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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    I think its partially due to the divisive nature of this administration.


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    Yup, definitely hostility.
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    Discussions like these only get hostile when they're between people who cannot listen to or accept any opinions other than their own. Some of us have contributed to the thread without any hostility at all. If you see my previous post, I said that the thread title seemed as though this thread could be fueled a little by hate because there are no concrete facts proven that that the President has committed any crimes to warrant impeachment. But we cleared up the fact that Live2ride883 said that there are some actions by the President that he feels could be further investigated. I think there is nothing wrong with that and that is a fair statement. All I can do is speak for me and it's a lot easier to understand where he's coming from now that he put it in a different way. For me, I think the title is the reason the thread went the way it did but I believe it's back on track now if someone looking in will read from about a page or 2 back until now.

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    While not directly related to this thread the link below does address the issue of voter fraud during the last election. Which has been brought up in the past.

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    I just read that article and it sounds like pure speculation. I won't get into the voter fraud accusations because there are forever going to be people who think everything is a conspiracy. It was also a coincidence in Bush's run for President that his brother was the Governor of the only state where there needed to be a re-count of votes and magically it ended up in his favor. No one talked about that though. People can build their theories and write articles freely on the Internet, so don't just believe everything you read. This country is starting to become built on nonsense.

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    The hanging chad...
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    Answer NO. If, and when, he does something impeachable, YES.

    Honestly, I think all this, and other talk about removing Obama, is just sour grapes.

    Birthers, impeach, treason, "liar", insults, inactive Congress, etc. etc. etc....

    Stop already. There is work to be done, a country to govern, issues to address. Putting America into paralysis while pursuing that which wasn't achieved at the ballot box puts America in peril.

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    4 Constitutional experts weigh in on 12 actions that could be considered impeachable actions by not only the president, but his staff as well.
    Personally I am glad I read it, and I hope others that participate in this thread will read it as well. No matter which side your on.


    It's a good article with arguments for and against impeachment.

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    Here's what I dont get..... "The House of Representatives must first pass, by a simple majority of those present and voting, articles of impeachment, which constitute the formal allegation or allegations."

    The republicans have controlled the House during O's first term and now his 2nd.

    If the evidently "growing case" exists.... why are no charges being brought forth by the Republican Controlled House?

    Fortunately, the House Republicans are not Neo-Conservative Bloggers or Websites or the other partisan/conspiracy obsessed sources listed in this thread.

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    Here is the list of experts from the page I linked earlier, honestly and this is no insult to you or anyone else but their credentials give their statements more weight than yours.

    Bruce Fein

    Constitutional scholar Bruce Fein
    Bruce Fein is the legal scholar who is best known for having drafted articles of impeachment against former President Bill Clinton for perjury after he lied under oath about having sexual relations with an intern.
    Fein also drafted articles of impeachment against former President George W. Bush and former Vice President **** Cheney. In 2011, he drew up formal articles of impeachment against President Obama for his use of military action against Libya without congressional authorization.
    Fein was a top Justice Department official under the Reagan administration. He graduated with honors from Harvard Law School in 1972. Fein clerked for a prestigious federal court, and has served in top positions in the Office of Legal Counsel and the Office of Legal Policy. He has served as visiting fellow for constitutional studies at the Heritage Foundation, adjunct scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and guest lecturer at the Brookings Institute.
    Fein specializes in constitutional and international law and is a frequent witness before Congress. He is chairman of the American Freedom Agenda, founder of Bruce Fein & Associates Inc. and The Lichfield Group and author of “Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for our Constitution and Democracy.”
    As for his political persuasion, Fein told WND, “I criticized Nixon. I criticized Clinton. I criticized Bush and Cheney. I criticize Obama. I don’t have any reluctance because I view myself as an American first.”
    Herbert Titus

    Constitutional scholar Herbert Titus
    Herbert Titus, counsel to the law firm William J. Olson, previously taught constitutional law, common law and other subjects for 30 years at five different American Bar Association-approved law schools. From 1986 to 1993, he was the founding dean of the College of Law and Government at Regent University.
    And before that, he was a trial attorney and special assistant U.S. attorney with the Department of Justice.
    Titus’ degrees are from Harvard and the University of Oregon, and he’s admitted to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court, appellate courts in the 6th, 7th, 9th, 10th and other districts. His practice has taken him into courts more than a dozen different states. He has testified on constitutional issues before Congress. Titus has also testified on state and federal constitutional issues before several state legislatures.
    Titus has written numerous articles, book chapters and constitutional studies and analyses. He is author of “God, Man, and Law: The Biblical Principles,” a text on American common law.
    Louis Fisher

