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    What if the whole Planet was comprised of just ONE country, worldwide?

    Would this have any chance of 'working'?

    Think,

    One currency...

    No armies...

    No land-grabs (because it would already be a part of the country)...

    No militarized weapons...



    Would the world be any worse-off than it is right now?

    I think not.




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    Would there be religion? Would there be capitalism, like there is now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    Would there be religion? Would there be capitalism, like there is now?
    I actually started to write 'one religion', but then i backspaced out of that because i figured it wouldn't be a free society then. But... as we all well-know... religion causes the majority of mayhem amongst humankind, so.....

    I don't know.

    Don't know about capitalism either, I'm assuming there should be, but that doesn't have to be 'written in stone'.

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    Star Trek?

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    No, lol.

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    I'll tell ya, if you have people running around thinking that Ted Cruz is the 2nd coming of Jesus, Michele Bachmann is the new Virgin Mary and the Koch Brothers financing it, it's bound to fail.
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    People will always want what they don't have, someone will always want to control someone else, so I think it wouldn't really matter. It's the nature of the beast that is the problem, people.

    I would like to think it's possible, but I seriously doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msndrstood View Post
    People will always want what they don't have, someone will always want to control someone else, so I think it wouldn't really matter. It's the nature of the beast that is the problem, people.

    I would like to think it's possible, but I seriously doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by llamabreath View Post
    I actually started to write 'one religion', but then i backspaced out of that because i figured it wouldn't be a free society then. But... as we all well-know... religion causes the majority of mayhem amongst humankind, so.....

    I don't know.

    Don't know about capitalism either, I'm assuming there should be, but that doesn't have to be 'written in stone'.

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    I somehow don't think that various religions will fill your "no armies" square. While they might not be officially labeled an "army," I am sure that they will have something to oppose other religions like what is happening now.
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    Star Trek?
    This is a good answer. Star Trek has a history of trying to show humanity at its best. It also doesn't try to sugarcoat the dark side of history. (For example, the episode "The High Ground" mentioned the fictional Irish Unification of 2024, where terrorism was used successfully to bring about political change.)

    I'm not saying that everything is perfect, but in the future (as envisioned in Star Trek), people have learned to settle their differences in more constructive ways. Given enough time, I think we can achieve this as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msndrstood View Post
    People will always want what they don't have, someone will always want to control someone else, so I think it wouldn't really matter. It's the nature of the beast that is the problem, people.

    I would like to think it's possible, but I seriously doubt it.

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    But then the question: Who/what governs the people. There would be no need for a figure head because there would be no one else for them communicate and reason with. So how are the leaders chosen and who holds them accountable?

    Also, Would there not be states under this umbrella government? There would have to be lower divisions, which in practice would be more or less "countries".


    This would go one of 2 ways:
    1. Straight unadulterated Communism. A few dictate the many, and a person born into a "class" has 0 chance of ever leaving that class.
    2. It is basically the same as now, only difference is that there is a higher court/governance that would preside over state to state issues instead of the typical war/diplomacy tactics. This higher government would of course probably be extremely susceptible to corruption and biases.

    If this ever happened, I would suspect 1 would be the much more likely scenario.
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    I guess no need for the second amendment as their is no extreme government :P
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    I guess no need for the second amendment as their is no extreme government :P
    Touché.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairclough View Post
    I guess no need for the second amendment as their is no extreme government :P
    This is the most extreme version government. Only one. No one to keep it in check. No competition to it. No threat.

    If this ever happened, weapons would probably only be used by said government to oppress the ppl of the world. The people's rights to have them for protection would be long gone more than likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoYankees44 View Post
    This is the most extreme version government. Only one. No one to keep it in check. No competition to it. No threat.

    If this ever happened, weapons would probably only be used by said government to oppress the ppl of the world. The people's rights to have them for protection would be long gone more than likely.
    That is precisely the case. Anyone who disagrees with the Second Amendment is an extremist themselves, as it is my right as an American Citizen to have a gun.
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    Well lets not debate it but the key word it the act is militia (as in to prevent states over throwing the gov) thus it would be redudant and I think if the world was 1 country it wouldn't be America. Just saying there are 6 billion in the world as it won't be named after a country with 320million. If you had a universal language that would be a good start and that would be able to ease the working out.

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    I'm still trying to figure out if the world would be worse-off or better-off.

    I really don't think it would be sustainable (for the world to be one country), because there are always people that want more (land, money, power etc etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by llamabreath View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out if the world would be worse-off or better-off.

    I really don't think it would be sustainable (for the world to be one country), because there are always people that want more (land, money, power etc etc).
    So, the problem isn't the fact that there is more than one country in the world. The problem is human nature. Wouldn't you agree?
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    Agree.

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    Yep. Agree.



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    Quote Originally Posted by llamabreath View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out if the world would be worse-off or better-off.

    I really don't think it would be sustainable (for the world to be one country), because there are always people that want more (land, money, power etc etc).

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    That's a given. Greed and power fuel the evils of the world. "One world" would have to ensure that everyone had an equal share and that share cannot be increased or decreased. In today’s world we have a bad name for that – Communism [or the idea of it]. The peoples of the world would have to go through a major shift in thinking, awareness and respect for their fellow man in order to bring about such a change. We are still too close to our animal nature for that to happen.
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    Aliens. Aliens would do it. Maybe.

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    Lol, watch out for the lizard people. They're already here according to conspiracy theorists.

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