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  1. backbeat's Avatar
    Guns are made to be defensive or sporting weapons, when a person uses something in a way other than it's intended use. That person becomes responsible for that action.
    If intent is, indeed, 9/10 of the law, you will quickly discourage any further comparison between firearms and hammers. Think it through to its logical conclusion.
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    01-31-2013 06:33 AM
  2. metz65's Avatar
    ^this :thumbup:

    I own guns, I play black ops, and listen to heavy/death metal. None of this means I'm going to go kill anyone.

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    Amen. I own guns. In the early 80's I listened to Ozzy and Maiden (still do) and played dungeons and dragons, and believe it or not I have still not became a mass murdering satanist.

    I don't care what kind of phone you have, that's not how I judge someone's worth or intelligence.
    01-31-2013 06:38 AM
  3. rexxman's Avatar
    In a way it does answer the question about stopping the shooter.

    "After the gunman saw Nick he stopped shooting at innocent people and turned the gun on himself." Had Nick not been there do you think he would have stopped or kept on shooting. I believe at heart these criminals are all cowards and almost every one of them have proven it by taking their own lives before they could be captured.

    MSM is Main Stream Media.
    What you placed in quotes did not happen. Even Nick is unsure.

    I do not know what the perp had in his mind. But the shooting had stopped before Nick pulled his weapon. Nick subsequently hid in a store.

    Agreed, these shooters are cowards.

    Thanks for using "almost all" and defining MSM.

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    01-31-2013 07:44 AM
  4. backbeat's Avatar
    There are not 330 million gun owners in the USA.
    Correct. Those of legal age who own a firearm total approximately 65-66M.
    01-31-2013 08:12 AM
  5. Serial Fordicator's Avatar
    Correct. Those of legal age who own a firearm total approximately 65-66M.
    Apologies, i misread the article.
    I read 303000000 guns in us (govt and citizens from a site), not gun owners.

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    01-31-2013 08:15 AM
  6. Serial Fordicator's Avatar
    Indians are from India, I think you mean native Americans. Then founding father's were kind of awful.

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    A play on words doesn't mean anything. I'm not German American.

    Please explain why they were awful.

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    01-31-2013 08:24 AM
  7. backbeat's Avatar
    Apologies, i misread the article.
    I read 303000000 guns in us (govt and citizens from a site), not gun owners.
    This indicates that approximately 26% of the US adult population are firearms owners.
    01-31-2013 09:13 AM
  8. Live2ride883's Avatar
    So the Department of Homeland Security recommends shears against a shooter?

    Homeland Security has advice for confronting mass murders: scissors - NYPOST.com

    Post edited to reflect smiley suggested by Rexxman
    01-31-2013 10:11 AM
  9. rexxman's Avatar
    So the Department of Homeland Security recommends shears against a shooter?

    Homeland Security has advice for confronting mass murders: scissors - NYPOST.com
    Live2ride, I believe you are an honest gentleman but you are playing the same game here that the NY Post played; sensationalism.

    Few would be tempted to read this article if it had a more honest headline.

    I'm hoping you posted this in humor. If so, consider using a smiley emoticon.

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    01-31-2013 10:59 AM
  10. backbeat's Avatar
    Wrong. Weapons are designed to kill and p****es were designed to procreate. Man is born with a ******, man buys a gun. Guns require assembly and knowledge.
    What do you expect of Neanderthals who have stood in the way of the VAWA being re-authorized?
    01-31-2013 11:31 AM
  11. nrm5110's Avatar
    What do you expect of Neanderthals who have stood in the way of the VAWA being re-authorized?
    Neanderthals huh. So anybody who has a differing opinion lacks a similar level of intelligence. That's pretty bold from someone who pretends to know it all and thinks he could solve the worlds problems. Oh please great leader run for presidency and take this country by the horns, you know because you're so smart and all.:rolleyes:

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    01-31-2013 11:50 AM
  12. backbeat's Avatar
    Neanderthals huh. So anybody who has a differing opinion lacks a similar level of intelligence. That's pretty bold from someone who pretends to know it all and thinks he could solve the worlds problems. Oh please great leader run for presidency and take this country by the horns, you know because you're so smart and all.:rolleyes:
    If you've been one of the Neanderthals disallowing VAWA from coming up for a vote, I make no apologies. I have my suspicions that is not the case, however. Otherwise, I have no idea how you could take my statement personally.
    01-31-2013 12:01 PM
  13. Paul627g's Avatar
    Some of you may need to review this first before continuing to post...

    Please read before posting

    Thanks.
    01-31-2013 12:04 PM
  14. nrm5110's Avatar
    Some of you may need to review this first before continuing to post...

    Please read before posting

    Thanks.
    My bad his post was just too condescending.

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    01-31-2013 12:10 PM
  15. gollum18's Avatar
    Actually enforce states to send all records of any known mental health patients to be registered with the system. So when they go to buy a gun their name actually pops up and their not allowed to purchase them, instead of the broken system we have now. The only state that has a good mental health recording system ironically is Texas.

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    01-31-2013 01:02 PM
  16. gollum18's Avatar
    Correct. Those of legal age who own a firearm total approximately 65-66M.
    Yes but of those numbers you have some of them that are fanatics and feel the need to have 100+ guns for themselves. Some of them probably treat them better than their own children.

