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    Default WHERE THE %@$& is the stock androids on verizon??

    Ok, I was REALLY excited about the Droid 3! Because of the keyboard finally having a dedicated number row, the 4" screen, 8mp cam in back and the front face! BUT I was REALLY EXCITED about it being stock more than anything! And now it has blur?.WTF!


    AND Verizon releases a stock phone with a game pad? Verizon, don't tell me thats my option! GIVE US A NEW STOCK ANDROID! ENOUGH WITH THIS SKINED BS! GIVE US A LEGITIMATE OPTION WITHOUT PORTING TO SPRINT FOR THE NS4G!

    THE fact that the D3 is blured, brke my heart enough to leave! If u don't give us a stock phone within the year, that DOESN'T have a game controller on it I'm leaving!

    Who's with me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamefulzero View Post
    Ok, I was REALLY excited about the Droid 3! Because of the keyboard finally having a dedicated number row, the 4" screen, 8mp cam in back and the front face! BUT I was REALLY EXCITED about it being stock more than anything! And now it has blur?.WTF!


    AND Verizon releases a stock phone with a game pad? Verizon, don't tell me thats my option! GIVE US A NEW STOCK ANDROID! ENOUGH WITH THIS SKINED BS! GIVE US A LEGITIMATE OPTION WITHOUT PORTING TO SPRINT FOR THE NS4G!

    THE fact that the D3 is blured, brke my heart enough to leave! If u don't give us a stock phone within the year, that DOESN'T have a game controller on it I'm leaving!

    Who's with me?
    If I was on Verizon, I'd be right there with you, buddy. Verizon doesn't like having stock phones because then they can't put loads of crappware on it, although the G2X is a stock phone with T-Mobile apps, so I don't know why they can't do that, but that's why the Nexus 3 probably won't be on Verizon. I know right now that AT&T's network is pretty much the worst right now, but they're coming out with LTE and will have some good phones coming out (along with [hopefully] the Nexus 3).
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    You need to remember what the general public, who also happens to be the majority, wants in a cell phone. Many might not know that a plain vanilla OS is better than the eye candy manufacturers give them. I'm right there with you on the need to have more stock OS' on the market. But company's are out to make money and they will make it with something thats different than the competition and offers more
    "wow-factor" to the consumer.

    Hopefully more manufacturers start to embrace the open development community and keep phones unlocked so that we can have access to AOSP choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibejack96 View Post
    If I was on Verizon, I'd be right there with you, buddy. Verizon doesn't like having stock phones because then they can't put loads of crappware on it, although the G2X is a stock phone with T-Mobile apps, so I don't know why they can't do that, but that's why the Nexus 3 probably won't be on Verizon. I know right now that AT&T's network is pretty much the worst right now, but they're coming out with LTE and will have some good phones coming out (along with [hopefully] the Nexus 3).
    It's not really verizon but the manufactures. They put there colorful crappy UI's on them and Verizon just takes them, for the sales, they don't ask for a Stock phone, but they would make more money if they had at least one.
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    The SonyEricsson Xperia Play is vanilla Gingerbread.Very little bloatware compared to Verizon's other Android devices.
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    Phandroid just posted a blip about Verizon getting the GS II in July.

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    I would ump all over a Nexus device on Verizon. I have been patiently waiting for the Droid Bionic to drop for Verizon, but if the Nexus S or next Nexus dropped at the same time I would probably go Nexus before going Droid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by experiment626 View Post
    The SonyEricsson Xperia Play is vanilla Gingerbread.Very little bloatware compared to Verizon's other Android devices.
    Yeah but like I said in my op I don't want a game pad! Is love a stock phone with just a touchscreen or even a kb. But it sucks that the only option we have for stock is with a game pad.

    If they made a case for it that was to prevent it from opening maybe I'd get it!.but I'm sure they won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntan View Post
    Phandroid just posted a blip about Verizon getting the GS II in July.
    Which is not a stock Android device. It has Touchwiz (Samsung's skin) on it.
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    Personally, I only consider devices that get firmware updates right away (like the Nexus One & Nexus S) "stock Android". The G2X & Xperia Play might not have *much* bloatware on them, but they do have some & are blocked by the carriers from getting immediate OTA updates when they are released.

