Welcome to the Android Central Forums Create Your Account or Ask a Question Answers in 5 minutes - no registration required!
Page 48 of 185 FirstFirst ... 45464748495051 ... LastLast
Results 1,176 to 1,200 of 4617
Like Tree2067Likes
  1. #1176  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinadroid View Post
    Again .... Says who?
    I apologize, I made a flippant remark and have no data to back my statement up.

    You could learn from that
    Thanked by:
  2. #1177  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingIsTrue View Post
    I completely agree, and I don't see anything wrong with the AR-15. I'm just not sure it's hand's down the best option. There are many alternatives that for some will be much more effective at defense. I'm slightly offended about where you took the tomahawk comment, but you have to realize that Joe Biden is just giving a suggestion, not mandating that everyone buy shotguns. I get the context and that he doesn't want "assault weapons", but really it's not up to him so I don't really care what he wants.
    I'm glad you're proficient with that tomahawk. I however suck at it so I'm sticking to what he said lol. (Live2ride883)
    Darth Spock likes this.
  3. #1178  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingIsTrue View Post
    I completely agree, and I don't see anything wrong with the AR-15. I'm just not sure it's hand's down the best option. There are many alternatives that for some will be much more effective at defense. I'm slightly offended about where you took the tomahawk comment, but you have to realize that Joe Biden is just giving a suggestion, not mandating that everyone buy shotguns. I get the context and that he doesn't want "assault weapons", but really it's not up to him so I don't really care what he wants.
    It was not my intention to offend you or anyone else with my tomahawk comment. Personally I do not think anything other than a gun is sufficient for home defense. Which one I grab at a particular time is not so much a matter of choice for me but relies more on where I might happen to be at that time. I have my "toy" room downstairs where I have my collectible weapons, along with a full size gun safe there are also 2 other full size safes in other areas of the house.

    I also have several smaller safes hidden that hold 1 or 2 handguns and a few loaded magazines.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingIsTrue View Post
    I completely agree, and I don't see anything wrong with the AR-15. I'm just not sure it's hand's down the best option. There are many alternatives that for some will be much more effective at defense. I'm slightly offended about where you took the tomahawk comment, but you have to realize that Joe Biden is just giving a suggestion, not mandating that everyone buy shotguns. I get the context and that he doesn't want "assault weapons", but really it's not up to him so I don't really care what he wants.
    It was not my intention to offend you or anyone else with my tomahawk comment. Personally I do not think anything other than a gun is sufficient for home defense. Which one I grab at a particular time is not so much a matter of choice for me but relies more on where I might happen to be at that time. I have my "toy" room downstairs where I have my collectible weapons, along with a full size gun safe there are also 2 other full size safes in other areas of the house.

    I also have several smaller safes hidden that hold 1 or 2 handguns and a few loaded magazines.
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
  4. #1179  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingIsTrue View Post
    I completely agree, and I don't see anything wrong with the AR-15. I'm just not sure it's hand's down the best option. There are many alternatives that for some will be much more effective at defense. I'm slightly offended about where you took the tomahawk comment, but you have to realize that Joe Biden is just giving a suggestion, not mandating that everyone buy shotguns. I get the context and that he doesn't want "assault weapons", but really it's not up to him so I don't really care what he wants.
    When the VP makes a suggestion it can and often does impact the opinions of not only average citizens who may be on the fence about a certain issue, also those suggestions can end up as part of a policy.
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
    Darth Spock likes this.
  5. #1180  
    Darth Spock's Avatar
    Assassin Droid

    Posts
    7,429 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,475 Global Posts
    ROM
    Assassin 'Droid

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    It was not my intention to offend you or anyone else with my tomahawk comment. Personally I do not think anything other than a gun is sufficient for home defense. Which one I grab at a particular time is not so much a matter of choice for me but relies more on where I might happen to be at that time. I have my "toy" room downstairs where I have my collectible weapons, along with a full size gun safe there are also 2 other full size safes in other areas of the house.

    I also have several smaller safes hidden that hold 1 or 2 handguns and a few loaded magazines.

    - - - Updated - - -



    It was not my intention to offend you or anyone else with my tomahawk comment. Personally I do not think anything other than a gun is sufficient for home defense. Which one I grab at a particular time is not so much a matter of choice for me but relies more on where I might happen to be at that time. I have my "toy" room downstairs where I have my collectible weapons, along with a full size gun safe there are also 2 other full size safes in other areas of the house.

