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  1. Scott7217's Avatar
    If this pulls us into war, then I would call them traitors.
    In related news, 367 bipartisan members of the US House of Representatives sent an open letter to President Obama.

    CNN -- 367 House lawmakers warn Obama on Iran (article link)

    Excerpt:

    A veto-proof, bipartisan majority of House lawmakers have signed an open letter to President Barack Obama warning him that any nuclear deal with Iran will effectively require congressional approval for implementation.

    A group of bipartisan senators have penned a bill mandating that any deal be reviewed and approved by Congress, but the House letter notes that lawmakers have another way to halt an agreement — by refusing to roll back sanctions.

    "Should an agreement with Iran be reached, permanent sanctions relief from congressionally-mandated sanctions would require new legislation. In reviewing such an agreement, Congress must be convinced that its terms foreclose any pathway to a bomb, and only then will Congress be able to consider permanent sanctions relief," they write.
    03-25-2015 08:56 PM
  2. vinnie_boombhats's Avatar
    03-25-2015 09:01 PM
  3. A895's Avatar
    In related news, 367 bipartisan members of the US House of Representatives sent an open letter to President Obama.

    CNN -- 367 House lawmakers warn Obama on Iran (article link)

    Excerpt:

    A veto-proof, bipartisan majority of House lawmakers have signed an open letter to President Barack Obama warning him that any nuclear deal with Iran will effectively require congressional approval for implementation.

    A group of bipartisan senators have penned a bill mandating that any deal be reviewed and approved by Congress, but the House letter notes that lawmakers have another way to halt an agreement — by refusing to roll back sanctions.

    "Should an agreement with Iran be reached, permanent sanctions relief from congressionally-mandated sanctions would require new legislation. In reviewing such an agreement, Congress must be convinced that its terms foreclose any pathway to a bomb, and only then will Congress be able to consider permanent sanctions relief," they write.
    Why are they doing this? What the hell is their problem?

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    03-25-2015 09:17 PM
  4. Scott7217's Avatar
    Why are they doing this?
    The actual text of the letter Congress sent to the White House is available online. The main portion is about 2 pages, then there's approximately 31 pages of signatures.

    The letter ends with the following statement:

    "Resolving the nuclear crisis with Iran remains of grave importance to our nation's security. As the Administration continues to negotiate with Iran, we are prepared to evaluate any agreement to determine its long-term impact on the United States and its allies. We remain hopeful that a diplomatic solution preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon may yet be reached, and we want to work with you to assure such a result."

    (33-Page PDF Link)
    03-25-2015 10:03 PM
  5. UpTheDumper's Avatar
    I feel like I should be the next Sam Adams after watching the history channels special recently..

    Bumbling idiots.

    Posted from the commode, thanks to Samsung Galaxy S5a.
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    03-25-2015 10:07 PM
  6. A895's Avatar
    The actual text of the letter Congress sent to the White House is available online. The main portion is about 2 pages, then there's approximately 31 pages of signatures.

    The letter ends with the following statement:

    "Resolving the nuclear crisis with Iran remains of grave importance to our nation's security. As the Administration continues to negotiate with Iran, we are prepared to evaluate any agreement to determine its long-term impact on the United States and its allies. We remain hopeful that a diplomatic solution preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon may yet be reached, and we want to work with you to assure such a result."

    (33-Page PDF Link)
    How do they plan to work with the president yet they continue to condescend and undermine him? BS.

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    03-25-2015 11:07 PM
  7. anon8126715's Avatar
    How do they plan to work with the president yet they continue to condescend and undermine him? BS.

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    They don't plan on it. Hopefully I'll be around when Hollywood decides to make a movie about the first black President in US history. I can't wait to see who they cast for Bohner and I hope it's someone that can cry on demand. A lot of these clowns deserve the picture that Hollywood is going to paint them in come 20-30 years from now. Considering that a lot of firsts are painted in a heroic light (aptly deserving IMO, but that can be debated), and the antagonists are painted as the ignorant bigot relics that they are (The Jackie Robinson movie comes to mind), a good majority of these GOP idiots are going to leave quite the legacy. I figure by the time the story is told through the eyes of Hollywood, a lot of the GOP is going to look like the Dixiecrats looked in the Lincoln movie that came out a few years ago. I'd personally love to send an email to each of these members of congress and congratulate them on being the perfect bumbling racist antagonists that will be judged by our more progressive society.

    And for anyone that wants to scream, "But they're not racist, they hate socialist Muslims!", back when Lincoln was President, there were those that thought owning slaves was moral and just. History wasn't on their side, nor will it be on your side.
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    03-26-2015 12:26 AM
  8. vinnie_boombhats's Avatar
    I am surprised that people are surprised by the actions of politicians. In their defense though, the vast majority of them, if not all of them, suffer from a debilitating medical condition, rectal cranial inversion . It's a serious dilemma folks, one that should not be taken lightly.
    03-26-2015 10:45 AM
  9. Scott7217's Avatar
    How do they plan to work with the president yet they continue to condescend and undermine him?
    That's still up in the air. The key difference now is that the 367 House members that signed the latest letter to Obama includes members from both parties.

    For example, Eliot Engel (New York) and Steny Hoyer (Maryland) are Democrats who signed the letter.

