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  1. Central n ohios best's Avatar
    Ms and u are in two different time reality zones then because I see either the one motox or the gs4 or note on tv and the web. I have saw a lot of commercials clowing the ip5s and c tbough lol.

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    12-22-2013 09:47 AM
  2. Haalcyon's Avatar
    ... If more ppl wanted phablets, Apple would not be in the lead right now based on single OEM competition


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    I think there's a bit more to it than that. Can you envision a Miley Cyrus, Beyance, or a Kanye West wielding the power of an Android phablet? I cannot, really. Jennifer Lawrence is more the complex Android wielding type, I choose to believe. Sorry, that was a bit irrelevant but my point is that some people need simple...and small...and bling....and the Fruit. Some do not.

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    12-22-2013 10:14 AM
  3. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    I think there's a bit more to it than that. Can you envision a Miley Cyrus, Beyance, or a Kanye West wielding the power of an Android phablet? I cannot, really. Jennifer Lawrence is more the complex Android wielding type, I choose to believe. Sorry, that was a bit irrelevant but my point is that some people need simple...and small.

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    You just made my point


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    12-22-2013 10:15 AM
  4. Haalcyon's Avatar
    You just made my point


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    I think if Apple made a phablet Kanye and Fiddy would be all in. Simple and big.

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    12-22-2013 10:18 AM
  5. UJ95x's Avatar
    Every report I have read says the iphone 5s is the single best selling phone this quarter. So how does that add up?


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    Maybe because it just released? I wouldn't expect the S4 to be selling the most, it released at the beginning of the year. Android OEMs as a whole still sells more than Apple

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    12-22-2013 10:16 PM
  6. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    Android OEMs as a whole still sells more than Apple

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    And no phablet making OEM can compete on its own merit. More people love smaller quality phones! There's just no way around it. You literally "just" said it! Phabs are an impractical nitch product.



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    12-22-2013 11:44 PM
  7. UJ95x's Avatar
    And no phablet making OEM can compete on its own merit. More people love smaller quality phones! There's just no way around it. You literally "just" said it! Phabs are an impractical nitch product.



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    On their own, no. Why? Because people who buy Android phones like choice, hence the many different kinds of Android phones there are. The iPhone by itself does not outsell all of the Android "phablets." If there was one Android OEM, it would sell a lot better than the iPhone (Android has more market share)
    People don't buy iPhones because they're small, they buy them because they're iPhones. If Apple comes out with a 4.7 inch iPhone next year, people will still flock to the stores and they will sell just as well.

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    12-22-2013 11:56 PM
  8. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    On their own, no. Why? Because people who buy Android phones like choice, hence the many different kinds of Android phones there are. The iPhone by itself does not outsell all of the Android "phablets." If there was one Android OEM, it would sell a lot better than the iPhone (Android has more market share)
    People don't buy iPhones because they're small, they buy them because they're iPhones. If Apple comes out with a 4.7 inch iPhone next year, people will still flock to the stores and they will sell just as well.

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    Right! But go to 5+ and they'll be a backlash! Universally, 5+ is just not practical! It's funny how everyone who comments keeps supporting my view while fighting it at the same time! U guys just like to argue!


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    12-22-2013 11:59 PM
  9. UJ95x's Avatar
    Right! But go to 5+ and they'll be a backlash! Universally, 5+ is just not practical! It's funny how everyone who comments keeps supporting my view while fighting it at the same time! U guys just like to argue!


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    Sure, they'll be mad that the phone is 5+ inches, but they'll still buy it. By your logic, smaller sells more. If that were true, people would still be buying the 4S because it's smaller. When it originally came out, the iPhone was considered a good size, and the 4.3 inch Android phones were "big."
    That doesn't change the fact that people buy iPhones because they're iPhones. A lot of Apple fans would buy a bigger iPhone because moving to Android isn't an option.
    12-23-2013 12:04 AM
  10. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    Sure, they'll be mad that the phone is 5+ inches, but they'll still buy it. By your logic, smaller sells more. If that were true, people would still be buying the 4S because it's smaller. When it originally came out, the iPhone was considered a good size, and the 4.3 inch Android phones were "big."
    That doesn't change the fact that people buy iPhones because they're iPhones. A lot of Apple fans would buy a bigger iPhone because moving to Android isn't an option.
    I never denied that iphone fans want a bigger phone... Or even that the 4" iphone may be a tad bit too small. But even you, defending the phablet, still won't make a point and use 5+inches to make that point. You stopped at 4.7! Why? Because deep down, you too believe that after 4.7, you get into nitch territory!

    Just admit it! lol


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    12-23-2013 12:08 AM
  11. UJ95x's Avatar
    I never denied that iphone fans want a bigger phone... Or even that the 4" iphone may be a tad bit too small. But even you, defending the phablet, still won't make a point and use 5+inches to make that point. You stopped at 4.7! Why? Because deep down, you too believe that after 4.7, you get into nitch territory!

