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    So, who's excited for the Android Silver program?

    Android 'Silver' devices could replace Nexus line with big in-store presence -- Android Central (link)

    It looks like Google will put out premium Android devices, increase their presence in retail stores, and push out quick updates. That sounds like a winner to me. What's your take?
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    I don't see how this would be very different from the Nexus line. They could certainly increase their presence even if they kept going with the Nexus line of devices.
    As long as they're as good or similar to the Nexus though, I'm sure they'll be great. Just hope they don't increase prices.
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    I can't wait. Google is FINALLY taking control and offering an experience similar to ios. No more worrying about updates or experience. Yet better because it is Android.

    And people are already complaining about pricing. I am sorry that Google spoiled everyone with underpriced phones that make no profit. Now they are expected to give their hardware away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoYankees44 View Post
    I can't wait. Google is FINALLY taking control and offering an experience similar to ios. No more worrying about updates or experience. Yet better because it is Android.

    And people are already complaining about pricing. I am sorry that Google spoiled everyone with underpriced phones that make no profit. Now they are expected to give their hardware away.
    I'm definitely with you on that. I see this as a win. Android Silver and Project Ara are two of the main tech I'm interested in 2015.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    I don't see how this would be very different from the Nexus line. They could certainly increase their presence even if they kept going with the Nexus line of devices.
    As long as they're as good or similar to the Nexus though, I'm sure they'll be great. Just hope they don't increase prices.
    +1 on the prices. I had always hoped for a "decked out" Nexus (top of the line camera etc), as long as they continue to offer a light version at a great price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoYankees44 View Post
    I can't wait. Google is FINALLY taking control and offering an experience similar to ios. No more worrying about updates or experience. Yet better because it is Android.

    And people are already complaining about pricing. I am sorry that Google spoiled everyone with underpriced phones that make no profit. Now they are expected to give their hardware away.
    Finally taking control is a bold and presumption statement for such a rumor. I don't believe Google will ever offer a similar
    long term software update that iOS can offer unless Google own their own hardware manufacturer. The silver program seems to be Google Play Edition devices for the mass consumers. However Google heavily market the silver devices. Who knows if Google will responsible for software updates or if these silver devices hardware wise will just be twin of existing devices.


    I think to soon think of silver program as Google second coming. If Google wanted to dominate the hardware market like apple AMD Samsung they could of some so years ago. Google much more concern about a bigger picture in terms of search, mobile connectivity, and relative data for entire world having access through Google.

    We will have to wait and see but I pretty confident this silver program is not simple play to please the small minority that Google's product to have they mainstream strategy of Apple and Samsung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunique4life05 View Post
    Finally taking control is a bold and presumption statement for such a rumor. I don't believe Google will ever offer a similar
    long term software update that iOS can offer unless Google own their own hardware manufacturer. The silver program seems to be Google Play Edition devices for the mass consumers. However Google heavily market the silver devices. Who knows if Google will responsible for software updates or if these silver devices hardware wise will just be twin of existing devices.


    I think to soon think of silver program as Google second coming. If Google wanted to dominate the hardware market like apple AMD Samsung they could of some so years ago. Google much more concern about a bigger picture in terms of search, mobile connectivity, and relative data for entire world having access through Google.

    We will have to wait and see but I pretty confident this silver program is not simple play to please the small minority that Google's product to have they mainstream strategy of Apple and Samsung.

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    Google could not have grown Android to what it is today without using the strategy that they did. All Oems and developers contributed and helped with the process. Now that the Android user base has grown so large and the software has matured, Google can release their own devices of a much higher caliper with more control and weight to throw around with the carriers. Now Google can realize it's ultimate goal of mass data farming with more control than ever before. They can move more towards the position of a leader in the market instead of just providing software for anyone to use.

    It does not take an owned manufacturer to create an optimized experience and long term updates. All it takes is closely working together, great hardware choices, and good agreements. I do not think Google will ever drag along and update old hardware like apple does, but I also think that non security related updates to 2+ year old devices is pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoYankees44 View Post
    Google could not have grown Android to what it is today without using the strategy that they did. All Oems and developers contributed and helped with the process. Now that the Android user base has grown so large and the software has matured, Google can release their own devices of a much higher caliper with more control and weight to throw around with the carriers. Now Google can realize it's ultimate goal of mass data farming with more control than ever before. They can move more towards the position of a leader in the market instead of just providing software for anyone to use.