    In any case, Congress always had the authority to ratify treaties, so anything Obama would negotiate with Iran would have to go before Congress no matter what.
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    03-26-2015 06:26 PM
  10. cdmjlt369's Avatar
    It's been a long time since I've seen a president and Congress work together on any matter. Truth is most of them don't care about any of us, just showing up the other party. Now, I will say this about Israel. They are doing what that have to to survive. Their country is locked between a bunch of countries who's goal is the destruction of the Jewish people.
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    04-18-2015 10:09 AM
  11. Scott7217's Avatar
    Now, I will say this about Israel. They are doing what that have to to survive. Their country is locked between a bunch of countries who's goal is the destruction of the Jewish people.
    That is very true. Criticizing Israel is easy when the critics don't live under constant threat, unlike the average Israeli citizen.

    If Israel believes Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons, it will strike, no matter what anyone says.
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    04-23-2015 04:23 PM
  12. Scott7217's Avatar
    They don't plan on it.
    So, what is your view on the new bill for Iran?

    CNN -- House sends Iran nuclear deal bill to Obama (article link)

    The bill allows Congress to review any deals with Iran. In the House, the bill passed 400-25. In the Senate, it passed 98-1.

    If Obama vetoes the bill, the Democrats and Republicans have enough votes to override his veto.
    05-21-2015 02:27 PM
  13. anon8126715's Avatar
    So, what is your view on the new bill for Iran?

    CNN -- House sends Iran nuclear deal bill to Obama (article link)

    The bill allows Congress to review any deals with Iran. In the House, the bill passed 400-25. In the Senate, it passed 98-1.

    If Obama vetoes the bill, the Democrats and Republicans have enough votes to override his veto.
    I personally don't like the idea of giving members of the house or congress the keys. They've already proved that they can't govern effectively, why should we trust that they can handle something as touchy as the Iran nuclear deal? I'm not advocating that Obama should be solely responsible for the deal, but I think if the bill is signed, it'll be a case of "too many chefs in the kitchen".
    05-21-2015 07:53 PM
  14. Scott7217's Avatar
    I'm not advocating that Obama should be solely responsible for the deal, but I think if the bill is signed, it'll be a case of "too many chefs in the kitchen".
    It makes sense for the Republicans to push this bill because they are very critical of Obama. However, I'm surprised that a lot of Democrats also voted in favor of the bill to review the Iran deal. Maybe they think Obama is missing something with the negotiations with Iran?
    05-22-2015 03:48 AM
  15. Live2ride883's Avatar
    Oh no...according to John McCain they were just in a hurry trying to beat an approaching snowstorm and in a rush he didn't really read the thing he was signing very closely. Wow....and this man wanted to be President.

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    Am I the only one that remembers Nancy Pelosi's speech stating we have to pass the bill (into law) in order to find out what's inside?

    As for this issue... I don't have an issue with the letter (at the time it was in the news), or recently for that matter.
    05-25-2015 06:28 PM
  16. A895's Avatar
    Am I the only one that remembers Nancy Pelosi's speech stating we have to pass the bill (into law) in order to find out what's inside?

    As for this issue... I don't have an issue with the letter (at the time it was in the news), or recently for that matter.
    Congress shouldn't directly be contacting a country we can barely get to talk to the president about disarming themselves. This is akin to you negotiating a deal with another company as the company representative and John and several others from legal say "hey, you know Live2ride883 won't be working here for too much longer, doesn't make sense to be hammering out a deal with gum when someone who comes after him may change the terms of the deal entirely". That doesn't seems rude or inconsiderate or just plain stupid to you? Someone goes out of their way to undermine any work you may have done?

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    05-26-2015 04:13 AM
  17. Scott7217's Avatar
    As for this issue... I don't have an issue with the letter (at the time it was in the news), or recently for that matter.
    Well, it's now a law. Congress gets to review any deals with Iran for a month, and the President cannot lift sanctions during the review:

    NBC News -- Obama Signs Congress Review of Iran Nuclear Deal Bill Into Law (article link)
    05-26-2015 07:07 PM
  18. Scott7217's Avatar
    I'm not prepared to call them traitors just yet.
    By the way, I heard Democrat Chuck Schumer is going to vote against Obama's deal with Iran. It looks like the deal wasn't good enough.
    08-10-2015 10:38 PM
  19. GadgetGator's Avatar
    By the way, I heard Democrat Chuck Schumer is going to vote against Obama's deal with Iran. It looks like the deal wasn't good enough.
    His on the record reason is that he doesn't think they can be trusted. That's a stupid thing to say as it means he wouldn't be happy with ANY deal. So let the bombs begin dropping I guess. Which is even more stupid as warmongering is not a current trait of the party Chuckles belongs to.
    08-12-2015 04:08 AM
  20. Scott7217's Avatar
    His on the record reason is that he doesn't think they can be trusted. That's a stupid thing to say as it means he wouldn't be happy with ANY deal.
    Well, Senator Schumer has been in office for a long time, so someone must like what he's doing.
    08-14-2015 04:53 PM
  21. dbrons's Avatar
    Some very good points were made here about what I think was a shameful act on the part of Republicans writing to the govt of Iran about a negotiation the administration was in with them

    I've just recently read that it has come out that the Republicans were also approached by Netanyahu who was trying to buy their votes against the agreement!
    01-03-2016 04:46 PM
  22. H3aTeRzz's Avatar
    Our once great country is fading, giving way to the spoiled rotten, "my feelings are hurt" society...magnified by the corrupt "establishment" politicians on both sides. God Bless America, please, we sure need it! That is my political rant for the day!

    Chris
    04-07-2016 06:49 AM
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