    I also have several smaller safes hidden that hold 1 or 2 handguns and a few loaded magazines.
    I think we both agree that citizens should be free to protect their homes and families with whatever means they feel is best for their situation. In my situation, I have a 3 year old and a baby and so I won't leave any weapons unlocked because I don't want an accidental injury. That also prevents me from considering most firearms as my most safe option, because I don't want to worry about accidentally firing through a wall she's sleeping behind. For me and my training level in unarmed, close quarter and small arms weapons, it's just as effective for me to be creative with household items as it is to not pull a trigger because of the fear of ricochet, crossfire, etc.

    As a martial arts instructor I was a strong proponent of people being able to adapt to their situation and use their environment to their benefit, as well as being prepared. I think both of our approaches are equally as valid and that both would be completely invalid were one to try to force the other to their way of doing things. I do own firearms, but I do not consider them to be realistic for most defense situations in my home; that being said, it wouldn't stop me from using them if they became the best option in the moment.
    Live2ride883 and Markster1 like this.
  6. #1181  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingIsTrue View Post
    I think we both agree that citizens should be free to protect their homes and families with whatever means they feel is best for their situation. In my situation, I have a 3 year old and a baby and so I won't leave any weapons unlocked because I don't want an accidental injury. That also prevents me from considering most firearms as my most safe option, because I don't want to worry about accidentally firing through a wall she's sleeping behind. For me and my training level in unarmed, close quarter and small arms weapons, it's just as effective for me to be creative with household items as it is to not pull a trigger because of the fear of ricochet, crossfire, etc.

    As a martial arts instructor I was a strong proponent of people being able to adapt to their situation and use their environment to their benefit, as well as being prepared. I think both of our approaches are equally as valid and that both would be completely invalid were one to try to force the other to their way of doing things. I do own firearms, but I do not consider them to be realistic for most defense situations in my home; that being said, it wouldn't stop me from using them if they became the best option in the moment.
    As your children grow I am certain you will teach them not only to defend themselves, but honor, respect, compassion and self reliance. Not to be taken the wrong way but I am very proud of my 3 kids, I have one that is on the Presidents list at a major art school, and the 2 youngest do very good in school, are respectful to their teaches and other adults. Even though my daughter is only 11 years old she can handle herself with most of the weapons that I own. She doesn't like the recoil of the shotgun, I have an ar-15 with an adjustable stock that is set up for her to use, so for all intent and purpose it is hers. Every time we go to the range or farm that's what she uses, she cleans it regularly and is responsible with It at all times.
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
  7. #1182  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinadroid View Post
    once again-
    The police chief is not the head/lead law enforcement officer in the county. That is the sheriff, simply because the sheriff is answerable to the people/voters. The sheriff swears an oath to uphold the constitution, AFAIK the police chief doesn't.
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
  8. #1183  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    The police chief is not the head/lead law enforcement officer in the county. That is the sheriff, simply because the sheriff is answerable to the people/voters. The sheriff swears an oath to uphold the constitution, AFAIK the police chief doesn't.
    Also, a chief of police is quite often a political appointee and not a professional LEO. It's like comparing the Sec. of Defense to a Lieutenant General.
  9. #1184  
    backbeat's Avatar
    Banned

    Posts
    30 Posts
    Global Posts
    138 Global Posts

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    once again-
    The police chief is not the head/lead law enforcement officer in the county. That is the sheriff, simply because the sheriff is answerable to the people/voters. The sheriff swears an oath to uphold the constitution, AFAIK the police chief doesn't.
    You have no comment on the drastic 66% reduction in assault weapons associated with Miami-Dade crime during the previous assault weapons ban. Got it.
  10. #1185  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    I think that tragedies like Sandy Hook should never be allowed to happen again.
    What everyone is this thread is ignoring is that it was not a gun that killed those children, it was a person with a severe mental problem. He could just have easily used a home made bomb.

    We need to stop thinking about the tools they use, and spend our energy on identifying and getting the potentially violent mentally ill people off the streets. Whether they are illegally obtaining guns, corvettes, or fertilizer, they are the killers.

    As far as the OP goes ... Joe Biden is not qualified to give out advice on firearms usage, and I am not qualified to advise a brain surgeon on what to cut. But I, at least, admit it.
    Markster1 likes this.
  11. #1186  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Markster1 View Post
    The major difference and the one people who wish to ban the AR15 fail to distinguish is that, military versions have the ability to fire more than one bullet with one press of the trigger.

    Civilian versions like every other gun civilians can purchase legally can only fire one bullet with one press of the trigger.

