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    Default Moto G: Motorola Moto G vs. Nokia Lumia 520

    Hello,

    I currently own a Lumia 520 (windows 8 phone), and it is the first smartphone I have ever owned. I actually like the phone, but the small amount of apps I care for are buggy or I simply can barely "deal" with theme (podcast are important for me). I'm at the point where I'm not sure I can take it anymore, so I'm seriously considering switching over to a kitkat Android phone, but I'm curious if anyone has any advise? Anyone ever use a Windows 8 phone?

    I prefer something fairly compact; size wise the Moto G is a the same width and depth so I'm happy.
    Lumia 520
    Height: 4.72
    Width: 2.52
    Thickness: .39

    Moto G
    Height 5.11
    Width 2.59
    Depth .24-.46 (curve)

    I'm concerned about battery life, because the Nokia phone/OS combination does about as good as a job as a battery powered device does. I also like the good responsiveness of the W OS despite the specifications of the Lumia 520.
    Price, although over twice as much as the Nokia, is barely acceptable.

    Other than that, I don't know what to expect.

    Yes yes, I know 8.1 is around the corner, sorry, I don't care.
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    I'd go with the Moto G. It gets great battery life, has removable back cover available in different colors, and a water repellent coating.

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    I currently have a Lumia 520 and a Moto G and the Moto G is the much better phone. I even prefer it to my Nexus 5, mostly due to its compact size and better battery life. The Moto battery will last much longer than the 520 with similar use. The screen is far better, the cameras are similar, the Moto G has a more pleasant feel and of course you get KitKat with access to the Google Play store. Android 4.4 is so much better than WP8 that's it's just silly.

    The only downside is the lack of expandable storage with the Moto, not a problem though if you utilise Google Drive.

    Lumia 520 > Moto G is definitely an upgrade and I wouldn't hesitate to switch.

    I also had a Lumia 925 and a Lumia 1020. I loved the 1020 but I've all but given up on Windows Phone now, I only have the 520 to see how 8.1 looks when it arrives. I got sick of waiting for features that are already available on very nice Android phones. Also, they say the app gap has narrowed but I didn't have a banking app or Sky Go, BT Sports, etc, etc. It looks to me that even with 8.1 coming that WP will still be playing catch up.

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    How locked are you to the Windows Phone ecosystem?
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    How locked are you to the Windows Phone ecosystem?
    WP8 doesn't really tie in to an ecosystem. Apps for example have to be bought separately on WP8 and Windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdc1 View Post
    WP8 doesn't really tie in to an ecosystem. Apps for example have to be bought separately on WP8 and Windows.

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    Default Re: Motorola Moto G vs. Nokia Lumia 520

    Opps, I have a correction to make, I have the Lumia 521 not the 520.

    Does anyone have any experience with 4G LTE? T-Mobile has self-defined "excellent/very strong 4G LTE" coverage in my area.
    I'm a little concerned about the Moto G not having this feature, but what do I know. I stream podcast often, and sometimes brows the internet... often websites feel slow with my Lumia 521, and that is on 4G.

    Moto X looks nice, but that an additional $150; I can afford it, but call me strange considering I think that is too much to spend on a phone... dang it, why can't someone just make a decent podcast app for W8
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    I switched from a Lumia 520 to a Moto G and have been very happy with it. As for network speeds, although the 520 says 4g its the same as Moto G's 3g. Both are HSPA+.

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    I'm really having a hard time understanding this, cell phones are not my hobby

    I was looking at the Moto G (US version, not Global - I'm reading the Global version will bog down to 2G on T-Mobile). The Moto G will give me 3G HSPA+ @ 21MBps (not 42); with the Moto X I will get T-Mobile "4G" (HSPA+ @ 42MBps), and also 4G LTE.

    OK, so my 521 was 3G. I understand that the Moto G is HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (not 42Mbps), I guess the 520/521 is the same? If my data speed is the same as on my Nokia, then I can live with that.