    Just admit it! lol


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    I just used 4.7 as an example. I have an S4 and I'd be willing to go bigger if the phone is smaller (G2 has a 5.2 inch screen in the same footprint)
    12-23-2013 12:15 AM
  12. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    I just used 4.7 as an example. I have an S4 and I'd be willing to go bigger if the phone is smaller (G2 has a 5.2 inch screen in the same footprint)
    Apple's philosophy is to find the size that satisfies the most amount of customers. The iPhone has gotten to the point that I think we all agree that it has to grow. No one is arguing that. But collectively, the masses don't want 5in+ devices. They want quality high end practical devices, which is why Apple products resonates so much with people aside from the ecosystem.

    If Samsung wants to make a special device and call it a Galaxy Note, hey, more power to them and the people that but it! But the S4 should def be smaller. By it also being 5inches, it makes literally no sense in terms of differentiating it's product line.

    Same goes for any OEM trying to make a nitch product. Your basic flagship needs to be manageable and popular to the collective audience, and then u make your phablet nitch product! That's just my philosophy! But I know I'm right!

    And just like your example above, I too agree that 4.7 (Moto X style) is the sweet spot!


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    12-23-2013 12:23 AM
  13. UJ95x's Avatar
    Apple's philosophy is to find the size that satisfies the most amount of customers. The iPhone has gotten to the point that I think we all agree that it has to grow. No one is arguing that. But collectively, the masses don't want 5in+ devices. They want quality high end practical devices, which is why Apple products resonates so much with people aside from the ecosystem.

    If Samsung wants to make a special device and call it a Galaxy Note, hey, more power to them and the people that but it! But the S4 should def be smaller. By it also being 5inches, it makes literally no sense in terms of differentiating it's product line.

    Same goes for any OEM trying to make a nitch product. Your basic flagship needs to be manageable and popular to the collective audience, and then u make your phablet nitch product! That's just my philosophy! But I know I'm right!

    And just like your example above, I too agree that 4.7 (Moto X style) is the sweet spot!


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    In my opinion the sweet spot is between 4.7 and 5.2 (Big window) but that's just me. There is still a big difference between the Note line and the S line. Anyone with a Note 3 feels that the S4 is too small and vice versa. I'd personally like a slightly bigger Moto X (4.85/4.9 would be perfect) and because of the small bezels, the phone isn't very big. The S4 is great, but with the bezels (not big but not thin either) it can be hard to reach all four corners. Apple has room for improvement with those thick bezels. They could easily fit a 4.5 inch screen in the same footprint.
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    12-23-2013 12:33 AM
  14. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    In my opinion the sweet spot is between 4.7 and 5.2 (Big window) but that's just me. There is still a big difference between the Note line and the S line. Anyone with a Note 3 feels that the S4 is too small and vice versa. I'd personally like a slightly bigger Moto X (4.85/4.9 would be perfect) and because of the small bezels, the phone isn't very big. The S4 is great, but with the bezels (not big but not thin either) it can be hard to reach all four corners. Apple has room for improvement with those thick bezels. They could easily fit a 4.5 inch screen in the same footprint.
    We can agree! And that's probably the size Apple needs to go to.


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    12-23-2013 12:53 AM
  15. retsaw's Avatar
    There getting a little big, but so long as there is choice it doesn't matter. I'd like to see more high end choice in the 4.0 to 4.5 inch realm. It will be interesting to see if smart-watches catch on and to see if someday a smart-watch becomes a stand alone cell phone.
    I guess you missed the Omate TrueSmart. That "someday" is already here. In fact you have been able to get smartphone watches for a while if you looked on eBay, but they weren't much good.

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    12-23-2013 03:05 AM
  16. tr-1's Avatar
    It's never "too big" until no one buys them anymore. What's wrong with having a choice? Phablets are extremely popular in Asia partly because many can't afford a tablet AND a phone and phablets are a great compromise. Phablets are popular here as well and sale numbers prove it.

    Anyone who says they are impractical.... it's only YOUR opinion so please don't try to make it a fact. 5-6" is impractical to you and 4" is impractical to those who pick phablets.
    This is one of the most pointless threads I've seen in a while. Can't believe it got 15 pages already.

    I guess this kind threat could make sense on an Apple blog since there's only one screen size and no choice but with Android you got any imaginable size (even pure Android phones now)
    12-23-2013 08:15 AM
  17. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    It's never "too big" until no one buys them anymore. What's wrong with having a choice? Phablets are extremely popular in Asia partly because many can't afford a tablet AND a phone and phablets are a great compromise. Phablets are popular here as well and sale numbers prove it.