    Functionally, a major difference!
    The *vast majority* of M4 rifles fielded by all branches of the military are semiautomatic only. The select fire versions (capable of fully automatic fire) are typically reserved for special operations forces only. The reasons for this are numerous and outside the scope of this conversation, but a little Googling should turn 'em up pretty quickly. That major functional difference you note simply doesn't exist on any meaningful scale.
  12. #1187  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherBill View Post
    What everyone is this thread is ignoring is that it was not a gun that killed those children, it was a person with a severe mental problem. He could just have easily used a home made bomb.
    He could've used a bomb, but he didn't. In regards to your ridiculous and fantastic statement, if he didn't use a gun, an assault rifle, to kill those children, what did he use?

    Making general statements about what "everyone" is ignoring, when you look solely at one post for context is symptomatic of being delusional and irrational.

    Sent from my LS670 using Android Central Forums
  13. #1188  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    OK so I am ridiculous, delusional, and irrational according to you.
    Carlolinadroid says I am a chickenhawk and a flying monkey.

    I have not attacked either of you, rather I have posted some reasonable statements and get insulted. Why not argue the statement rather than attack the person? You don't know me, you do not know who or what I am.

    How ... mature.
  14. #1189  
    Darth Spock's Avatar
    Assassin Droid

    Posts
    7,429 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,475 Global Posts
    ROM
    Assassin 'Droid

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    So we're not talking about home defense anymore? We've covered the overall debate pretty heavily in
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/pol...ml#post2588724

    And not to beat a dead horse, but 2nd time for both of these statements:

    Guys, you've gotta turn off fox news, msnbc, etc, etc... i can see your mouth moving, but all i hear is their words. if i gave a damn what they were going to lie about today, i'd watch them myself; i have a dvr, and if that's all you have to say, i don't need you because the dvr is slimmer and fits on my shelf better than you ever will. i want to know what you think.

    Message to freethinkers:

    Right, we're fighting against an entire generation of people who can't think past talking points and sound bytes.

    I't s fair to ask them, "Do you really believe the trash your side is piling on or just wish it were true?" Liberals and Conservatives, Democrats and Republicans... stop the "group think" and use your own brain. It's amazing how different your thoughts are when they're yours, not what was spoon fed to you by people who depend upon your ignorance for their own gain. They want to hurt you, yet you worship them.

    We are individuals and we're all smarter than this. Nothing is true just because someone says it is, especially when they have an observable gain in power each time their statement is believed.
    Markster1 likes this.
  15. #1190  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherBill View Post
    OK so I am ridiculous, delusional, and irrational according to you.
    Carlolinadroid says I am a chickenhawk and a flying monkey.

    I have not attacked either of you, rather I have posted some reasonable statements and get insulted. Why not argue the statement rather than attack the person? You don't know me, you do not know who or what I am.

    How ... mature.
    Correction: I didn't necessarily label you ridiculous, fantastic, delusional and irrational. I merely said that your statements were symptomatic of someone who was.

    Sent from my LS670 using Android Central Forums
  16. #1191  
    Darth Spock's Avatar
    Assassin Droid

    Posts
    7,429 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,475 Global Posts
    ROM
    Assassin 'Droid

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    Correction: I didn't necessarily label you ridiculous, fantastic, delusional and irrational. I merely said that your statements were symptomatic of someone who was.

    Sent from my LS670 using Android Central Forums
    There can be multiple reasons, some very well intentioned, for defending completely false statements.

    Wizard's First Rule: (Terry Goodkind)
    "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."

    Nothing is True:
    "It is an observation of the nature of reality. To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic."
  17. #1192  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    Correction: I didn't necessarily label you ridiculous, fantastic, delusional and irrational. I merely said that your statements were symptomatic of someone who was.
    Sorry, I won't accept that as an apology for a personal insult.

    Sit here and argue with yourself. I will not lower myself to your level and you won't talk above it.

    Goodbye.
  18. #1193  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherBill View Post
    Sorry, I won't accept that as an apology for a personal insult.

    Sit here and argue with yourself. I will not lower myself to your level and you won't talk above it.

    Goodbye.
    I'm sorry if you took my comment as an insult, and I apologize for that, it wasn't intended that way.

    Sent from my LS670 using Android Central Forums
  19. #1194  
    rexxman's Avatar

    Posts
    196 Posts
    Global Posts
    208 Global Posts

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Markster1 View Post
    Hey if you don't ban the guns, I won't ban your mouth, fair enough?
    Fair enough? Not even close.

    Absolutely rude and completely beyond the pale.

    Shame on you.