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    01-31-2013 01:03 PM
  17. Live2ride883's Avatar
    Yes but of those numbers you have some of them that are fanatics and feel the need to have 100+ guns for themselves. Some of them probably treat them better than their own children.

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    Throughout my life I have owned in excess of 400 different types of pistols, rifles, and shotguns. One of my first shotguns was a Winchester 1890 solid frame first model which has been in my family since it was new and it was "given" to me by my grandfather when I was 9-10 with the understanding that my dad would keep it for me until I was 16. My current prize pistol is an 1851 Colt Navy Revolver, I would never fire such a weapon and honestly I haven't even held it in my hands since I brought it home over 15 years ago. I think of it as a piece of American Heritage. I can only imagine the history of this weapon. I do know they were among the favorite handguns owned by civil war officers in both the north and south.

    ( I want to clarify that by "in my hands" I am referring to holding it without gloves on. The pistol has been regularly cleaned.)

    While the number of firearms I currently own really isn't important, what I decide to own and purchase as far as weapons go isn't up for someone else to determine weather or not I am a fanatic.
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    01-31-2013 01:45 PM
  18. metz65's Avatar
    I just hope no more evil guns jump of off a table or out of a drawer and shoot somebody.

    Let us have your (so called) assault rifles. Then when Johnny wacko kills someone with a pistol we will need those too. Shotguns nope, sorry, they also like to hide behind trees then jump out and shoot somebody.

    Let's trust the government that this gun grab is for our own good, our government has nothing but honest intentions for it's citizens they would never test syphilis on poor African Americans. They only want to protect us. The more dependant on the government the more docile the brainwashed sheep become.

    We should willingly trust the government and turn over our guns, nothing bad will happen. We can turn them in then we can All bury our hearts at wounded knee.

    I don't care what kind of phone you have, that's not how I judge someone's worth or intelligence.
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    01-31-2013 02:59 PM
  19. Live2ride883's Avatar
    I am not certain what this means for her Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 but I cannot deny that I am glad to see that more level heads won out.


    Senate Judiciary chair rejects Dianne Feinstein
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    01-31-2013 03:02 PM
  20. gollum18's Avatar
    The mere notion that humans need guns to survive as a species is hogwash. All they do is create problems for the world to digest. We need to rise above our ignorance and get with the times. There are far more pressing concerns to attended to then shooting each other, such as how will we survive with no resources in the next 20-25 yrs or so if we continue to use them at the rate we do

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    01-31-2013 03:16 PM
  21. gollum18's Avatar
    I just hope no more evil guns jump of off a table or out of a drawer and shoot somebody.

    Let us have your (so called) assault rifles. Then when Johnny wacko kills someone with a pistol we will need those too. Shotguns nope, sorry, they also like to hide behind trees then jump out and shoot somebody.

    Let's trust the government that this gun grab is for our own good, our government has nothing but honest intentions for it's citizens they would never test syphilis on poor African Americans. They only want to protect us. The more dependant on the government the more docile the brainwashed sheep become.

    We should willingly trust the government and turn over our guns, nothing bad will happen. We can turn them in then we can All bury our hearts at wounded knee.

    I don't care what kind of phone you have, that's not how I judge someone's worth or intelligence.
    Try telling that to Ted "paranoid" Nugent

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    01-31-2013 03:17 PM
  22. gollum18's Avatar
    Should we pass a law banning smart phones because people kill other people while texting and driving? Should we mandate GPS be active and disable the screen on a smart phone when traveling faster than a walking speed? We do not do these things because it would infringe on the public at large or the passengers while in transit. We all know that lives would be saved by doing them but we still do not.
    You do not take away or limit the best tool of individual self defense because some people choose to do wrong. On top of it all it does not work in reducing murders!
    Deaths by mass murder are reduced when the murderer is stopped by someone with a gun. Let those trained and licensed to carry a weapon do so everywhere. President Obama should push to end all gun free zones.
    Actually its illegal to text/talk and drive at the same time in the us already. That's just called stupidity if you do it anyway. Whoever it is obviously doesn't care about your safety if they are putting you at risk because whatever they wanted to tell you couldn't wait till you weren't driving/ were home.

    Easy fix turn your phone off while your driving - Its not that hard.

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    01-31-2013 03:24 PM
  23. backbeat's Avatar
    Let's trust the government that this gun grab ...

    We should willingly trust the government and turn over our guns
    Interesting that you point out the fly in your logic willingly. Since no one has made such a proposition ... and all ...
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    01-31-2013 03:51 PM
  24. Live2ride883's Avatar
    Try telling that to Ted "paranoid" Nugent

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    I think Ted "prepared" Nugent is a better description.
    01-31-2013 04:11 PM
  25. Bratigan's Avatar
    As a supporter of the Second Amendment, I also support all of the amendments as they were added legally to the constitution. I don't like the constitution
    being attacked at all, especially if its being attacked by people who take an oath to uphold its tenets. It was conceived by people who were much more contemplative than
    we are today and far less reactive. I site Mario Cuomo's son Andrew and his knee jerk reaction in New York State. Kilofox is correct that we should all protect and preserve
    the constitution if that is in fact his message. I certainly do and I also am patient enough to go through the proper procedures to change it if the people will it.
    What we have is very special and very much misunderstood because the schools don't teach its significance in the classroom. In the end what will be will be.
    02-01-2013 09:53 AM
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