    Anyone who says they are impractical.... it's only YOUR opinion so please don't try to make it a fact. 5-6" is impractical to you and 4" is impractical to those who pick phablets.
    This is one of the most pointless threads I've seen in a while. Can't believe it got 15 pages already.
    Many ppl buy phablets because the highest specs are only available there. If you truly like choice, as you and others advocate, then you would also want to see top notch specs in a manageable size too. Once you see that, like the iphone, I'm pretty sure the market will react and bring it down a notch! Nothing pointless about that idea.




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    12-23-2013 08:17 AM
  18. tr-1's Avatar
    Many ppl buy phablets because the highest specs are only available there. If you truly like choice, as you and others advocate, then you would also want to see top notch specs in a manageable size too. Once you see that, like the iphone, I'm pretty sure the market will react and bring it down a notch! Nothing pointless about that idea.
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    I HIGHLY doubt many buy phablets because they have higher specs. Note 3 has an extra gig of memory, so what? Spec shoppers are the minority. I have 2 friends with Notes and both don't even know what's inside.
    In any case, what you said about top notch smaller phone is a completely different subject. I have Moto X (came from GS4) and to me it's a perfect phone in terms of built materials and performance.
    12-23-2013 08:24 AM
  19. Orion78's Avatar
    Many ppl buy phablets because the highest specs are only available there. If you truly like choice, as you and others advocate, then you would also want to see top notch specs in a manageable size too. Once you see that, like the iphone, I'm pretty sure the market will react and bring it down a notch! Nothing pointless about that idea.





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    Riiiiight.....and it has nothing to do with having a nice big screen. Phablets are the best of both worlds.....great specs and nice big screen. Sweet spot? Well everyone's idea of a sweet spot is different. Thank God you don't make tech.
    12-23-2013 10:04 AM
  20. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    I HIGHLY doubt many buy phablets because they have higher specs. Note 3 has an extra gig of memory, so what? I have 2 friends with Notes and both don't even know what's inside.
    In any case, what you said about top notch smaller phone is a completely different subject. I have Moto X (came from GS4) and to me it's a perfect phone in terms of built materials and performance.
    Specs is everything for this strange market trend. You only have to read the news blogs to get that trend. Moto X got hit hard when it first came out because ppl didn't get the snapdragon 800 or a 1080p screen or 2 gb of ram. Once u make a flagship with specs that tech junkies can gloat over, like the iphone, it'll sell like hotcakes and kill the phablet market.


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    12-23-2013 10:18 AM
  21. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    Riiiiight.....and it has nothing to do with having a nice big screen. Phablets are the best of both worlds.....great specs and nice big screen. Sweet spot? Well everyone's idea of a sweet spot is different. Thank God you don't make tech.
    No but Apple does... And they're pretty successful with it too!


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    12-23-2013 10:20 AM
  22. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    Facts are delusional? Lol


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    12-23-2013 10:33 AM
  23. tr-1's Avatar
    Specs is everything for this strange market trend. You only have to read the news blogs to get that trend. Moto X got hit hard when it first came out because ppl didn't get the snapdragon 800 or a 1080p screen or 2 gb of ram. Once u make a flagship with specs that tech junkies can gloat over, like the iphone, it'll sell like hotcakes and kill the phablet market.


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    You are basing your entire argument on tech blogs... which are followed by a tiny minority of consumers. And sorry, but I couldn't help but LOL at your last line. Phablets are here to stay and I am very happy to see this. I LOVE the variety of screen sizes Google offers in Play Store. You are clearly pushing for less choices..... strangely
    12-23-2013 10:36 AM
  24. tr-1's Avatar
    No but Apple does... And they're pretty successful with it too!


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    I guess you missed out on all kinds of polls where majority of iPhone users want a bigger screen. Apple only gives you one option so obviously if you are into Apple, you have no choice and buy what they offer
    12-23-2013 10:38 AM
  25. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    You are basing your entire argument on tech blogs... which are followed by a tiny minority of consumers. And sorry, but I couldn't help but LOL at your last line. Phablets are here to stay and I am very happy to see this. I LOVE the variety of screen sizes Google offers in Play Store. You are clearly pushing for less choices..... strangely
    First, u are incorrect. I'm also going by sales #s of all phones on the market. And yes, that includes iPhones. Tech blogs and podcasters are taking about the very same thing! When is the phablet craze going to stop!

    Lastly, I'm absolutely not pushing for less choices. On the contrary, I'm pushing for something that technically is still not 100% there yet. I'm pushing for a normal size phone with top notch specs. I never once said they should eliminate phablets. I just think the trend needs to die. Why? Because people have LESS choice When all your top specs are in a 5+in screen size. So if anything, you're the one limiting choice here, not me


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    12-23-2013 10:42 AM
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