04-27-2012 05:44 PM
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  1. Hotweelz's Avatar
    Not sure if anyone has posted about it here yet but here it is!!

    discussion of s-off - Page 99 - xda-developers


    Be sure to thank all involved in the development and testing of this!!! They are awesome!
    04-21-2012 05:07 PM
  2. baker954's Avatar
    Beat me to it!

    Here is a link to the actual directions thread!

    S-off is Official!!! With Instructions... - xda-developers
    04-22-2012 02:18 AM
  3. humpagardengnome's Avatar
    Looks like all the time spent playing this game, will finally be put to use by those of us who aren't MDs.
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    04-22-2012 03:04 AM
  4. MrSmith317's Avatar
    After reading the procedure and the report of a brick.. yeah I'm going to pass unless absolutely necessary.
    04-22-2012 11:31 AM
  5. axne1's Avatar
    Sounds like a lil risk involved?

    sent from a Android device
    04-22-2012 11:35 AM
  6. MrSmith317's Avatar
    Read up on it. It requires shorting the system to cause "service mode" . I'm personally not cool with that and can get by just fine with unlock.
    04-22-2012 11:43 AM
  7. Hotweelz's Avatar
    I don't think it's all that bad. Everyone who encountered any problems was almost immediately helped out by their forum members and others on IRC. I will read some more over there this morning, but as of last night I don't think anyone had a unrecoverable brick. I also think the people who worked on this long hours for everyone deserve thanks. I guess it might not be for everybody. Just my 2 cents.
    04-22-2012 12:38 PM
  8. Wanda's Avatar
    Yep, they definitely deserve some props for the hard work.

    But after just taking a precursory glance at some of the threads on XDA I'm going to pass for now...seems like a lot of risk. I mean, some people had problems just running the last RUU and getting re-unlocked and rooted...I can't imagine the issues intentionally shorting the phone out might cause when done improperly. You know someone's not going to use an insulated wire or somebody's going to be scuffing around on their carpet just before they sit down to try without discharging the static buildup.

    I'm still holding out hope for an easier solution.
    04-22-2012 01:39 PM
  9. mtbhk44's Avatar
    I actually spent a good portion of the afternoon trying this. I could NOT get the wire trick to work. I gave up. For some reason, my phone would not accept the two wire touch. I had all kinds of problems too, but all were fixable. The original ROM I was running is back on the phone in working order. No beer for me.
    04-22-2012 08:19 PM
  10. twolastnames's Avatar
    Ya, this sort of thing I wait for. I usually only wait a week, but I try to keep up on the threads so I know what not to do, and what to watch out for, how to fix things, etc. Helped when I ran the leaked RUU, I got stuck on the HTC screen, but realized, because I read for a week, I forgot to let it run twice. So hooray for reading.
    So I'll be shorting crap out probably next weekend. Besides, what am I gonna do with it right now anyway? There are no roms set up for it, my leaked radio works fine, and I reset my phone only after flashing roms, so I'm not all that concerned about the splash screen.
    04-22-2012 11:57 PM
  11. mtbhk44's Avatar
    I ended up with success here. The culprit was what I was using to short the system out. I found that the paperclip trick just did not work (I tried several clips). I used very low grade speaker wire - white to white - and it hit the 2nd time I tried. I also found I needed to have a functioning SD card (if you fail, it wipes the card and the card is not readable - you will need to quickly format the card in a reader on your PC and stick it back in) and an active working recovery. Any time I tried this with a missing recovery it would fail. If the SD was unformatted, it also would not work. I have no idea if any or both of these things were attritubing to the failure, but once all of the pieces were in place (low grade speaker wire, working recovery, functioning SD card) the S-OFF trick worked and I was successful.

    Good luck to anyone looking to do this. It looks a lot scarier than it is. There are ZERO reports of bricks - some soft bricks, but all have been fixable. Just make sure you are using some kind of insulated wire - do not use uninsulated wire in the event you have accumulated static electricity. THAT would brick your phone for sure.
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    04-23-2012 07:36 AM
  12. mrksbrd's Avatar
    Anyone needing assistance with this can go to webchat.freenode.net #JuopunutBear Guys are super helpful and process is really easy. Program you download is very simple and does pretty much everything for you besides the "wire trick", I've done it to mine and didn't have one issue.
    04-23-2012 07:08 PM
  13. 318sugarhill's Avatar
    Hopefully a Mac version of the download will be along soon. For those of us with no windows access.
    04-23-2012 07:50 PM
  14. xxfallacyxx's Avatar
    With the value and importance of my phone, I think obtaining S-OFF looks more like defusing a bomb to me than just playing Operation haha :P

    I'm usually gung-ho for these kind of activities, but I'm going to wait on this one until Scrosler decides it's necessary for his ROMs.
    04-24-2012 12:41 PM
  15. whtciv2k's Avatar
    I know it sounds bad and looks hard but overall it isn't so bad. I spent a lot of time just trying to get to the point where it asks to do the wire trick. this was the problem I was having and that many others are having over at XDA.

    Not ONE person has bricked their phoes over at XDA by doing this procedure.

    It took me 3 days and trying just about everything but I got it to work. It took a lot longer becuase I was hesitant on doing a full factory wipe. Once i did a factory wipe everything just started to work. I ended up doing the wire trick in 1 try. I am now S-OFF and have already flashed back to GB radio's and changed my boot splash screens.

    If asked to do another phone, I could probably do it in under 20 minutes.

