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    Thumbs down Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    It seems like they are missing a huge market by not having the phone work on Verizon. I probably would have gotten one if it could work, but with the great coverage I get and my good plan I'm not willing to leave big red.
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    Pretty much 1+ would have to go directly through Verizon to get this phone certified for their network and build a special model which would increase cost. While I love Verizon's lte coverage. It's about time for them to drop the legacy CDMA network it's far Too Limiting

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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    Name one factory unlocked device that works on Verizon.

    OnePlus seems pretty strict about "no compromise", and making one variant that would have the necessary bands and handing it over to Verizon to lock it down sounds like plenty of compromise to me.

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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    I suppose Verizon is pretty dictatorial about their phones.

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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    Pretty much 1+ would have to go directly through Verizon to get this phone certified for their network and build a special model which would increase cost. While I love Verizon's lte coverage. It's about time for them to drop the legacy CDMA network it's far Too Limiting
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    Look at what happened with the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 2013. Verizon doesn't play nice with companies selling unlocked devices.
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    Quote Originally Posted by Jdane07 View Post
    Name one factory unlocked device that works on Verizon.

    OnePlus seems pretty strict about "no compromise", and making one variant that would have the necessary bands and handing it over to Verizon to lock it down sounds like plenty of compromise to me.

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    Nexus 7. But in general I agree. OnePlus is keeping costs down by making just two versions.

    Also keep in mind that the cost would go up a bit to add cdma radios.

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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    Because they use the wrong radio technology. The rest of the world uses GSM
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    Verizon isn't a huge market considering GSM is in every country that uses cell phones, and CDMA is mainly North America
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomW093 View Post
    Look at what happened with the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 2013. Verizon doesn't play nice with companies selling unlocked devices.
    I still have one of these pieces of junk on my dresser if people's memory needs a refresher. Horrible radios, miserable battery life, delayed updates. Not a surprise Verizon isn't supported.
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    Quote Originally Posted by erwaso View Post
    Verizon isn't a huge market considering GSM is in every country that uses cell phones, and CDMA is mainly North America
    97.3 million people isn't a large number? No argument that the rest of the world is GSM though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
    97.3 million people isn't a large number? No argument that the rest of the world is GSM though.
    Yes it's large. but then there's a breakdown on smartphone users versus feature phone. There are also tablet and hotspot subscribers. Then iPhone vs Android vs Other blah blah blah lol
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    Quote Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
    It seems like they are missing a huge market by not having the phone work on Verizon.
    What do you envision when you think of a Verizon OnePlus One?

    If such a phone were to exist, I think Verizon would demand its logos and bloatware on the phone. The only phone to get an exemption from those requirements is the iPhone.
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    It is an unlocked international device one only for now. It's parent company is Oppo. Oppo still have not have a phone that is carrier locked in the US. So before this phone even gets Verizon, first Oppo phones needs to make deal with US carriers, and if they are going to have a Verizon version, they would also have AT&T version. Also this phone is meant to be sold online only, which mean it is not meant to be sold in physical stores.

    Thirdly, even if the phone have the radio technology to be compatible with Verizon network, Verizon WILL NOT allow unlocked bootloader phones and phones with firmware that is not under the control by them. This is why Nexus 5 is not allowed on their network and their attempts to disable Google Wallet. (Although you could buy a developer edition of the Moto X).

    If you want to be in AT&T and Verizon network, you need to accept that they totally own your phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy01234 View Post
    If you want to be in AT&T and Verizon network, you need to accept that they totally own your phone.
    Unless you own an iPhone. Apple has more bargaining power than most companies do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy01234 View Post
    So before this phone even gets Verizon, first Oppo phones needs to make deal with US carriers, and if they are going to have a Verizon version, they would also have AT&T version. Also this phone is meant to be sold online only, which mean it is not meant to be sold in physical stores.
    OnePlus could make an exclusive phone for Verizon. They don't need to make an AT&T version, especially if the international version is already compatible with AT&T's network.

    As for selling the phone in stores, things may change down the line. The Nexus 4 and 5 are good examples. T-Mobile USA sold both of them in its stores, even though those phones were really meant to be sold online only in the Google Play store.