    It does not take an owned manufacturer to create an optimized experience and long term updates. All it takes is closely working together, great hardware choices, and good agreements. I do not think Google will ever drag along and update old hardware like apple does, but I also think that non security related updates to 2+ year old devices is pointless.
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    I agree with you whole heartily on your statement, "Google could not have grown Android to what it is today without using the strategy that they did. All Oems and developers contributed and helped with the process. Now that the Android user base has grown so large and the software has matured

    However rest statement still screams second coming with silver program which still to hard tell for now. Android is the equivalent to windows is to PC. So why would Google need handle full of devices to push " ultimate goal of mass data farming with more control than ever" don't they have hundred of android devices that meet that end?

    "They can move more towards the position of leader in market instead of just providing software for anyone to use"

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    Android as whole is the leader in smartphone market which puts Google in the lead. Basically Google is not the driver in car that winning the race but the owner of car that driver winning race with. What would Google gain by being the "driver" rather than the "owner of the winning car" when the "owner" wins regardless if he is in seat or not?

    I only see silver program doing for Google is educated mass that their beloved android products are Google products. Furthermore that your Samsung Galaxy "#" is nothing without Google creating android. The order credit form OEM partner, Google and Android is I'm disarray. The mass see Samsung Galaxy # as solely Samsung product deserves the create. Then a small few from masses may give credit to android. Lastly almost none can make connection that Google is reason the Samsung Galaxy exists. This large uneducated mass consumers of mobile market are why may Google's own projects don't get of ground because all their OEM partners get the credit for Android. Google not getting credit they deserve hurts all their own projects from flourishing because masses see Google as another company entering mobile market rather than the Father of mobile market of today.

    Google could have all their silver devices number one but if accolades that Google deserves are not sorted Samsung,Apple and Carriers will still predominantly have the control because they will have masses in their favor. Google will perceived as another android devices in flood hundred android devices to masses in market in love with Apple and Samsung.



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    As long as Motorola doesn't stray from the software strategy introduced with the Moto X and Moto G, I have no need for "Android Silver".
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    I got the impression that Silver won't be carrier unlocked, and since I like to be mobile with my mobile, I prefer the Nexus line.

    Also, they might be floating the brand name (for I'm not sure what exactly), "niio". I just got a Google survey asking me if I liked the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsmumbles View Post
    I got the impression that Silver won't be carrier unlocked, and since I like to be mobile with my mobile, I prefer the Nexus line.

    Also, they might be floating the brand name (for I'm not sure what exactly), "niio". I just got a Google survey asking me if I liked the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    As long as Motorola doesn't stray from the software strategy introduced with the Moto X and Moto G, I have no need for "Android Silver".
    But what if moto makes a phone you don't like? Then you could have one of these as an option ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsmumbles View Post
    I got the impression that Silver won't be carrier unlocked, and since I like to be mobile with my mobile, I prefer the Nexus line.
    The Android Silver program may be Google's way of getting a Nexus phone on Verizon. If I understand the program correctly, the phone will be built to Google's specification (e.g. no microSD card slot) and there may be 1 or 2 Verizon apps pre-installed. In exchange, Verizon won't hold up software updates. However, this is just a guess on my part. Maybe Verizon and Google won't be able to reach an agreement, and there will be another year without a Nexus phone (or equivalent) on Verizon.

    As for unlocked phones, do you switch carriers or travel frequently? Perhaps Google will sell an unlocked phone online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ccota08 View Post
    I got that same survey last night. Mostly, I was just glad to get more free Google Play credit.
    They only give me $0.10 for surveys now. :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott7217 View Post
    The Android Silver program may be Google's way of getting a Nexus phone on Verizon. If I understand the program correctly, the phone will be built to Google's specification (e.g. no microSD card slot) and there may be 1 or 2 Verizon apps pre-installed. In exchange, Verizon won't hold up software updates. However, this is just a guess on my part. Maybe Verizon and Google won't be able to reach an agreement, and there will be another year without a Nexus phone (or equivalent) on Verizon.

    As for unlocked phones, do you switch carriers or travel frequently? Perhaps Google will sell an unlocked phone online.
    I've been reading rumors that they'll make a low spec Nexus phone, or budget phone, maybe that will be what they'll sell for unlocked? I like the ability to switch carriers, not that I do it so often. But I thought it is a good way to keep the carriers competitive, if they know the customer doesn't have to buy a locked phone from them and be committed to a contract.

