- 04-24-2011, 07:08 PM #101
- 1,131 Posts
One thing I never understood is why the roms were not released in this fashion. Release just a base rom, and for all subsequent minor updates, release a single update zip that only contain the changes.
Base Rom V1.0: 65megs
Update Rom V1.1: 1meg of changes
Update Rom V1.2: V1.1 + 2 meg of changes
...and so on.
Just my two cents.
- 04-24-2011, 07:14 PM #103
- 04-24-2011, 07:18 PM #105
- 04-24-2011, 07:32 PM #106
- 04-24-2011, 07:32 PM #107
With this Wi-Fi issue, my first thought would be something broke during hopping to 1.0.1 from 1.0, and more time would be used to wipe anyway and do a full 1.0.1 flash to remove the upgrade variable as part of the problem (in this case, it appears to NOT be in any way part of the issue, but still; piece of mind).
I can see merit by whichever method to some degree, though. It's really, for me, a personal prefrence thing (however much that's worth )
TL;DR I'm good whatever the ROM maker says is the way they wanna go.
All that said, I'm but a humble user of these ROMS, and whichever way an author went about it, I defer to their expertise over my very fundamental idea of how ROM customization works.
Your 2 cents are worth much more than mine, mmarz, so I will just leave this shiny penny here as my opinion. Mmmm.. Shiny.
I take everyone's opinion and thoughts into account, Kiernon.
It doesn't mean I necessarily listen to them, haha.
Anyhow, I tracked down the problem, and it's a Virgin problem. Let's just say it won't be a Harmonia problem, it's just the first to see it. I'm working on it, but it's not just a simple matter of swapping files, the problem is deeper than that.
Until I can get this fixed, I recommend either 1.0 and suffer the battery loss (stick to 3g?) or Aphrodite.
- 04-24-2011, 08:36 PM #109
It's all good. I've tried for 36 years to get people to listen to me and that hasn't worked out well before! hahaha!
Seriously, thanks again for scoping this out. At some point after this is all resolved and you'd if you have time and/or inclination, I'd like to hear more about what the issue is, if for no other reason than to understand a bit better what you guys go through.
This small setback for users shouldn't be a problem considering everyone was responsible with their own backups before flashing something new.
- 04-24-2011, 08:44 PM #110
- 04-24-2011, 08:48 PM #111
- 04-24-2011, 08:52 PM #112
- 04-24-2011, 08:53 PM #113
- 04-24-2011, 08:57 PM #114
For those wondering what happened,
Short version... We screwed up as a community and lost some important information.
Now, the long version... (rom and kernel builders take note!)
We have to go back to the beginning, to see how we got here. Yes it's long, deal with it.
When RevolutionRed ported the Xionia 005, he brought with it the associated drivers. While this increased battery life dramatically, it also brought the charging bug(s) many experience. Aphrodite continued using the Xionia system, as has Rodimus.
When we all flashed our first roms, we were all excited and no one really paid attention to how we had gained so much battery life, we all just assumed it was due to all of the optimizations. In a way, it's been a long time since RevolutionRed imported that kernel, and no one has really thought much about how those drivers effected us, we had no need to. Our phones kicked butt and we were happy.
When we flash an anykernel update to our roms, you only change the actual kernel. Everything else is retained. When you build a rom, you compile a boot.img. This contains the ramdisk, the kernel, which of course also brings the kernel animation, portions of the drivers, and a few other things. Most refer to the boot.img as the kernel, but in reality, it's only part of it.
Everything was peachy, we had fast roms, and things worked quite well.
That is, until we went back to LG source and brought back some of those drivers while creating the boot.img. While we eliminated the charging bugs, we brought back the wireless driver without knowing how bad it was. Apparently the stock wifi driver is complete and utter GARBAGE. So now we have to swap out those drivers at the boot.img level. I've already sent a message to Picasticks and given him as much as I can to help.
Basically anyone creating a rom from these new kernels is going to run into this issue and anyone flashing the anykernels to a stock rom will have these issues as well. I can fix it, but not as easily or as good as Picasticks.
That means disassembling the phone, sanding off the backside of the glass and re-touching the paint.
The good side, is that this will hide very well, so long as the color matches. The bad side, it's a pain in the neck and not likely to work as well as it sounds.
Just pull up your screen protector, put a sticker over it and put the screen protector back.
- 04-24-2011, 09:42 PM #117
- 04-24-2011, 09:46 PM #118
- 283 Posts
Am I the only one gettin considerable lag in this rom when playin games? I never used to lag in doodle jump, now I get spikes =[ .I like the rom, and thanks for creatin it, the charging was incredible, gonna have to go back to rodimus for a while. I'll come back after an update. Keep up the good work.
- 04-24-2011, 09:48 PM #119
- 04-24-2011, 09:53 PM #120
I'd encourage this information being spread out wherever possible, as well. These are extremely good points that hopefully all ROM and kernel makers be brought to speed on.
In hindsight (always the way, isn't it?) and your explanation, this now makes perfect sense to even someone as limited in knowledge about these things as I have.
I wish nothing but the best, and can only to offer an extra device and feedback to check things out on the future progress in figuring things out, LeslieAnn.
You have my axe.
THREE CHEERS FOR HORRIBLE VIRGIN DRIVERS! HIP HIP HOORA--
Ah, screw 'em.
- 04-24-2011, 10:05 PM #121
- 111 Posts
- Harmonia 1.2
Since I am not away from a charger or my laptop(school) for any length of time that would completely drain the battery, I am going to stick with this rom. Everything just seems to run so much smoother and faster, no issues with lag, startup time even seems faster. I hope it isn't some sort of placebo effect because it's a new rom and it truly is faster than the first version of Aphrodite.
As for the explanation, that was my goal.
It was probably either LG or whoever created the wifi chip that created the issue, but Virgin REALLY should push out a patch, it's really pathetic how bad it is. One of the biggest complains about the V has been the battery, and this is why.
If you stick to 3g, the wifi bug isn't an an issue.
I'm sticking with it and I expect to have this fixed by tomorrow.
- 04-24-2011, 10:22 PM #123
- 04-24-2011, 10:29 PM #125
thats strange because if I go back to the first build i can use it. Now I get incorrect user name and pass word and i know its correct. Ive tryed flashing it twice with no success. Not sure if anyone else is having the problem or its just me. Thought I would put it out there.