09-10-2011 01:44 AM
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  1. mjs2011's Avatar
    Hi, I've read that the operating system on the LG Optimus V doesn't support the flash player. but for us rooted folk, is there any work around for this? I'd really like to use Playon.tv on the phone. Thanks!
    05-25-2011 06:20 AM
  2. theboundless's Avatar
    Nope, our arm6 processor is incompatible with flash, unless Adobe writes the code. Until then, it is for the most part impossible to get flash working on any arm6 processor.
    05-25-2011 07:30 AM
  3. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    Nope, our arm6 processor is incompatible with flash, unless Adobe writes the code. Until then, it is for the most part impossible to get flash working on any arm6 processor.
    flash also isnt good for the processor on any android phone. ever played with one running a video? they get VERY hot.
    05-25-2011 02:23 PM
  4. jmart981's Avatar
    besides the battery issue on the thunderbolt that i was messing with a week ago, the phone didn't get hot under any circumstances...
    05-25-2011 03:58 PM
  5. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    besides the battery issue on the thunderbolt that i was messing with a week ago, the phone didn't get hot under any circumstances...
    Watch an hour long show and you'll know what I'm talkingp about
    05-25-2011 06:48 PM
  6. justinh's Avatar
    Watch an hour long show and you'll know what I'm talkingp about
    im thinking you watch a hour long show with anything..its gonna get hot
    05-25-2011 08:41 PM
  7. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    im thinking you watch a hour long show with anything..its gonna get hot
    exactly. this is why the iphone will never have flash. its bad for the phone
    05-25-2011 09:10 PM
  8. cordoni's Avatar
    No, iPhone will never have flash because it would be giving a large part of the control of web content to adobe. Apple does not like for others to influence how the overall experience on an iPhone occurs.

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    05-25-2011 09:15 PM
  9. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    No, iPhone will never have flash because it would be giving a large part of the control of web content to adobe. Apple does not like for others to influence how the overall experience on an iPhone occurs.

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    and its not good for the phone.
    05-25-2011 09:20 PM
  10. KemikalElite's Avatar
    No, iPhone will never have flash because it would be giving a large part of the control of web content to adobe. Apple does not like for others to influence how the overall experience on an iPhone occurs.

    Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk
    iPhone will never have have flash because it is a "major security issue".

    Apple believes the would explode and come to an end if someone were to create another jailbreak exploit using adobe flash.

    Basic rule of thumb: If anything has even the slightest chance of compromising the device's stability or security you won't find it on the iPhone.


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    05-25-2011 11:51 PM
  11. Kiernon's Avatar
    In this thread: Iphones and flash.

    How the...

    -K

    Also: Arm6 = no pajama flashy-flash.
    05-26-2011 01:12 AM
  12. phreak311's Avatar
    The CDMA HTC Hero had flash 10 working on several ROMS. I know this because I used to own this phone. My friend Cody still has his Hero and Flash 10 works on the ROM he is using. I now have the Optimus S, and my girlfriend has the Optimus V. So if flash 10 was working on the HTC Hero, which is almost 3 years old, why can't it work on our phones? That are better? The processor is slightly better, it has more RAM etc...
    05-26-2011 02:28 AM
  13. phreak311's Avatar
    Check over on XDA at the CDMA HTC Hero ROMS if you don't believe me.
    05-26-2011 02:29 AM
  14. zoidberg_md's Avatar
    @phreak11 is correct that HTC Hero is arm 6 with flash
    chip used in hero
    http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=...lcomm_msm7200a
    video of flash on hero
    HTC Hero: The first Android device with Flash | Adobe Developer Connection

    I imagine Adobe just stopped supporting arm 6 and just probably created a build for the Hero at the time.
    05-26-2011 04:30 AM
  15. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    @phreak11 is correct that HTC Hero is arm 6 with flash
    chip used in hero
    Qualcomm MSM7200A - CPUlist | PDAdb.net - Comprehensive Database of Smartphone, PDA, PDA Phone, PNA, netbook & Mobile Device Specifications
    video of flash on hero
    HTC Hero: The first Android device with Flash | Adobe Developer Connection

    I imagine Adobe just stopped supporting arm 6 and just probably created a build for the Hero at the time.
    port... port... port.. port.. port.. PORT!
    05-26-2011 04:58 AM
  16. vee's Avatar
    port... port... port.. port.. port.. PORT!
    You just ruined your entire argument for the whole thread. Wish there was a facepalm smiley.

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    05-26-2011 07:15 AM
  17. mmarz's Avatar
    The HTC Hero comes with Flash Lite. It is a stripped down version of 10.1 with no gpu support. It depends on the HTC framework. No one has managed to port it to other phones/roms.

    The HTC Hero was The first Android device with Flash? [VID] - xda-developers
    05-26-2011 10:49 AM
  18. KemikalElite's Avatar
    port... port... port.. port.. port.. PORT!
    Think about it. If we are a community with enough ability to port AOSP/CM7/Gingerbread maybe it would be possible to take the ARMv6 flash from the Hero.

