- 05-25-2011, 08:30 AM #2
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- 05-25-2011, 10:15 PM #8
No, iPhone will never have flash because it would be giving a large part of the control of web content to adobe. Apple does not like for others to influence how the overall experience on an iPhone occurs.
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- 05-25-2011, 10:20 PM #9
- 05-26-2011, 12:51 AM #10
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Apple believes the would explode and come to an end if someone were to create another jailbreak exploit using adobe flash.
Basic rule of thumb: If anything has even the slightest chance of compromising the device's stability or security you won't find it on the iPhone.
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- 05-26-2011, 02:12 AM #11
- 05-26-2011, 03:28 AM #12
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The CDMA HTC Hero had flash 10 working on several ROMS. I know this because I used to own this phone. My friend Cody still has his Hero and Flash 10 works on the ROM he is using. I now have the Optimus S, and my girlfriend has the Optimus V. So if flash 10 was working on the HTC Hero, which is almost 3 years old, why can't it work on our phones? That are better? The processor is slightly better, it has more RAM etc...
- 05-26-2011, 03:29 AM #13
- 05-26-2011, 05:30 AM #14
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@phreak11 is correct that HTC Hero is arm 6 with flash
chip used in hero
video of flash on hero
HTC Hero: The first Android device with Flash | Adobe Developer Connection
I imagine Adobe just stopped supporting arm 6 and just probably created a build for the Hero at the time.
- 05-26-2011, 05:58 AM #15
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- 05-26-2011, 11:49 AM #17
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The HTC Hero comes with Flash Lite. It is a stripped down version of 10.1 with no gpu support. It depends on the HTC framework. No one has managed to port it to other phones/roms.
The HTC Hero was The first Android device with Flash? [VID] - xda-developers
- 05-26-2011, 11:53 AM #18
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- 05-26-2011, 01:08 PM #19
In this thread now: ANOTHER device besides our V having flash.
Seriously, though, I'd imagine if a port was in any way possible, it'd likely be a known quest for devs to be implementing. I, for one, would absolutely love flash to be working and am at a loss why it's limited on capable devices (al la Netflix not being supported on V officially when it obviously works fine with it).
That said, Adobe products not being open source is kind of a roadblock as well, I'd think.
Still, one can never know what the future holds. There's plenty of creative and clever people tinkering with the V, so who knows.
As of today, however, sadly... It's just not happening.
- 05-26-2011, 01:18 PM #20
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You can get access to most sites that use flash by using skyfire. The reason adobe flash won't work on our phones is because adobe chose to end support for arm6 after running into issues in the development phase. Even the adobe lite that works on the stock HTC Hero rom runs with significant lag. The custom roms for the HTC Hero can't get a working port of adobe lite. That leads me to believe that it will be close to impossible to get working on the V.
- 05-26-2011, 02:43 PM #21
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- 05-31-2011, 08:35 PM #23o_O
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I do have a few tidbits of hope.
No complete solutions, though.
Iceweasel (Debian linux version of Firefox) combined with gnash (linux free flash alternative) plays flash advertisements on my Optimus. It won't play full videos due to the overhead of the terminal interface I'm using.
get-flash-videos on google code, also for Debian linux, captures flash videos just fine on my Optimus, and it attempts to play but the VNC viewer I'm using to access the sd-card Debian installation on my V drops too many frames for the video to be watchable.
The captured videos can be watched on-device with a media player or on a desktop/laptop computer using the Optimus as external storage media.
For example, ancient episodes of Herman's Head came from youtube as .mp4s, playable on-device. I also watched a metacafe video.
Between gnash being semifunctional without even having framebuffer access, and get-flash-videos being able to capture flash flawlessly, it seems shameful that the excuse for no flash on armv6 devices is lack of capability, when it seems more like lack of software support. Deep inside, the V's chipset is very similar to a Snapdragon model from what I've read about the multicore CPU/GPU/FPU/radio.
Someone good with native apps for Android could probably mod and recompile get-flash-videos with the Android NDK and coerce the app to request a SurfaceFlinger based window instead of an X window...
edit: oops, not native code... get-flash-player seems to be written in perl. maybe someone good with perl could use SL4A ( scripting layer 4 android) to implement get-flash-videos on pre-armv7 devices.
- 05-31-2011, 10:32 PM #24
Ah well, your post is inspiring, and I hope beyond hope someone-- much smarter than I in such matters-- finds this to be of help.
- 06-01-2011, 04:09 AM #25
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I actually think its better long term if devices do not have flash.
it will force web developers to encode videos in a better format, since they will want it to be compatible with more devices.
it will promote the growth of better tech.
flash is for desktops. lets leave it there. the internet of the future starts with us, lets not attach a ball and chain to ourselves and waddle towards the future. free yourself of flash and open a world of new possibilities.
Ive already seen some of my favorite flash based websites move to another solution that now works great on my phone where flash would have lagged and been slow and unenjoyable.