    S-OFF ftw!
    04-25-2012 01:13 PM
  16. whtciv2k's Avatar
    Hopefully a Mac version of the download will be along soon. For those of us with no windows access.
    People have been successfull running this entire process in a virtual enviroment. Might I suggest parallels or bootcamp?
    04-25-2012 01:14 PM
  17. Dovahkiin's Avatar
    After reading the procedure and the report of a brick.. yeah I'm going to pass unless absolutely necessary.
    Scoot over and pass me a paddle, I'm in the same boat as you.
    I've been outta the game for a while (layed off, got a new job, etc) and didn't really follow up on much news. When I saw S-Off was available for the Rez, I was like "sa-weeet!"
    Then I saw the Frankenstein experiment being performed on it and immediately decided to pass. I'm perfectly ok with what I have.
    04-26-2012 01:01 PM
  18. Nanashi1231's Avatar
    I was all excited until I saw the words "wire trick" and all that jazz. Think I'll wait until a more stable method is perfected. Kudos to the brave souls who came up with it, though.
    04-26-2012 05:33 PM
  19. tmettler5's Avatar
    I think I may until the folks at Unrevoked come up with something...the idea of shorting out my phone kind of weirds me out.
    04-26-2012 08:08 PM
  20. buckifvr's Avatar
    Getting S-Off, really wasn't really that bad. It took me 3 evenings to finally get it to work, but never once did my phone fail to work. Alot of that time was wasted because I did not realize there was something wrong with my old microSD card. Once I reformatted it I was able to make progress. Then the wire trick, was tricky. I tried different types of wire, but ultimately a large paper clip worked perfect, and I did not even insulate it. I have no problems with internal or external SD cards.

    Trust me its not that scary or risky. But the process has a learning curve.
    04-26-2012 09:39 PM
  21. buckifvr's Avatar
    This is how I finally achieved success for S-Off

    1. Download the appropriate ControlBearRelease zip file to your PC (I used version 0.2.1)
    2. Extract the zip file and put ControlBear.exe, jb_boot.img, and jb_hboot.zip files in the same folder as adb and fastboot.
    3. Remove the battery from your Rezound and place a formated microSD card that you are not using in your phone. Set the original data filled microSD card aside for safe keeping. During the S-Off procedure the microSD card will get wiped. Replace the battery, but do not put the battery cover on.
    4. Connect your phone to your pc with the USB cable. And boot into bootloader. You will end up in fastboot-usb
    5. Go to folder with ControlBear.exe file. Right click and Run as Administrator
    6. ControlBear will run. At one point it will say you have 5 seconds to enter Ctrl-C (whenever I hit Ctrl-C it would just close the ControlBear window and do nothing). I would just do nothing. After 5 seconds the program will continue to run.
    7. After a short while the program will prompt you to do the wire trick. I tried several different types of wire, but a large paper clip worked the best.
    8. The program will resume running and tell you if you succeeded in having S-Off.
    9. If S-Off failed, just try again.

    4.
    04-26-2012 09:56 PM
  22. MrSmith317's Avatar
    Getting S-Off, really wasn't really that bad. It took me 3 evenings to finally get it to work, but never once did my phone fail to work. Alot of that time was wasted because I did not realize there was something wrong with my old microSD card. Once I reformatted it I was able to make progress. Then the wire trick, was tricky. I tried different types of wire, but ultimately a large paper clip worked perfect, and I did not even insulate it. I have no problems with internal or external SD cards.

    Trust me its not that scary or risky. But the process has a learning curve.
    I think a lot of us look at it as a risk vs reward issue. I'm fine with the current ROM flashing method and understand the risks of using leaked firmware. So I'm ok without S-Off.
    04-27-2012 05:11 AM
  23. Wanda's Avatar
    I think I may until the folks at Unrevoked come up with something...the idea of shorting out my phone kind of weirds me out.
    I didn't know they were working on it or even had made any progress. Last message I saw from them was from back in December.

    EDIT: from what I read, Unrevoked has collaberated on the Revolutionary tool that this J-bear/wire trick takes the place of. To me that means they were unsuccessful in implementing any other way of getting it done, leaving us with the process we have now.

    I'm giving the process another thought. Seems like most of the dev's have gone through the process which means they'll be setting up their ROM's for S-Off. It sure would make flashing/restoring a lot easier.
    04-27-2012 06:26 AM
  24. Wanda's Avatar
    Well after considering for a couple days I decided to go for it. I'm happy to report I'm S-Off with no problems. It took me longer to remember my password to run it as an Administrator than it took for the program to run and for the wire trick.

    I'm running RezROM's latest Sense 3.6 ROM and had no issues at all. Using the latest J-Bear version .4 my internal SD was NOT wiped, don't know about the external cause I popped in a spare blank card.

    Program ran, did the wire trick with a piece of stripped coax about 5-6 times (probably because I was so friggan nervous), program completed and I installed the custom bootloader. Powered down, put my usual SD card back in, rebooted back to my ROM and it was like nothing had ever happened...except that my bootloader now says S-Off.
    04-27-2012 09:15 AM
  25. MrSmith317's Avatar
    Well after considering for a couple days I decided to go for it. I'm happy to report I'm S-Off with no problems. It took me longer to remember my password to run it as an Administrator than it took for the program to run and for the wire trick.

    I'm running RezROM's latest Sense 3.6 ROM and had no issues at all. Using the latest J-Bear version .4 my internal SD was NOT wiped, don't know about the external cause I popped in a spare blank card.

    Program ran, did the wire trick with a piece of stripped coax about 5-6 times (probably because I was so friggan nervous), program completed and I installed the custom bootloader. Powered down, put my usual SD card back in, rebooted back to my ROM and it was like nothing had ever happened...except that my bootloader now says S-Off.
    Here's the question...was it worth it? Did it change the way you handle "business"? Believe me, I understand the rewards of S-Off. I actually kind of miss it sometimes when I'm theme'ing.
    04-27-2012 10:03 AM
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