    Then again Adobe Flash is closed source, right?

    Sent from my Optimus V using Tapatalk
    05-26-2011 10:53 AM
  19. Kiernon's Avatar
    In this thread now: ANOTHER device besides our V having flash.

    I jest.

    Seriously, though, I'd imagine if a port was in any way possible, it'd likely be a known quest for devs to be implementing. I, for one, would absolutely love flash to be working and am at a loss why it's limited on capable devices (al la Netflix not being supported on V officially when it obviously works fine with it).

    That said, Adobe products not being open source is kind of a roadblock as well, I'd think.

    Still, one can never know what the future holds. There's plenty of creative and clever people tinkering with the V, so who knows.

    As of today, however, sadly... It's just not happening.

    -K
    05-26-2011 12:08 PM
  20. mmarz's Avatar
    You can get access to most sites that use flash by using skyfire. The reason adobe flash won't work on our phones is because adobe chose to end support for arm6 after running into issues in the development phase. Even the adobe lite that works on the stock HTC Hero rom runs with significant lag. The custom roms for the HTC Hero can't get a working port of adobe lite. That leads me to believe that it will be close to impossible to get working on the V.
    05-26-2011 12:18 PM
  21. davidh44's Avatar
    You can get access to most sites that use flash by using skyfire. The reason adobe flash won't work on our phones is because adobe chose to end support for arm6 after running into issues in the development phase. Even the adobe lite that works on the stock HTC Hero rom runs with significant lag. The custom roms for the HTC Hero can't get a working port of adobe lite. That leads me to believe that it will be close to impossible to get working on the V.
    Skyfire seems to only recognize one Flash video per page. So if there are multiple Flash videos on a page, you're SOL unless there's a link to get the subsequent videos to show up on their own pages.
    05-26-2011 01:43 PM
  22. cordoni's Avatar
    ....Wish there was a facepalm smiley.

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    Here you go!

    Attachment 10051

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    05-28-2011 04:55 PM
  23. bigsupersquid's Avatar
    I do have a few tidbits of hope.
    No complete solutions, though.
    Iceweasel (Debian linux version of Firefox) combined with gnash (linux free flash alternative) plays flash advertisements on my Optimus. It won't play full videos due to the overhead of the terminal interface I'm using.

    get-flash-videos on google code, also for Debian linux, captures flash videos just fine on my Optimus, and it attempts to play but the VNC viewer I'm using to access the sd-card Debian installation on my V drops too many frames for the video to be watchable.
    The captured videos can be watched on-device with a media player or on a desktop/laptop computer using the Optimus as external storage media.
    For example, ancient episodes of Herman's Head came from youtube as .mp4s, playable on-device. I also watched a metacafe video.

    Between gnash being semifunctional without even having framebuffer access, and get-flash-videos being able to capture flash flawlessly, it seems shameful that the excuse for no flash on armv6 devices is lack of capability, when it seems more like lack of software support. Deep inside, the V's chipset is very similar to a Snapdragon model from what I've read about the multicore CPU/GPU/FPU/radio.

    Someone good with native apps for Android could probably mod and recompile get-flash-videos with the Android NDK and coerce the app to request a SurfaceFlinger based window instead of an X window...

    edit: oops, not native code... get-flash-player seems to be written in perl. maybe someone good with perl could use SL4A ( scripting layer 4 android) to implement get-flash-videos on pre-armv7 devices.
    05-31-2011 07:35 PM
  24. Kiernon's Avatar
    *Snip*
    Between gnash being semifunctional without even having framebuffer access, and get-flash-videos being able to capture flash flawlessly, it seems shameful that the excuse for no flash on armv6 devices is lack of capability, when it seems more like lack of software support. Deep inside, the V's chipset is very similar to a Snapdragon model from what I've read about the multicore CPU/GPU/FPU/radio.
    Completely agree with what you're saying, squidster. Anybody using this device a fair share of time with different ROMS can feel the limits of the device eventually. This has been a pretty big irk for me with this device, as well.

    So underestimated.

    Ah well, your post is inspiring, and I hope beyond hope someone-- much smarter than I in such matters-- finds this to be of help.

    -K
    05-31-2011 09:32 PM
  25. watskyhotsky's Avatar
    I actually think its better long term if devices do not have flash.

    it will force web developers to encode videos in a better format, since they will want it to be compatible with more devices.

    it will promote the growth of better tech.

    flash is for desktops. lets leave it there. the internet of the future starts with us, lets not attach a ball and chain to ourselves and waddle towards the future. free yourself of flash and open a world of new possibilities.


    Ive already seen some of my favorite flash based websites move to another solution that now works great on my phone where flash would have lagged and been slow and unenjoyable.
    06-01-2011 03:09 AM
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