    Blue 32gb Galaxy S3
  20. #1195  
    psychoken's Avatar

    Posts
    4 Posts
    Global Posts
    3 Global Posts

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    why do you guys want to own guns so much? So you can feel safer? Or just so for the sake of freedom of choices?
  21. #1196  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinadroid View Post
    You have no comment on the drastic 66% reduction in assault weapons associated with Miami-Dade crime during the previous assault weapons ban. Got it.
    Nope, none at all. Not when the mass shooting at Columbine happened during the previous assault weapons ban and the most recent school shooting at Sandy Hook is what all this knee jerk legislation is in response to..

    Please show me proof that some of the toughest gun laws in the nation have made NYC, or Chicago any safer?
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
  22. #1197  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Here is a recent proposed gun control law from Washington state. After reading this just maybe CD, droidmemy and a few others will understand exactly why those of us that enjoy exercising our second amendment rights feel that they are being taken away, and we are being made into criminals.


    Here is the new definition of assault weapon in this proposal: "The bill, S.B. 5737, proposes “banning the sale of assault weapons.” According to the legislation, an “assault weapon” is any semiautomatic pistol, pump-action rifle or shotgun that can accept a detachable magazine, with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. Any magazine that accepts over 10 rounds itself will also be banned."

    Wash. state bill would make almost all gun owners criminals « The Free Patriot
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
    Darth Spock likes this.
  23. #1198  
    Darth Spock's Avatar
    Assassin Droid

    Posts
    7,429 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,475 Global Posts
    ROM
    Assassin 'Droid

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    Here is a recent proposed gun control law from Washington state. After reading this just maybe CD, droidmemy and a few others will understand exactly why those of us that enjoy exercising our second amendment rights feel that they are being taken away, and we are being made into criminals.


    Here is the new definition of assault weapon in this proposal: "The bill, S.B. 5737, proposes “banning the sale of assault weapons.” According to the legislation, an “assault weapon” is any semiautomatic pistol, pump-action rifle or shotgun that can accept a detachable magazine, with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. Any magazine that accepts over 10 rounds itself will also be banned."

    Wash. state bill would make almost all gun owners criminals « The Free Patriot
    There is nothing about confiscation or turn-ins, so nothing makes anyone a criminal to continue to own preexisting weapons. This only prohibits the future sales, which I believe to be legal. There is a huge issue with the searches, and the safe storage thing has already been addressed by the SCOTUS as unconstitutional. Seriously doubt this passes, but if it does it will of course be challenged. I seriously doubt they even vote on this law, it's just a proposal and every state has ridiculous legislation proposed all year long, but hopefully this follows the trend of not being seriously considered. Unconstitutional law due to violation of 4th and 14th amendments, and depending on interpretation, possible 2nd amendment rights.
    Thanked by:
  24. #1199  
    backbeat's Avatar
    Banned

    Posts
    30 Posts
    Global Posts
    138 Global Posts

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingIsTrue View Post
    There is nothing about confiscation or turn-ins, so nothing makes anyone a criminal to continue to own preexisting weapons. This only prohibits the future sales, which I believe to be legal. There is a huge issue with the searches, and the safe storage thing has already been addressed by the SCOTUS as unconstitutional. Seriously doubt this passes, but if it does it will of course be challenged. I seriously doubt they even vote on this law, it's just a proposal and every state has ridiculous legislation proposed all year long, but hopefully this follows the trend of not being seriously considered. Unconstitutional law due to violation of 4th and 14th amendments, and depending on interpretation, possible 2nd amendment rights.
    And you can bet that adequate legal counsel has green-lighted these proposals. This is the State regulating, and this proposal is very much like that of other States. It's happening due to cause. I'm sick of the twisted, deceitful statements of those fearfully clinging to the only refuge they know. A lethal weapon.
    Darth Spock likes this.
  25. #1200  

    Default Re: Joe Biden tips for self-defense: get a shotgun

    And you should be careful what you wish for. Here is more proof that they should go after the PEOPLE and not the WEAPON. People will find a way...now I guess 3d printers will be illegal.



    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Android Central Forums
Page 48 of 185 FirstFirst ... 45464748495051 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Larva Cartoon - FREE and FUNNY Application
    By liontyping in forum Android Apps
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 11-21-2014, 12:03 PM
  2. Replies: 15
    Last Post: 10-25-2013, 08:33 AM
  3. POI information and Gallery
    By robjulo in forum Samsung Galaxy S4
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-24-2013, 12:00 PM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-24-2013, 05:28 AM

Posting Permissions