    That, in my opinion, puts them right in with all the others.
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    I'm actually not very concerned with how quickly my phone gets the next OS ota update!. I really like froyo. I just want a stock device. I got the Droid x cuz it looked the most like stock with extra bonuses! Sprint has a huge selection. Why can't Verizon?
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    Do you not like to root & flash ROMs? It sounds to me like your problem could best be solved by installing an AOSP ROM.

    I understand the desire for a stock Android phone, but I couldn't imagine switching to any other carrier to get one because coverage with T-Mobile, AT&T, & Sprint are an absolute joke where I live & travel most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Jefe View Post
    Do you not like to root & flash ROMs? It sounds to me like your problem could best be solved by installing an AOSP ROM.

    I understand the desire for a stock Android phone, but I couldn't imagine switching to any other carrier to get one because coverage with T-Mobile, AT&T, & Sprint are an absolute joke where I live & travel most.
    It's quite the opposite! All I want is a stock phone, all id do is put a stock Rom on them and nothing else! I can't figure out for the life of me how to root and Rom!

    So why do I have to when all I want is stock! I wouldn't have to if I had stock on my phone.
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    Wink There were two that I know of.

    The OG Droid was a stock Android experience on Verizon, and the XOOM is completely vanilla android.
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    Can't have your cake and eat it too. Remember, when a company puts out consumer products, it looks at who's the majority type of buyer for that product. Sorry, we are the minority when it comes to having "Stock" phones. Instead of posting on this forum, you should hit up HTC, Moto, and Samsung and give them some feedback.
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    I'll take an open bootloaders for $400 please. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamefulzero View Post
    .... I can't figure out for the life of me how to root and Rom!
    You can't figure out how to root & ROM a Droid Incredible using the instructions in the forums? Here you go:

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/incr...ncredible.html

    I don't know which is the best stock Android ROM for the Droid Incredible since I don't have one, but again, you will find a lot of input in the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dansen926 View Post
    The OG Droid was a stock Android experience on Verizon, and the XOOM is completely vanilla android.
    You're right because I have the OG Droid and I got it a month after it came out. Everything else has something on it. Its sad that the last stock phone was the Droid and that came out almost 2 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dansen926 View Post
    The OG Droid was a stock Android experience on Verizon, and the XOOM is completely vanilla android.
    The og Droid is eol, besides there are better stock phones with killer specs now! The xoom is a tablet! It's great that Verizon has it but I want a stock phone. Any r they not competing with the G2x? Do they not care if I leave for t-mobile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamefulzero View Post
    Ok, I was REALLY excited about the Droid 3! Because of the keyboard finally having a dedicated number row, the 4" screen, 8mp cam in back and the front face! BUT I was REALLY EXCITED about it being stock more than anything! And now it has blur?.WTF!


    AND Verizon releases a stock phone with a game pad? Verizon, don't tell me thats my option! GIVE US A NEW STOCK ANDROID! ENOUGH WITH THIS SKINED BS! GIVE US A LEGITIMATE OPTION WITHOUT PORTING TO SPRINT FOR THE NS4G!

    THE fact that the D3 is blured, brke my heart enough to leave! If u don't give us a stock phone within the year, that DOESN'T have a game controller on it I'm leaving!

    Who's with me?
    Yooo!!!! I'd down to leave VZdubb too! I left sprint when all they had was the evo and the epic was just about to come out. I didn't want those big *** phones. (Just my personal pref.) So I bounced and went to verizon for the droid 2. At first I thought I was so cool cause I was the only one with froyo but man does blur suck! I did rom it and it looked like vanilla for awhile then the gingerbread leak came out and switched to that. I love gingerbread so I won't go back to a rommed froyo but i still can't stand blur. Thank god for launcher pro plus but man do I wish I was still on sprint cause I would've hopped on the Nexus S 4G super quick! I soooo wish I signed a 1 year contract with vzw. (Now they no longer offer one year contracts but at the time that I signed back in august they still did.) If I did sign a one year I would cancel it on August 12th (which would be my one year mark) and go back to sprint and get the Nexus S 4G even though it will be considered an old phone and there will be "better" phones out by then such as the Evo 3D. Sadly, I'm on a two year contract so I'm stuck with blur for a long time =(

