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  1. Live2ride883's Avatar
    4 Constitutional experts weigh in on 12 actions that could be considered impeachable actions by not only the president, but his staff as well.
    Personally I am glad I read it, and I hope others that participate in this thread will read it as well. No matter which side your on.


    It's a good article with arguments for and against impeachment.

    The growing case for impeachment of Obama
    02-10-2013 08:45 PM
  2. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Here's what I dont get..... "The House of Representatives must first pass, by a simple majority of those present and voting, articles of impeachment, which constitute the formal allegation or allegations."

    The republicans have controlled the House during O's first term and now his 2nd.

    If the evidently "growing case" exists.... why are no charges being brought forth by the Republican Controlled House?

    Fortunately, the House Republicans are not Neo-Conservative Bloggers or Websites or the other partisan/conspiracy obsessed sources listed in this thread.

    He won again, get over it again.
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    02-10-2013 09:40 PM
  3. Live2ride883's Avatar
    Here is the list of experts from the page I linked earlier, honestly and this is no insult to you or anyone else but their credentials give their statements more weight than yours.

    Bruce Fein

    Constitutional scholar Bruce Fein
    Bruce Fein is the legal scholar who is best known for having drafted articles of impeachment against former President Bill Clinton for perjury after he lied under oath about having sexual relations with an intern.
    Fein also drafted articles of impeachment against former President George W. Bush and former Vice President **** Cheney. In 2011, he drew up formal articles of impeachment against President Obama for his use of military action against Libya without congressional authorization.
    Fein was a top Justice Department official under the Reagan administration. He graduated with honors from Harvard Law School in 1972. Fein clerked for a prestigious federal court, and has served in top positions in the Office of Legal Counsel and the Office of Legal Policy. He has served as visiting fellow for constitutional studies at the Heritage Foundation, adjunct scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and guest lecturer at the Brookings Institute.
    Fein specializes in constitutional and international law and is a frequent witness before Congress. He is chairman of the American Freedom Agenda, founder of Bruce Fein & Associates Inc. and The Lichfield Group and author of Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for our Constitution and Democracy.
    As for his political persuasion, Fein told WND, I criticized Nixon. I criticized Clinton. I criticized Bush and Cheney. I criticize Obama. I dont have any reluctance because I view myself as an American first.
    Herbert Titus

    Constitutional scholar Herbert Titus
    Herbert Titus, counsel to the law firm William J. Olson, previously taught constitutional law, common law and other subjects for 30 years at five different American Bar Association-approved law schools. From 1986 to 1993, he was the founding dean of the College of Law and Government at Regent University.
    And before that, he was a trial attorney and special assistant U.S. attorney with the Department of Justice.
    Titus degrees are from Harvard and the University of Oregon, and hes admitted to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court, appellate courts in the 6th, 7th, 9th, 10th and other districts. His practice has taken him into courts more than a dozen different states. He has testified on constitutional issues before Congress. Titus has also testified on state and federal constitutional issues before several state legislatures.
    Titus has written numerous articles, book chapters and constitutional studies and analyses. He is author of God, Man, and Law: The Biblical Principles, a text on American common law.
    Louis Fisher

    Constitutional scholar Louis Fisher
    Constitutional expert Louis Fisher is scholar in Residence at the Constitution Project. Previously he worked for four decades at the Library of Congress as senior specialist in separation of powers and specialist in constitutional law. During his service with CRS, he was research director of the House Iran-Contra Committee in 1987, writing major sections of the final report.
    Fisher is author of dozens of books specifically on constitutional law. He received his doctorate in political science from the New School for Social Research and has taught at Queens College, Georgetown University, American University, Catholic University, Indiana University, Johns Hopkins University, the College of William and Mary law school and the Catholic University law school. Fisher has been invited to testify before Congress about 50 times on constitutional issues.
    Fishers specialties include constitutional law, war powers, budget policy, executive-legislative relations and judicial-congressional relations.
    Fisher told WND he voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012, but he and doesnt let partisan politics cloud his judgment when it comes to constitutional issues.
    I had plenty of criticism toward George W. Bush and Richard Nixon, he said. Ive been just as harsh about Bill Clinton and Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson and the rest. Im not partisan, but I dont flinch from saying what the evidence is.
    02-11-2013 08:57 AM
  4. Live2ride883's Avatar
    Also I would think that impeachment of a president isn't something you wake up one morning and do without preparation.
    02-11-2013 08:59 AM
  5. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Also I would think that impeachment of a president isn't something you wake up one morning and do without preparation.
    Four years isnt enough? What are the allegations? Fisher, Titus, Fein.... are not members of the House. If allegations are true... THEN BRING UP CHARGES IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES!
    02-11-2013 10:57 AM
  6. nolittdroid's Avatar
    If Obama should be impeached Dubya should have been tried and convicted of treason for sending thousands of soldiers to their death for a pointless war that hasn't worked. Everyone knows he lied and did it because Saddam and Dubya Dr had a vendetta.