    Regardless, I already purchased the Moto G, but I'm still having conflicting thoughts if I should have rather went with the Moto X .
    Moto X apparently doesn't have wifi calling on T-Mobile, and I kind of want that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_Sewell View Post
    I switched from a Lumia 520 to a Moto G and have been very happy with it. As for network speeds, although the 520 says 4g its the same as Moto G's 3g. Both are HSPA+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Sparrow View Post
    I'm really having a hard time understanding this, cell phones are not my hobby

    I was looking at the Moto G (US version, not Global - I'm reading the Global version will bog down to 2G on T-Mobile). The Moto G will give me 3G HSPA+ @ 21MBps (not 42); with the Moto X I will get T-Mobile "4G" (HSPA+ @ 42MBps), and also 4G LTE.

    OK, so my 521 was 3G. I understand that the Moto G is HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (not 42Mbps), I guess the 520/521 is the same? If my data speed is the same as on my Nokia, then I can live with that.

    Regardless, I already purchased the Moto G, but I'm still having conflicting thoughts if I should have rather went with the Moto X .
    Moto X apparently doesn't have wifi calling on T-Mobile, and I kind of want that.
    Speeds are the same on Moto G and 520. The X will get HSPA+42 and LTE.
    As for WiFi calling, only T-Mo branded phones get it. The X doesn't have it, but I still think it's a great upgrade over the G.

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    Default Re: Motorola Moto G vs. Nokia Lumia 520

    I have the Moto G in my hands

    First impressions of Android... don't like it. Too complicated, not as in I can't figure it out complicated, but I like things more simplistic. I like they way W8.1 is in navigation and menus. If only the apps in W8 phone worked...

    I should probably give it some time
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Sparrow View Post
    I have the Moto G in my hands

    First impressions of Android... don't like it. Too complicated, not as in I can't figure it out complicated, but I like things more simplistic. I like they way W8.1 is in navigation and menus. If only the apps in W8 phone worked...

    I should probably give it some time
    Complicated? You want more simplicity than stock android?
    Oh well, go for your W8.1 then

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Sparrow View Post
    I have the Moto G in my hands

    First impressions of Android... don't like it. Too complicated, not as in I can't figure it out complicated, but I like things more simplistic. I like they way W8.1 is in navigation and menus. If only the apps in W8 phone worked...

    I should probably give it some time
    Anything specifically that you find hard to use? Could just be that I've been using it for years, but stock Android is extremely intuitive to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    Anything specifically that you find hard to use? Could just be that I've been using it for years, but stock Android is extremely intuitive to use.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4 running SlimKat 4.4.2
    Not necessarily hard to use, maybe just too tedious, not "relaxed". Maybe I'm strange, because the little things drive me insane, like the 5 screens and you are stuck with theme, can't disable the other 4 screens (Moto G).

    They both are alright phones, usually I would find myself reaching for the Nokia; this isn't a hobby of mine, all I really want is decent reception, POP/IMAP email, internet access, and podcast.

    I'm sure the Android has more features, and some unique things I wish I could have, but it also has a lot of fluff imho. I wish I could get Chrome on the Nokia..lol. I have found OneDrive surprisingly useful yesterday. I really like the compactness of the Lumia 521.

    In all honestly, for a short while I was undecided on which one to keep, but it looks like it will be the Lumia 521.
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    Sounds like you're just used to how things work on WP. It can take some time to adjust to using Android.

    And getting rid of the extra pages on the Moto G home screen can be accomplished by installing a different launcher like Nova.

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    My opinion: Moto G wins hands down. It's got a camera with flash, a quad core processor, a screen that will be pleasing to the eye, and is a decent price.

    I had a 521, hated it. It was very laggy and constantly was crashing! I got an 810 to replace it. It's a good phone but I think Windows phones aren't my cup of tea.

    I like Android, iOS, and BlackBerry.


