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    Quote Originally Posted by cdmjlt369 View Post
    Its hard to defend your home, etc. If you are a law abiding citizen with only 7 rounds if your adversary has a 30 round magazine.

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    Can you point me to any source for someone illegally entering a home armed with a 30 round magazine and using it to spray a house? Home invaders are usually there for the goods, not to murder. It's when things escalate that murders happen during home invasions.
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    Can you point me to any source for someone illegally entering a home armed with a 30 round magazine and using it to spray a house? Home invaders are usually there for the goods, not to murder. It's when things escalate that murders happen during home invasions.
    The point is that you have NO idea what firearm that criminal has when he/she is breaking into your home, and you have no idea what he/she is after. You had better bet I will do everything I can to ensure that myself and my family are better trained, better prepared and better armed than he/she is. As a conservative estimate I guess that I discharge almost 1000 rounds a month and that's not counting what the rest of the family expends.

    whatwhat: at what lengths are the CRIMINALS that perform home invasions going to go to get the goods, will they restrain us, will they injure us, or will they kill us? if your answer is anything but I don't know then honestly you are fooling yourself. I am not willing to risk the safety of myself or my family on the compassion of a criminal.
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    The point is that you have NO idea what firearm that criminal has when he/she is breaking into your home, and you have no idea what he/she is after. You had better bet I will do everything I can to ensure that myself and my family are better trained, better prepared and better armed than he/she is. As a conservative estimate I guess that I discharge almost 1000 rounds a month and that's not counting what the rest of the family expends.
    If your family understands and respects those weapons I say good man. Responsible owners make sure family understands the potential harm as well as the good it can do and that its not just a toy. I say more power to you brother.

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    If your family understands and respects those weapons I say good man. Responsible owners make sure family understands the potential harm as well as the good it can do and that its not just a toy. I say more power to you brother.

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    Thank you, not only does my family respect and understand the inherit danger in firearms, as I stated earlier my 11 year old daughter is a better marksman than my 15 year old son. She loves to go to the range and shoot, or out to the farm.

    Last Christmas my wife gave me this as a gift my daughter has already stated that she wants me to pass it to her when she turns 18.
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatwhat View Post
    Can you point me to any source for someone illegally entering a home armed with a 30 round magazine and using it to spray a house? Home invaders are usually there for the goods, not to murder. It's when things escalate that murders happen during home invasions.
    Their fears find a much more comforting home in imaginary, conceptual diversions. Critical, pragmatic thinking is asking too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinadroid View Post
    Their fears find a much more comforting home in imaginary, conceptual diversions. Critical, pragmatic thinking is asking too much.
    Courage is the ability to confront fear, pain, danger, uncertainty, or intimidation. Physical courage is courage in the face of physical pain, hardship, death, or threat of death, while moral courage is the ability to act rightly in the face of popular opposition, shame, scandal, or discouragement.

    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
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    Imaginary to you I've been through an armed robbery your out of your mind if you think I don't take offense to that. Again you guys live under the false pretense that these things never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2ride883 View Post
    Courage is the ability to confront fear, pain, danger, uncertainty, or intimidation. Physical courage is courage in the face of physical pain, hardship, death, or threat of death, while moral courage is the ability to act rightly in the face of popular opposition, shame, scandal, or discouragement.

    Thank you for providing further evidence of those imaginary, conceptual diversions.. It takes a courageous man to step from the cowardly position behind a trigger and find a better way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrm5110 View Post
    Imaginary to you I've been through an armed robbery your out of your mind if you think I don't take offense to that. Again you guys live under the false pretense that these things never happen.

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    Since you refused to address the direct question posed to you by WhatWhat, one can only surmise that the armed robbery that you survived was by a criminal with a 30-round capacity weapon. True? And yet, here you are today.

    And where experiencing crime is concerned, don't feel like the Lone Ranger. I've gone through several incidents myself, but only back when I still had an atom of faith in the false-arguments the NRA was spewing.
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    When you would rather leave it to be stolen in your car than leave it home for a trip outside, it is a sign of fear in my opinion.

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    What's to stop someone from stealing it from my home when I am out running errands?

    And once again you are acting like I am just leaving it laying on my front seat, with the windows down and doors unlocked for anyone to steal. When it is locked in a secured vehicle gun safe. That is hidden from view in my truck.
    If I am on my bike it is also locked in a secured vehicle gun safe that is hidden from view.

    At least post it accurately.
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

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    This really needs to go without saying because everybody should know it but. ....

    Laws are for the law abiding........punishment is for those that disregard the law.

    But the real question is, how do you regulate those that have no regard for the law or the punishment? It doesn't matter the crime be it murder or theft or rape.

    These are the real depraved individuals that our system of government CANNOT control and the Adam Lanza case falls into that category.

    There are forces at work here manipulating the situation to effect their own agenda and if you give them the inch, they'll take the mile.

    I have no answers except say for one, the further this country drifts away from the morals and principals it was founded on (In GOD We Trust) for one, it's only going to get worse.