    Constitutional scholar Louis Fisher
    Constitutional expert Louis Fisher is scholar in Residence at the Constitution Project. Previously he worked for four decades at the Library of Congress as senior specialist in separation of powers and specialist in constitutional law. During his service with CRS, he was research director of the House Iran-Contra Committee in 1987, writing major sections of the final report.
    Fisher is author of dozens of books specifically on constitutional law. He received his doctorate in political science from the New School for Social Research and has taught at Queens College, Georgetown University, American University, Catholic University, Indiana University, Johns Hopkins University, the College of William and Mary law school and the Catholic University law school. Fisher has been invited to testify before Congress about 50 times on constitutional issues.
    Fisher’s specialties include constitutional law, war powers, budget policy, executive-legislative relations and judicial-congressional relations.
    Fisher told WND he voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012, but he and doesn’t let partisan politics cloud his judgment when it comes to constitutional issues.
    “I had plenty of criticism toward George W. Bush and Richard Nixon,” he said. “I’ve been just as harsh about Bill Clinton and Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson and the rest. I’m not partisan, but I don’t flinch from saying what the evidence is.”
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    Also I would think that impeachment of a president isn't something you wake up one morning and do without preparation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    Also I would think that impeachment of a president isn't something you wake up one morning and do without preparation.
    Four years isnt enough? What are the allegations? Fisher, Titus, Fein.... are not members of the House. If allegations are true... THEN BRING UP CHARGES IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES!
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    If Obama should be impeached Dubya should have been tried and convicted of treason for sending thousands of soldiers to their death for a pointless war that hasn't worked. Everyone knows he lied and did it because Saddam and Dubya Dr had a vendetta.

    Obama is cleaning up years of a mess caused by Republicans AND Democrats. The sooner we realize this and get away from the 2 party system the sooner we can move towards a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilofox View Post
    Four years isnt enough? What are the allegations? Fisher, Titus, Fein.... are not members of the House. If allegations are true... THEN BRING UP CHARGES IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES!
    Fein? The same stooge of the extremist Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, and Brookings Institute who stated “The executive branch is a servant of Congress"?
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    Please read THIS POST again as it's been updated.

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    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    /Garbage Removal/
    At what level do you fulfill your slime quota?
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    So what you're saying is:


    “To be very blunt with you, we’re counting on all of you, the legitimate news media, to cover these discussions, because the truth is that times have changed,” Biden added, warning that people would continue to “misrepresent” the White House’s plans for gun control.
    Remember “speaking truth to power”? Those days are over. Now it’s time to speak whatever power tells you is the truth. And if you don’t, you’re not “legitimate.”

    What’s that? You don’t trust Joe Biden? But just look at him. He’s so friendly and nice. He wouldn’t lie to you. [Insert "malarkey," "fiddle-faddle," and other charmingly outdated slang here.]



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    If only this thread stood for anything more than generic, partisan hate. One can dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinadroid View Post
    If only this thread stood for anything more than generic, partisan hate. One can dream.
    So what you're saying is that generic hate comes in the form of people voicing their opinions on why President Obama deserves to be impeached due to the fact that many believe he has commited unconstitutional acts? I've seen so many posts in this thread from people like you that just say our debate is "pointless generic hate" By you making these comments it not only is a pointless act that pretty much everybody here could give a crap about, its just that you're firing up more people to think of more reasons on why the man should be tried. If you're going to debate, then debate with facts and your opinion on the matter. Not just to sit there and say "This is all partisan hate" And if you don't find the thread useful in any way then leave.......

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    Here is a recent story on the Fort Hood shooting that I was discussing earlier with another member.


    "Despite extensive evidence that Hasan was in communication with al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack, the military has denied the victims a Purple Heart and is treating the incident as "workplace violence" instead of "combat related" or terrorism."

    Al-Awlaki has since been killed in a U.S. drone attack in Yemen, in what was termed a major victory in the U.S. efforts against al Qaeda."
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinadroid View Post
    If only this thread stood for anything more than generic, partisan hate. One can dream.
    AND you haven't even made a single post in any non political forum here. Its called ANDROID central bro, yet you haven't even displayed an interest in the thing that binds all of us together here: technology. All you have used the account for is debate......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will1524 View Post
    AND you haven't even made a single post in any non political forum here. Its called ANDROID central bro, yet you haven't even displayed an interest in the thing that binds all of us together here: technology. All you have used the account for is debate......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will1524 View Post
    So what you're saying is that generic hate comes in the form of people voicing their opinions on why President Obama deserves to be impeached due to the fact that many believe he has commited unconstitutional acts?
    This sentence, by itself, clearly defines why this thread is merely a general purpose hate thread. It is not 'hate' to point out tO you and other misguided people that this President has not committed impeachable offenses. It is simply an inconvenient truth. And the truth does not change.

    And if you don't find the thread useful in any way then leave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    Here is a recent story on the Fort Hood shooting that I was discussing earlier with another member.


    "Despite extensive evidence that Hasan was in communication with al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack, the military has denied the victims a Purple Heart and is treating the incident as "workplace violence" instead of "combat related" or terrorism."

    Al-Awlaki has since been killed in a U.S. drone attack in Yemen, in what was termed a major victory in the U.S. efforts against al Qaeda."
    Workplace violence my *ss. They should just charge him with treason and put him in front of a firing squad.

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    Fort Hood was a clear terrorist attack.
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