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    Tough because at low end price is everything and the WP8 is optimized well for all devices and preforms great on the 521 but Moto G for sure, slightly more expensive but worth the cost for battery life, updates including later with CM if needed and lastly it's Android so the app store will be more fulfilling for a long time.

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    Just to be clear among all the fanboys, with similar use you will get more battery life, a smoother experience and removable storage on the Lumia.

    The moto G will win if you need a FFC, flash or tons of trivial flavor of the week apps.

    Going as low as $40, I feel that choosing anything over the 520 is a bit bizarre but some people like Android. It has more customization and apps. However, you will not get a quality or intuitive experience on it.
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    I wouldnt call myself a fan boy, I owned a 920 for 10 months, and I still like WP8. However, apps like banking, stock alarm and clock function apps that are reliable and included in cost, reliable app updates, and true Google support are a few things I wouldn't call trivial flavor of the week. And reading most reviews the relatively stock experience of the Moto phones and smoothness of kitkat are quite quality focused.
    However lumia has a smooth limited, can't break experience. It has typically high build quality and good performance for a 512mb ram device (that being important for some WP8 apps) as far as anything else, camera, talk quality, and screen it's a wash. I'd you're not a complicated user and don't need support of a broader development community, lumia is great because of in house support. But WP8 has a lot of ground to go on the app gap they claim to have improved so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duoFurious View Post
    I wouldnt call myself a fan boy, I owned a 920 for 10 months, and I still like WP8. However, apps like banking, stock alarm and clock function apps that are reliable and included in cost, reliable app updates, and true Google support are a few things I wouldn't call trivial flavor of the week. And reading most reviews the relatively stock experience of the Moto phones and smoothness of kitkat are quite quality focused.
    However lumia has a smooth limited, can't break experience. It has typically high build quality and good performance for a 512mb ram device (that being important for some WP8 apps) as far as anything else, camera, talk quality, and screen it's a wash. I'd you're not a complicated user and don't need support of a broader development community, lumia is great because of in house support. But WP8 has a lot of ground to go on the app gap they claim to have improved so much.

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    I apologize, I was more talking about the people saying the 520 was lagging and crashing. I've used over 15 Windows Phones to date, 9 of them being WP8 devices ad have used them pretty heavily. Never once have I seen an absolute phone crash and less than 10 times have I seen an app shut itself down. The app gap is certainly bad on the smaller businesses scale. For instance, I use a bank that only encompasses about 6 cities. If I hadn't made the app for them, we never would've gotten that unless we have some sudden burst in users.

    i certainly wouldn't call the camera a wash though, Nokia has proven time and time again that they're constantly ahead of the curve in camera software.

    Oh, as far as Google services go, blame Google. I wouldn't touch their services with a ten foot pole as I feel that they've proven to be much more evil and deserving of an anti-trust suit than Microsoft ever was in the early nineties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z33dev33l View Post
    I apologize, I was more talking about the people saying the 520 was lagging and crashing. I've used over 15 Windows Phones to date, 9 of them being WP8 devices ad have used them pretty heavily. Never once have I seen an absolute phone crash and less than 10 times have I seen an app shut itself down. The app gap is certainly bad on the smaller businesses scale. For instance, I use a bank that only encompasses about 6 cities. If I hadn't made the app for them, we never would've gotten that unless we have some sudden burst in users.

    i certainly wouldn't call the camera a wash though, Nokia has proven time and time again that they're constantly ahead of the curve in camera software.