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    I think this will be good. Finally devices like the Note and Moto X will come with a guarantee of software updates in the form of the Silver line. I'm not worried about lower priced phones. It seems like we're in a good era when it comes to high end phones at mid range prices. Motorola and OnePlus seem to have that sector covered. I have a feeling Motorola will announce something pretty good in a couple weeks. It might not be OnePlus specs good but it could be something pretty damn nice.
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    I like Silver's premium Android devices I just don't want to pay a premium price. I want a OLED touchscreen that is brighter, thinner, lighter, 1000 x faster refresh and uses much less power that any other current touchscreen technology. LG already makes OLED in the Flex.
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    But what if moto makes a phone you don't like? Then you could have one of these as an option ;-)
    The Motorola phones I don't like as much are the DROID ULTRA and the DROID MAXX, simply because of their physical size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOnlyMorgan View Post
    I think this will be good. Finally devices like the Note and Moto X will come with a guarantee of software updates in the form of the Silver line. I'm not worried about lower priced phones. It seems like we're in a good era when it comes to high end phones at mid range prices. Motorola and OnePlus seem to have that sector covered. I have a feeling Motorola will announce something pretty good in a couple weeks. It might not be OnePlus specs good but it could be something pretty damn nice.
    Don't believe you're going to see that with the Note series. Its software features all come from Touch Wiz (it's what makes it a Note!). Otherwise you just have a large screen device with a general stylus (no advanced functionality of the S-Pen).
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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    I don't see how this would be very different from the Nexus line. They could certainly increase their presence even if they kept going with the Nexus line of devices.
    How could Google increase the presence of the Nexus line? It's not like they didn't have the opportunity. There have been 5 iterations of the Nexus phone. What could Google do that they didn't already try?
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    If this end of nexus line it hard to say what Google did right or wrong with the nexus program.

    Google nexus devices was the fact they want make device for developers and decide make a few more. That is literally as much incite to nexus program for past few years.

    Google number purpose was to make android device how they wanted and have fun doing it. Sales never seemed important to Google and never seem to give end goal for Nexus line.

    Google for whatever reason seems either nexus line has run it course or want to add more to their Google Ecosystem with the Silver program.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott7217 View Post
    Perhaps Google will sell an unlocked phone online.
    I'm sure they will. Unlocked phones are very popular now.
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    My hopes for android silver

    I hope with android silver their is consistent design language between android silver devices. Having similar design cues will Android Silver device stand out better as whole and be more recognizable to the average consumers.

    Software updates need to roll out like nexus devices though the software up does not have to come by Google but they new updated no latter than GPE devices. Software update need last more than couple of years. This not make break or deal with android but I would love these devices to be support to 4 years.

    Lastly I think android silver devices need set set three standard screen sizes for smartphones and not change over year . They need a Mini(4.3in), Medium (5in), and Large (5.5in)


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    I never see Google becoming the major outlet of Android phones since that would put a lot of their other Android phone manufactures out of business. That is the Fruit company's plan not Googles. I think Google will produce the Android Flagship phone for App developers that shapes the direction they want the other Android phone manufactures to move as they introduce new features like the "Ok Google" where voice commands becomes the major user interface. With smart watches and other Android wearable and Android in our cars we won't even have to pull the phone out of our pockets or purses to do most things like text and voice calls. With Android in our autos communicating to our cell phones we will see devices in our autos that does everything we do today with a smart phone without even touching the phone.
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    My hopes for android silver

    I hope with android silver their is consistent design language between android silver devices. Having similar design cues will Android Silver device stand out better as whole and be more recognizable to the average consumers.

    Software updates need to roll out like nexus devices though the software up does not have to come by Google but they new updated no latter than GPE devices. Software update need last more than couple of years. This not make break or deal with android but I would love these devices to be support to 4 years.

    Lastly I think android silver devices need set set three standard screen sizes for smartphones and not change over year . They need a Mini(4.3in), Medium (5in), and Large (5.5in)


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    I kinda agree on the common design but rather standards instead of language. Not everyone likes the same design and it's one of the main reasons I like Android... Device choices. If they just stick to SW buttons (like Nexus) I'll be satisfied.

    Why does there have to be screen size "standard"? Apps scale seamlessly between 4.5 and 5.2". Maybe even up to 5.5 (haven't done side by side comp)
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