    If we all loved each other as we loved ourselves, it surely would be a better place!
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    Why can't we all get along?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinadroid View Post
    Their fears find a much more comforting home in imaginary, conceptual diversions. Critical, pragmatic thinking is asking too much.
    Plan for the worst and pray for the best.

    That's just called being prepared.
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    No one is taking your guns away. Congress and the President want to restructure how available high-powered, high-round assault rifles are to the general public.

    If a shotgun isn't enough to defend you and your family, you must be anticipating some kind of gang or army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatwhat View Post
    Can you point me to any source for someone illegally entering a home armed with a 30 round magazine and using it to spray a house? Home invaders are usually there for the goods, not to murder. It's when things escalate that murders happen during home invasions.
    So if they are there for goods, why do the shoot homeowners and hunt down moms and children in the crawl space like in Georgia a couple weeks ago?

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    No one is taking your guns away. Congress and the President want to restructure how available high-powered, high-round assault rifles are to the general public.<br />
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    If a shotgun isn't enough to defend you and your family, you must be anticipating some kind of gang or army.
    hahaha..love these people that assume something they know nothing about.

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    No one is taking your guns away. Congress and the President want to restructure how available high-powered, high-round assault rifles are to the general public.

    If a shotgun isn't enough to defend you and your family, you must be anticipating some kind of gang or army.
    Assault weapons encompass a vast array of shotguns and handguns so in essence yes they are. Also how are those rifles high powered the shoot .223 rounds the only thing high powered would be if your dropping 5.56 NATO rounds which tumble in the body so again why not restrict the ammo why the rifle itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrm5110 View Post
    Assault weapons encompass a vast array of shotguns and handguns so in essence yes they are. Also how are those rifles high powered the shoot .223 rounds the only thing high powered would be if your dropping 5.56 NATO rounds which tumble in the body so again why not restrict the ammo why the rifle itself.

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    Sorry, don't restrict my ammo, I want each bullet to be a kill bullet if I have to protect myself or family. I'm done with these criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markster1 View Post
    if you give them the inch, they'll take the mile.
    Thanks for the admission that no one else on the extremist side is willing to state. There is NO room for sober consideration of level-headed moderation of those firearms produced in this country which are subsequently used in murder/homicide. It matters not to those wrapping themselves in the flag that their "conservative" heroes led the way to the assault weapons ban of 1994. The NRA, and it's selective agenda, inconsistent with the Constitution, owns today's GOP.

    Acting as if all firearms are, or ever will be, under scrutiny is an irrational, paranoid, politically-based delusion.
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    Show me proof the ban from 94 to 04 worked.

    Show me it stopped people from going and killing other people.

    I don't know what will work but I know that didn't.
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    Show me proof the ban from 94 to 04 worked.

    Show me it stopped people from going and killing other people.

    I don't know what will work but I know that didn't.
    You're asking for proof that the ban worked and not putting forward your own proof about the ban, but you know that it didn't work. I guess you omitted your proof?
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    You're asking for proof that the ban worked and not putting forward your own proof about the ban, but you know that it didn't work. I guess you omitted your proof?
    Why would weapons be grandfathered in if they were such a problem? Actually government studies showed very few "assault weapons" were involved in crimes.

    Also the fact that a COSMETIC change can make a gun an assault weapon, should tell people something. The rise in these crimes happened after the federal gun free zone.

    What do people not understand about criminals breaking the law? If they are going to murder, gun bans don't mean saw squat to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolittdroid View Post
    No one is taking your guns away. Congress and the President want to restructure how available high-powered, high-round assault rifles are to the general public.

    If a shotgun isn't enough to defend you and your family, you must be anticipating some kind of gang or army.
    Actually Sent Dianne Fienstien(sp) has introduced an assault weapons ban that would stop the sale and production of several of the so called assault weapons, this ban would include the magazines that in her opinion hold an excessive number of rounds. Unfortunately this ban would affect many of my own weapons, if I wanted to leave them to my sons in my will I would not be able to do so. If I had a financial hardship and needed to sell some things for cash then this ban would prevent that from happening.

    The ban would also force me to register each of my weapons, as well as the serial number and my fingerprints into a database. This ban also includes several handguns as well that she is classifying as being military style weapons.

    Registration is one small step away from confiscation.

    I want to make one thing perfectly clear, none of my weapons are assault weapons. They are defense weapons only.
    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

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    You're asking for proof that the ban worked and not putting forward your own proof about the ban, but you know that it didn't work. I guess you omitted your proof?

    DOJ (Department of Justice) files

    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
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    For anyone that thinks the government would never turn against us let's not forget about the image below. After you look at it ask yourself is the government more capable now than it was then, or is it more capable?
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    I miss my friend Matt McQuinn he touched so many lives, and in the end gave his life to protect someone that he loved. I am proud to have known him, and of the choices he made when it mattered. You were a true hero.

    "You would not fear my weapon unless your intentions were to provoke my using it"
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