    Personally, I'm wondering if Walmart would be interested in selling the OnePlus One. Maybe Walmart could bundle it with Straight Talk or Walmart Family Mobile plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
    97.3 million people isn't a large number? No argument that the rest of the world is GSM though.
    CDMA covers the hundreds of millions of people while GSM covers in the billions.... I think I read in Europe it was passed as law that GSM was the standard...... if you make a CDMA phone your basically making a custom phone for Sprint or Verizon..... limiting to just GSM you easily got the US covered between AT&T and T-Mobile but also the rest of the world and keep cost down....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie317 View Post
    CDMA covers the hundreds of millions of people while GSM covers in the billions.... I think I read in Europe it was passed as law that GSM was the standard...... if you make a CDMA phone your basically making a custom phone for Sprint or Verizon.....
    It might be worth it for OnePlus to make a custom phone for Verizon and Sprint if they can make a lot of money from the deal. This is why you have almost all of the major companies making phones with CDMA radios in them. It's all about the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott7217 View Post
    It might be worth it for OnePlus to make a custom phone for Verizon and Sprint if they can make a lot of money from the deal. This is why you have almost all of the major companies making phones with CDMA radios in them. It's all about the money.
    I dunno.... It's possible... HTC tried it with the original HTC EVO 4G and then the HTC EVO 4G LTE with Sprint and the Thunderbolt with Verizon... Exclusive CDMA phones and it didn't help HTC at all.. and HTC makes a very VERY nice piece of hardware, arguably much better hardware than Samsung (at least in build quality).... Google proved with the Nexus 5 you can squeeze all those radios into a nice low cost device..... The biggest problem would be getting Sprint and Verizon to agree... Those two are notorious for locking down their networks.... Still shocked the Nexus is allowed on Sprint...

    But with the Nexus program... Google can kind of afford to do what they've done..... Their first quarter results showed they only have roughly $50 BILLION in cash on hand.... They can afford to make a $500 million inventory/hardware mistake......and make it a few times at that.... Oneplus (or Oppo) can't make a major hardware mistake like that.... Oneplus does not even expect to turn a profit for 2 - 3 years at the earliest.... as they just try to make a name right now....
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    This site says the One Plus One supports LTE band 4, which Verizon uses

    Flying the custom flag: Hands on with the OnePlus One Cyanogenmod phone | Ars Technica
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    Quote Originally Posted by erwaso View Post
    This site says the One Plus One supports LTE band 4, which Verizon uses

    Flying the custom flag: Hands on with the OnePlus One Cyanogenmod phone | Ars Technica
    Good luck first getting Verizon to allow it on their network and then you'd have no CDMA/3G to fall back on making the device mostly useless on Verizon....
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    Quote Originally Posted by erwaso View Post
    This site says the One Plus One supports LTE band 4, which Verizon uses

    Flying the custom flag: Hands on with the OnePlus One Cyanogenmod phone | Ars Technica
    That is for Data (the LTE bands)you wouldn't be able to use it to make phone calls or text messages I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie317 View Post
    I dunno.... It's possible... HTC tried it with the original HTC EVO 4G and then the HTC EVO 4G LTE with Sprint and the Thunderbolt with Verizon... Exclusive CDMA phones and it didn't help HTC at all..
    I would say that the HTC Evo had issues because the Sprint network does not have adequate coverage in many places. As for the Thunderbolt, that had issues with the LTE radio draining the battery a lot.

    OnePlus really needs to ask a simple question: Is it worthwhile to do business with Verizon? For now, it appears that the answer is no, which is why there is no OnePlus One for Verizon at this moment. Maybe that will change if OnePlus manages to sell a lot of phones. It may then see Verizon as a good place to expand. A lot of other companies make phones for Verizon and they seem to do well.
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    My take is its a Verizon issue. They have a choice to allow unlocked phones on their network and they said no. If its super important to you there are other options out there for unlocked phones. Att and Tmo if their coverage works for your needs. Not sure if Sprint will get it but Sprint's network in my opinion is just to slow to even entertain. (VT anyways!)
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    GSM networks do cover alot, but I live in the south in a rural area where CDMA is the only option. ATT and T Mobile don't even exist around here. Verizon 4G is my only option. I love my Galaxy S5 but I would love to see comparable phones at cheaper prices.
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    Default Re: Why no Verizon support on the OnePlusOne??

    I don't have a ton to say other than I was disappointed to find out this phone wasn't compatible with Verizon (I travel the U.S. for a living, so network coverage is everything for me). For one, I can appreciate a company like this that sells a no nonsense, streamlined, and powerful phone at a low cost not bowing to someone like a Verizon that would require a special version loaded with bloat and who knows what. On the other hand, if both companies start getting emails and phone calls from people asking for this phone on Verizon, it may spur them to work out a deal that's a win for everyone.
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