    Obama is cleaning up years of a mess caused by Republicans AND Democrats. The sooner we realize this and get away from the 2 party system the sooner we can move towards a solution.

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    02-11-2013 11:04 AM
  7. backbeat's Avatar
    Four years isnt enough? What are the allegations? Fisher, Titus, Fein.... are not members of the House. If allegations are true... THEN BRING UP CHARGES IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES!
    Fein? The same stooge of the extremist Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, and Brookings Institute who stated The executive branch is a servant of Congress"?
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    02-11-2013 11:06 AM
  8. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Please read THIS POST again as it's been updated.

    Thanks
    02-11-2013 10:25 PM
  9. Live2ride883's Avatar
    President Barack Obama has waived restrictions placed on the direct funding of the Palestinian Authority. If you remember, this is the group that is run by Hamas. Going further back in your memory, you will recall Hamas is the terrorist organization that has refused to acknowledge Israels right to exist. In fact, their charter calls for the destruction of Israel.

    Obama Approves Direct Funding For Hamas
    Hamas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Declare the Muslim Brotherhood A Terrorist Organization | Dickmorris.com

    The following governments have declared Hamas to be a TERRORIST organization.

    Israel, the United States, Canada, the European Union, and Japan.
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    This is how the Bush administration addressed funding for them.

    The previous occupant of the White House didnt like the idea of funding Hamas. So much so that he declared it would not happen until Hamas met certain requirements. Here is what President George W. Bush had to say about it in 2006.

    United States said it would not provide aid to an authority governed by Hamas until the group renounces violence, recognizes Israel and agrees to abide by existing agreements between Israel and the Palestinians.
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    Add this to the recent advanced weaponry supplied to Egypt, which is now under the control of the Muslim brotherhood and certainly deserves to be declared a terrorist organization and Israel is in for a rough time soon.
    02-11-2013 11:14 PM
  10. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Just a reminder. READ THIS THREAD.

    And yes, I'm going to post that as often as I like until we start seeing less reported posts from this section. It's that, or we start doing temp bans on members.
    02-12-2013 12:11 AM
  11. Live2ride883's Avatar
    Just a reminder. READ THIS THREAD.

    And yes, I'm going to post that as often as I like until we start seeing less reported posts from this section. It's that, or we start doing temp bans on members.
    No problem.
    02-12-2013 08:50 AM
  12. backbeat's Avatar
    Supplying a url which completely undermines the partisan lie misinformation contained within your title must come as a real bummer. Hamas is not involved in this Congressional appropriation.

    You're unaware that the Gaza Strip is controlled by Hamas, whereas the West Bank is controlled by the Palestinian Authority? Conflate much?

    Here's another source ..... A slightly more informed author who clearly delineates Hamas and the Palestinian Authority ... which reads: "In the daily demonstrations here of solidarity with Gaza, a mix of sympathy and anguish, there is something else: growing identification with the Islamist fighters of Hamas and derision for the Palestinian Authority, which Washington considers the only viable partner for peace with Israel."

    Hamas VS the Palestinian Authority

    Yet another ethically-bankrupt thread which crucifies Obama for precisely doing the morally correct thing.
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    02-12-2013 12:52 PM
  13. Live2ride883's Avatar
    02-12-2013 12:57 PM
  14. droidmyme's Avatar
    THIS is exactly the kind of thread that we need more of! THANK YOU for sharing this information and bringing the truth out.

    FACT: Obama is a bloodthirsty fiend who hates Israel.

    FACT: Obama funds Hamas to give US dollars for killing Israelis.

    FACT: Obama wants to destroy Israel and the Bill of Rights!

