 03:38 PM
  9. eric002's Avatar
    I'm waiting for the Pixel 2 before I decide what to do. The battery on my 6P is getting worse and worse so I have to do an upgrade this year. I really really prefer a Nexus/Pixel because of the software updates, I've had the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and now the 6P, but I might consider another flagship phone depending on what the Pixel 2s look like. The Pixels weren't good enough to consider an upgrade, the screen was smaller than the 6Ps and more importantly the speakers sucked. I like the forward firing stereo speakers on the 6P and if they don't fix the speakers on the Pixel 2s I'll move on. If I do move to something else I hope that someone has a flagship with a replaceable battery, I hate the in ability to change a battery. On the Nexus 5 it was possible to change the battery although it was impossible to get a good replacement battery. On the 6P I wouldn't even try to replace the battery.
    I doubt Google will give the pixel 2 front firing speakers. They'll most likely give it ip 68 water resistance. Meaning bottom firing single mono speaker. I mean it sucks, but I'd rather have a water resistant phones than anything else. As for the size, j feel as though 5.5" is large enough at this point for a smartphone, especially is Google will go bezel less design. We shall see what happens next month at Google I/o.
    04-20-2017 03:43 PM
  10. Graymonkey's Avatar
    I wouldn't pay a grand for ANY phone, no matter how good it claims to be. More than likely, my next phone will be whatever they call the next OnePlus phone. "Almost" as good as the Nexus/Pixel phones at 1/2 the price. Not really sure how to go wrong. The only thing I'll miss if I get rid of my 6P is Project Fi. I'm almost always on wifi so I never pay more than a few cents for data. I'm really hoping Project Fi will expand to include phones other than from Google (whatever brand they call them).
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    04-20-2017 07:42 PM
  11. eric002's Avatar
    I wouldn't pay a grand for ANY phone, no matter how good it claims to be. More than likely, my next phone will be whatever they call the next OnePlus phone. "Almost" as good as the Nexus/Pixel phones at 1/2 the price. Not really sure how to go wrong. The only thing I'll miss if I get rid of my 6P is Project Fi. I'm almost always on wifi so I never pay more than a few cents for data. I'm really hoping Project Fi will expand to include phones other than from Google (whatever brand they call them).
    See, yes, I agree with you about how absurdly expensive and overpriced smartphones have become. Even when there was a two-year contract pricing and there was subsidized phone pricing they were expensive. Now the new pixel 2XL is going to be $50 more expensive than the current pixel. That's pretty much $800 for a phone. Now of course they have the payment plans and things of that nature and will I do it more than likely yes because as much as I love my Nexus 6p, I'm getting there I say bored of it and I want a new phone in the future. My 6p, runs perfectly fine. Other than Google Assistant failing to activate every now and then on the lock screen which I am dealing with everything else runs fine!
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    04-20-2017 07:50 PM
  12. neo905's Avatar
    I'm waiting for the Pixel 2 before I decide what to do. The battery on my 6P is getting worse and worse so I have to do an upgrade this year. I really really prefer a Nexus/Pixel because of the software updates, I've had the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and now the 6P, but I might consider another flagship phone depending on what the Pixel 2s look like. The Pixels weren't good enough to consider an upgrade, the screen was smaller than the 6Ps and more importantly the speakers sucked. I like the forward firing stereo speakers on the 6P and if they don't fix the speakers on the Pixel 2s I'll move on. If I do move to something else I hope that someone has a flagship with a replaceable battery, I hate the in ability to change a battery. On the Nexus 5 it was possible to change the battery although it was impossible to get a good replacement battery. On the 6P I wouldn't even try to replace the battery.
    Why wouldn't you try to replace the battery. My screen cracked and I got it fixed. The same shop would charge me $80 to replace the battery. I'd rather do that than drop a G note on a new phone as long as everything else is fine.
    04-21-2017 05:49 AM
  13. chezm's Avatar
    Why wouldn't you try to replace the battery. My screen cracked and I got it fixed. The same shop would charge me $80 to replace the battery. I'd rather do that than drop a G note on a new phone as long as everything else is fine.
    Personally for myself, I'm worried of getting stuck in boot loop and my device being a paper weight. Sure it's not a for sure to happen but you never know, and in that reason I'd personally rather buy a newer device than reinvest back to my 6P.
    04-21-2017 09:53 AM
  14. still1's Avatar
    I have the Nexus 6p on Nougat 7.1.2 as a lot of other people here so as well. How many of us are waiting for the Pixel 2 to come out. There's a lot to be said for the clean bulletproof software, that's for sure. In comparison to Samsung phones which are barely getting updates, or the updates making the phones too sluggish to even use sometimes.