    Oh, as far as Google services go, blame Google. I wouldn't touch their services with a ten foot pole as I feel that they've proven to be much more evil and deserving of an anti-trust suit than Microsoft ever was in the early nineties.
    Oh ok. Well I agree with you that Nokia has done cameras right. I'm just saying that with 5mp or so cameras there is only so much you can do. And as far as Google services I see your point but the same could be said about Microsoft mail as well, just not as publicized. I mean Google is the one who has to fight the government asking to see everyone's info all the time. I could be wrong but I think Google is one of the company's fighting it. They only do so for ads that you aren't seeing a woman's product ad when your a guy for an obvious example. They don't save that type of stuff or sell it to third parties.
    However I do agree that it's preferences that guide me to Google personally but I utilize all the offer. And I do love cheap Nokia phones. Truly I desire completion of the big 4, Google, Apple, Microsoft, BlackBerry. I wish apps were universally available and the platforms themselves were what was the decision. Then we would see true innovation. Not the app gap excuse or proprietary development (apple) creating a "superior" like attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duoFurious View Post
    Oh ok. Well I agree with you that Nokia has done cameras right. I'm just saying that with 5mp or so cameras there is only so much you can do. And as far as Google services I see your point but the same could be said about Microsoft mail as well, just not as publicized. I mean Google is the one who has to fight the government asking to see everyone's info all the time. I could be wrong but I think Google is one of the company's fighting it. They only do so for ads that you aren't seeing a woman's product ad when your a guy for an obvious example. They don't save that type of stuff or sell it to third parties.
    However I do agree that it's preferences that guide me to Google personally but I utilize all the offer. And I do love cheap Nokia phones. Truly I desire completion of the big 4, Google, Apple, Microsoft, BlackBerry. I wish apps were universally available and the platforms themselves were what was the decision. Then we would see true innovation. Not the app gap excuse or proprietary development (apple) creating a "superior" like attitude.

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    Google also stops third parties from utilizing their APIs to make apps to fill in the gaps that they refuse to fill on platforms like Windows 8 and Windows Phone. On top of that, both them and Apple allowed the installation of CIQ software on the devices, a huge source of info for government agencies. They try to make themselves out to be the good guys and I wish they either would be or would stop buying out the companies that are. Between Google and Facebook buying up everything good, it offers a real hindrance to those of us who don't like data theft.
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    On top of that, both them and Apple allowed the installation of CIQ software on the devices, a huge source of info for government agencies.
    To clarify, on iOS, Blackberry and Android, in the US it is only devices on Sprint, T-Mobile & AT&T that can have CIQ installed. That's not a Google or Apple invited service and Verizon doesn't use them because it has their own software that keeps it in-house and Google doesn't allow it on Nexus devices.
    To avoid CIQ requires any of the following: being with Verizon, buying OEM unlocked devices directly from the OEM (not always 100% surefire, always wise to ask if this is big to you), buying Windows Phone or buying a Nexus.
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    To clarify, on iOS, Blackberry and Android, in the US it is only devices on Sprint, T-Mobile & AT&T that can have CIQ installed. That's not a Google or Apple invited service and Verizon doesn't use them because it has their own software that keeps it in-house and Google doesn't allow it on Nexus devices.
    To avoid CIQ requires any of the following: being with Verizon, buying OEM unlocked devices directly from the OEM (not always 100% surefire, always wise to ask if this is big to you), buying Windows Phone or buying a Nexus.
    So would it be carriers that allow or put this on the devices? and would it be included on software like CM or other alternative OS distributions?
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    So would it be carriers that allow or put this on the devices? and would it be included on software like CM or other alternative OS distributions?
    CM does not have it in any version I've ever heard of. It is not clear at what stage of software updating it is added, but the relationship is with the carrier and CIQ, not the OEM in most cases. If you're getting a custom ROM, it is most likely not there, however I don't know if forks like Amazon or FireFox's Android distributions will have it on their devices.

    About CIQ: The app really isn't sinister in nature, it is quite useful to the carriers - the controversy lies in the facts that it was hidden, they lied about its capabilities, it's not easily removable by the user, it's not "opt-in" and as Z33dev33l alluded to, we don't know to what extent that information is actually shared and under what circumstances. It has become more transparent, but has nowhere near enough transparency for people to be comfortable with it and the idea that they're being dealt with as participating adults, rather than tricked into something they might have declined.

    It might be a good idea to move the CIQ discussion to one of its threads as I don't want to derail the discussion about the device decisions.
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