    And thank you for proving the point on the Bush administration. Do people really think Barack Obama can formulate smart policies? LOL! Why are we following all these new policies, heck the previous administration was good enough for ME!

    FACT: George W. Bush is smarter, and more capable, than President Obama.

    Personally I don't get it. Bush was an amazing, just a brilliant president. Most people think "He can't speak English properly" and therefore he's dumb or whatever the heck they say. Bunch of liberal sissies, I say.

    Lots of facts here, more people should be reading this and be aware of the TRUTH! Thank you for posting, and keep up the good work!


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    02-12-2013 12:58 PM
  15. Live2ride883's Avatar
    Fact GWB was a fighter jet pilot.

    Fact Obama was a failed community organizer.
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    02-12-2013 01:21 PM
  16. droidmyme's Avatar
    Fact GWB was a fighter jet pilot.

    Fact Obama was a failed community organizer.
    GWB could fly one heckuva F-16. He may look like a Texas bumpkin, but that's just a disguise he puts on. Behind his mild facade, there is a cold, calculating fighter jet ace.

    Most people don't know that about W.

    Optimus S HydroROM 1.1.1 (RIP)
    02-12-2013 01:36 PM
  17. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    GWB could fly one heckuva F-16. He may look like a Texas bumpkin, but that's just a disguise he puts on. Behind his mild facade, there is a cold, calculating fighter jet ace.

    Most people don't know that about W.

    Optimus S HydroROM 1.1.1 (RIP)
    He was in fact so calculating, he calculated that by joining the Texas Air National Guard he could duck out of Vietnam.
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    02-12-2013 03:38 PM
  18. backbeat's Avatar
    FACT: GWBush authorized the same waivers to directly fund the Palestinian Authority [$300M] in 2008.

    Bush Authorized Waivers for $300M in Palestinian Authority aid

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    02-12-2013 03:44 PM
  19. Live2ride883's Avatar
    He was in fact so calculating, he calculated that by joining the Texas Air National Guard he could duck out of Vietnam.

    He joined the air national guard and to my knowledge was never called to Vietnam, now where did Obama serve his military time at, what was his accomplishments while he was in the military?
    02-12-2013 03:44 PM
  20. Live2ride883's Avatar
    FACT: GWBush authorized the same waivers to directly fund the Palestinian Authority [$300M] in 2008.
    Your source?
    02-12-2013 03:46 PM
  21. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    He joined the air national guard and to my knowledge was never called to Vietnam, now where did Obama serve his military time at, what was his accomplishments while he was in the military?
    I grew up then (graduated HS in 1975).... it was common knowledge that joining the guard was a preemptive move to avoid getting drafted into the conflict.

    Obama's military service was the same as John Adams and Wilson's.
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    02-12-2013 03:56 PM
  22. Live2ride883's Avatar
    I grew up then (graduated HS in 1975).... it was common knowledge that joining the guard was a preemptive move to avoid getting drafted into the conflict.

    Obama's military service was the same as John Adams and Wilson's.
    Were there schooling issues as well that would have exempted him from going to Vietnam?

    While Clinton simply dodged the draft completly and may have took off for Canada. I'm not sure if he burned his draft card or not though.
    02-12-2013 04:06 PM
  23. Live2ride883's Avatar
    FACT: GWBush authorized the same waivers to directly fund the Palestinian Authority [$300M] in 2008.

    Bush Authorized Waivers for $300M in Palestinian Authority aid

    http://dealbreaker.com/_old/images/e...us-Package.jpg
    What page number?
    02-12-2013 04:13 PM
  24. backbeat's Avatar
    What page number?
    You are asking for favors? Go fish. Use the Search function within Adobe.
    02-12-2013 04:18 PM
  25. Live2ride883's Avatar
    I grew up then (graduated HS in 1975).... it was common knowledge that joining the guard was a preemptive move to avoid getting drafted into the conflict.

    Obama's military service was the same as John Adams and Wilson's.
    So it was none...

    30 presidents served in the military. 12 presidents did not serve.

    Those who did not serve were: John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, Grover Cleveland, William Taft, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, and Bill Clinton.

    Of the 30 who did serve in the military, 6 did not see action. They are as follows: James Madison, James Polk, Millard Filmore, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan (was not sent to combat due to bad eyesight), and George W. Bush.
    02-12-2013 04:20 PM
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