    What are everyone's else's thoughts about that here? Thank you.
    I am getting pixel 2 as soon as its released. (give my nexus to my father in law)
    although i was a fan of big screen now i am thinking about getting a regular pixel.
    04-21-2017 12:03 PM
  15. eric002's Avatar
    I am getting pixel 2 as soon as its released. (give my nexus to my father in law)
    although i was a fan of big screen now i am thinking about getting a regular pixel.
    That's almost the same exact thing as what I plan on doing. I will be giving my father my 6p since it's unlocked and he's on T-Mobile.
    04-21-2017 12:07 PM
  16. Dan_B1979's Avatar
    The Pixel 2 will be very much of interest to me as well.

    Didn't upgrade to the Pixel XL from myt N6P as personally, I didn't see it as much of an upgrade and the price was just daft

    But, it seems that they're all charging high prices now as they know will pay it for the latest and 'best' phone!

    The S8 Plus is very much of interest to me and I may still buy one; but again, I love my N6P, it's absolutely immaculate/as new and I know I'll miss running OS Beta and getting the updates before anyone else etc... That's why I feel the XL 2 will be a good step up

    But then again, the Note 8 could be very much of interest. I've had all the Note's, bar the 7 and loved them all. Still have the Note 3 N9005 for my business handset and it's great and still runs very well!

    I loved the Note 5 920C I had (we didn't get the Note 5 here in the UK so had to buy it from someone who imported them), but still ended up back with an N6P...!
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    04-21-2017 12:15 PM
  17. eric002's Avatar
    The Pixel 2 will be very much of interest to me as well.

    Didn't upgrade to the Pixel XL from myt N6P as personally, I didn't see it as much of an upgrade and the price was just daft

    But, it seems that they're all charging high prices now as they know will pay it for the latest and 'best' phone!

    The S8 Plus is very much of interest to me and I may still buy one; but again, I love my N6P, it's absolutely immaculate/as new and I know I'll miss running OS Beta and getting the updates before anyone else etc... That's why I feel the XL 2 will be a good step up

    But then again, the Note 8 could be very much of interest. I've had all the Note's, bar the 7 and loved them all. Still have the Note 3 N9005 for my business handset and it's great and still runs very well!

    I loved the Note 5 920C I had (we didn't get the Note 5 here in the UK so had to buy it from someone who imported them), but still ended up back with an N6P...!
    Yeah I know. The s8 looks nice but again, to reiterate, the unfortunate lack of Google software updates and bloatware frustrate me just like they frustrate a lot of other people here as well.
    04-21-2017 12:22 PM
  18. PGrey's Avatar
    Yeah I know. The s8 looks nice but again, to reiterate, the unfortunate lack of Google software updates and bloatware frustrate me just like they frustrate a lot of other people here as well.
    Wait a month or two (post-launch) and get a non-branded S8, that should take care of *most* of the bloatware, all the carrier stuff anyway.
    I couldn't go back to an OEM-gated device though, too long on WinPhone, and my 6P, waiting/wondering if/when an OEM will update is nuts, for me. I keep thinking that somehow Google will move to more of a real OS model, where they push core updates, and OEMs just have to keep their "fluff" working, on top of the changes, like WinPhone.

    That said, I'm sort of keeping an eye out for the Pixel 2 XL as well, I like the phablet design, I've sort of evolved from my larger Win-phones into the 6P, and would have trouble going back to anything less than 5.5 or so.

    I'm with the comments on the pricing though; yeah, the Pixel is a nice phone, but it's not THAT nice; hopefully the V2 will cover more ground here.

    Those who got their battery replaced (I sort of debated on DIY, and watched a couple of videos, no thanks, I work on a lot of stuff, but all this "heat it just a little and peel carefully" stuff is for someone who does these, regularly, IMHO), how did you verify the place is good, and uses OEM cells?
    04-21-2017 01:44 PM
  19. eric002's Avatar
    Wait a month or two (post-launch) and get a non-branded S8, that should take care of *most* of the bloatware, all the carrier stuff anyway.

    I'm sort of keeping an eye out for the Pixel 2 XL as well, I like the phablet design, I've sort of evolved from my larger Win-phones into the 6P, and would have trouble going back to anything less than 5.5 or so.

    I'm with the comments on the pricing though; yeah, the Pixel is a nice phone, but it's not THAT nice; hopefully the V2 will cover more ground.