    I'm with you dude! VZdubbs, we need a stock android or we're out!
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    I would compromise. They can keep putting their junk apps on, but leave the UI and google apps alone!
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    Do they not care if I leave for t-mobile?
    To be quite honest...no...they won't care because they will still have >104,000,000 customers without you & the overwhelming majority of them don't even KNOW what a stock Android phone even is. Would it be good business to offer a stock Android? Sure, plenty of people would buy it...but it would just be us phone geeks who even know the difference.

    If you want to go to T-Mobile, Sprint, or AT&T to get a Nexus phone or any upcoming stock Android phone, you totally should. Sprint & T-Mobile's plans are less than VZW's so you will save some $ each month anyway.

    Myself, as much as I would like a stock Android, I am content with getting the bloatware off myself by rooting & freezing it because the other carriers aren't even an option because I chose Verizon because of their coverage area. You get what you pay for, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Jefe View Post
    To be quite honest...no...they won't care because they will still have >104,000,000 customers without you & the overwhelming majority of them don't even KNOW what a stock Android phone even is. Would it be good business to offer a stock Android? Sure, plenty of people would buy it...but it would just be us phone geeks who even know the difference.

    If you want to go to T-Mobile, Sprint, or AT&T to get a Nexus phone or any upcoming stock Android phone, you totally should. Sprint & T-Mobile's plans are less than VZW's so you will save some $ each month anyway.

    Myself, as much as I would like a stock Android, I am content with getting the bloatware off myself by rooting & freezing it because the other carriers aren't even an option because I chose Verizon because of their coverage area. You get what you pay for, in my opinion.
    the reason i'm with verizon is so my family can get my company discount. i'm not with them by choice! so i would leave them in a heart beat! but i wanted to give them the chance to redeem me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamefulzero View Post
    the reason i'm with verizon is so my family can get my company discount. i'm not with them by choice! so i would leave them in a heart beat! but i wanted to give them the chance to redeem me!
    Even without a company discount Sprint is probably cheaper on a shared family plan, with unlimited data. Plus, the same discount is probably offered on Sprint.

    People, we need to realize that Stock Android OS' are not going to be pushed to market. Nobody wants a BMW with manual windows, no AC, and no push to start ignition. The same applies to a phone. The more bells and whistles it has the better. Maybe not from a usability standpoint, but from a marketing gimmick to push a device out the door and have a new two-year contract on the network. Don't get me wrong. HTC Sense, Motoblur have their perks and set the phones apart. My first, and current, Android device is a Sprint Hero with Sense. I know what sense is about so I'm not being biased. I love it, but it bogs the phone and prevents it from being 100% useable.


    Google realizes their is a development community and has released the Nexus series to help fit that void.

    At this point I'm just rambling. In summary, plaing vanilla phones will not become the norm, imo. It would be nice, but not realistic.
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    I know it sucks, I kind of want to leave Verizon too. I'm sticking with Verizon for the time being though, gonna wait for the Nexus 3 to come out to see what the new generation of ICS phones are gonna be like (not holding my breath on a Verizon Nexus though). If the Nexus 3 steps it up in specs (especially display specs, I'd take a SAMOLED+ over the iPhone's Retina display anyday, but I still wish they'd bump up the resolution on high-end Androids), I'll wait for an ICS device with an unlocked bootloader to hit Verizon. If the Nexus 3 doesn't really have much of a spec advantage, I'll get the Samsung Galaxy SII.

    I'm really starting to hate Verizon for their attitude towards the Nexus series, but I can't just switch because of that (not yet, anyway). I'm stuck in a rural area where they're the only reliable carrier for right now. I wish that things were flipped and Sprint had the best coverage, but that's just a fantasy.
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