    Those who got their battery replaced (I sort of debated on DIY, and watched a couple of videos, no thanks, I work on a lot of stuff, but all this "heat it just a little and peel carefully" stuff is for someone who does these, regularly, IMHO), how did you verify the place is good, and uses OEM cells?
    The pixel 2 design should hopefully look really nice. Of course I'm still going to play with a Galaxy S8 in the local Verizon store regardless. Next month, we shall see what happens and what Google has been working on. Google knows they have to pull out all the stops so-to-speak.
    04-21-2017 01:47 PM
  20. maverick7526's Avatar
    The pixel 2 design should hopefully look really nice. Of course I'm still going to play with a Galaxy S8 in the local Verizon store regardless. Next month, we shall see what happens and what Google has been working on. Google knows they have to pull out all the stops so-to-speak.
    Google better pull out all stops. I'm pretty tempted by the S8+ though. Saw one today in person, even with the bigger screen the form factor is comparable to the 6P. Adjusting would not be that bad. I just would have to get used to slow updates, which now I see I'm starting to care less about being at the front of the line. Google phones always feel unfinished, kind of like a permanent beta. Hopefully they can come up with something, because if they are going to charge S8/S8+/iPhone money, they need to back it up with a solid product.
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    04-21-2017 10:12 PM
  21. eric002's Avatar
    Google better pull out all stops. I'm pretty tempted by the S8+ though. Saw one today in person, even with the bigger screen the form factor is comparable to the 6P. Adjusting would not be that bad. I just would have to get used to slow updates, which now I see I'm starting to care less about being at the front of the line. Google phones always feel unfinished, kind of like a permanent beta. Hopefully they can come up with something, because if they are going to charge S8/S8+/iPhone money, they need to back it up with a solid product.
    New not to brag on Google phones completely but I do agree with you to an extent. Like I said before the one thing that I dislike immensely about the Nexus 6p and Google phones in general has always been ambient display.. very soon I'm going to go to my local Verizon store to check out the S8 slash S8 Plus I was watching a YouTube video and they compare the two batteries in they said that the USA 3000 milliamp hour battery a pair of very very closely with the S8 plus is 3500 milliamp hour battery. Still need to hold the S8 plus in my head because I need the phone to be more one handed and more pocketable. I like the fact of the always on display and yes I'll admit it some more of the Samsung Futures through TouchWiz. The fact of Samsung phones getting slower software updates frustrating to me so yeah it would be something for me to get more used to so-to-speak.
    04-22-2017 12:30 AM
  22. maverick7526's Avatar
    New not to brag on Google phones completely but I do agree with you to an extent. Like I said before the one thing that I dislike immensely about the Nexus 6p and Google phones in general has always been ambient display.. very soon I'm going to go to my local Verizon store to check out the S8 slash S8 Plus I was watching a YouTube video and they compare the two batteries in they said that the USA 3000 milliamp hour battery a pair of very very closely with the S8 plus is 3500 milliamp hour battery. Still need to hold the S8 plus in my head because I need the phone to be more one handed and more pocketable. I like the fact of the always on display and yes I'll admit it some more of the Samsung Futures through TouchWiz. The fact of Samsung phones getting slower software updates frustrating to me so yeah it would be something for me to get more used to so-to-speak.
    I held the S8+ today in hand. It's about the same size as the 6P, however it felt lighter, and easier to one hand it. It was a little taller though. One thing that could take awhile to get used to would be the placement of the finger print sensor. I don't like how Samsung put it to the right of the camera. I wish they had placed it in the middle of the back of the phone. It's just kind of awkward reaching for it one handed, where as the 6P was more natural.
    04-22-2017 01:28 AM
  23. eric002's Avatar
    I held the S8+ today in hand. It's about the same size as the 6P, however it felt lighter, and easier to one hand it. It was a little taller though. One thing that could take awhile to get used to would be the placement of the finger print sensor. I don't like how Samsung put it to the right of the camera. I wish they had placed it in the middle of the back of the phone. It's just kind of awkward reaching for it one handed, where as the 6P was more natural.
    Yeah I heard that from Samsung. For me though, if I were to get the S8 which I might, I just get used to it or just use the iris scanner. I'm wondering how it fits in one hand myself. Can't wait to play with it in the stores.
    04-22-2017 08:33 AM
  24. maverick7526's Avatar
    Yeah I heard that from Samsung. For me though, if I were to get the S8 which I might, I just get used to it or just use the iris scanner. I'm wondering how it fits in one hand myself. Can't wait to play with it in the stores.
    I always wear a fitness band so I leave trusted devices on. So that usually let's me just unlock my phone, unless I get too far away from it. Then I need fingerprint, or PIN to unlock. It's about the same as the 6P size wise. I can see easily one handing the S8+, the S8 should be easier because it's slightly smaller.

    This is the first time I've been this tempted by something that wasn't a Google phone. It might be time to take a pixel/Nexus break and just go with Samsung for awhile.
    04-22-2017 08:52 AM
  25. eric002's Avatar
    I always wear a fitness band so I leave trusted devices on. So that usually let's me just unlock my phone, unless I get too far away from it. Then I need fingerprint, or PIN to unlock. It's about the same as the 6P size wise. I can see easily one handing the S8+, the S8 should be easier because it's slightly smaller.

    This is the first time I've been this tempted by something that wasn't a Google phone. It might be time to take a pixel/Nexus break and just go with Samsung for awhile.
    You know, that's exactly what I've been thinking. I feel so bad not getting a Nexus / pixel phone, but like I keep on repeating the ambient display the crappy vibrate on our phones just sucks too much. And I would like more overall operating system customization. I'm just worried about the no more unlimited Cloud Google photos backup stores that we might not get with a Galaxy S8 phones. I haven't used the microSD memory card in years! The size of the phone overall entices me.
    04-22-2017 09:01 AM
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