[STC09]

Damn I would love to see a droid nexus.

Why would anyone want a bloated up Nexus?

FWIW, OG Droid was practically a Nexus 0.5.

[tropper]

Another illusion no only the wifi xoom is the google experience device.



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Besides the forced my VZW app I was under the impression it was pure google, my only experience is bout five min on my buddies wifi only and a couple on the one in th e store.

[Johnly]

Another google phone by Motorola will have my dollers. Droid was clean and was crazy good because everything worked well on good hardware... No plastic is always a plus. Google needs to just throw a strike already.

[tropper]

Another google phone by Motorola will have my dollers. Droid was clean and was crazy good because everything worked well on good hardware... No plastic is always a plus. Google needs to just throw a strike already.

Didn't ya like the N1?

[androidatic]

Seems like an obvious choice to me now that Google has bought Moto.

One can only hope. I'll never buy another Samsung and really don't care for HTC since they are generally big and bulky. The only Nexus phone I'll ever buy will be a Moto.

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[pauliphone5]

One can only hope. I'll never buy another Samsung and really don't care for HTC since they are generally big and bulky. The only Nexus phone I'll ever buy will be a Moto.

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Unless Google makes some to Motorola for the better I hope they don't make the Next Nexus.

In my opinion Motorola has neen jerking their customers around all year.

First the Xoom fiasco, followed by the release of the Bionic, Razr and Razr MAXX which are all virtually the same phones with the same bugs or very similar bugs.


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[moosc]

You have to think vzw fir all those phones. As for xoom they rushed the 4g with out a 4g radio even in in mass production or even passed through fcc.

Unless Google makes some to Motorola for the better I hope they don't make the Next Nexus.

In my opinion Motorola has neen jerking their customers around all year.

First the Xoom fiasco, followed by the release of the Bionic, Razr and Razr MAXX which are all virtually the same phones with the same bugs or very similar bugs.


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[androidatic]

Unless Google makes some to Motorola for the better I hope they don't make the Next Nexus.

In my opinion Motorola has neen jerking their customers around all year.

First the Xoom fiasco, followed by the release of the Bionic, Razr and Razr MAXX which are all virtually the same phones with the same bugs or very similar bugs.


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It's Verizon asking for the phones. Motorola is simply fulfilling requests by a carrier. Besides, they just announced that they are going to slow down the new phone releases. I guess they were able to convince Verizon that things needed to slow down.

I'm very unhappy with Samsung phones. The build quality and their radios are sub-par. I'll take a buggy phone with a better connection ANY day. And aside from the GN, they take forever to update the OS as well.

Now that Google owns, or will soon own, Moto, it makes sense to keep the Nexus in house. It would be like someone buying Ford and then asking Chevy to build the Mustang.

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[akhi216]

I'm very unhappy with Samsung phones. The build quality and their radios are sub-par. I'll take a buggy phone with a better connection ANY day.

This.

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[jroc]

I hope the next Nexus is by Moto too.

[Jaycemiskel]

I don't think they're taking turns but a Nexus by Moto would be nice provided they use good screen technology. Pretty sure Andy Rubin said they wouldn't give Moto special treatment though. Let's just hope they put a good bid in.

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[Stelv]

I'm very unhappy with Samsung phones. The build quality and their radios are sub-par. I'll take a buggy phone with a better connection ANY day. And aside from the GN, they take forever to update the OS as well.

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+1. Yes exactly. Samsung is not capable of making a good radio. The fact that google picked Samsung again was very disappointing. A Moto Nexus would show off Androids true capabilities. Moto though needs to stop treating us hackers poorly.

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[androidatic]

+1. Yes exactly. Samsung is not capable of making a good radio. The fact that google picked Samsung again was very disappointing. A Moto Nexus would show off Androids true capabilities. Moto though needs to stop treating us hackers poorly.

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Samsung is obviously under-bidding Moto and HTC. Now that Moto is under Google's umbrella, maybe that will change.

What I don't understand is why manufacturers care about what we do to phones after we buy them. They made their buck, if I want to run over it with steam roller, they shouldn't care.

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[Jaycemiskel]

Samsung is obviously under-bidding Moto and HTC. Now that Moto is under Google's umbrella, maybe that will change.

What I don't understand is why manufacturers care about what we do to phones after we buy them. They made their buck, if I want to run over it with steam roller, they shouldn't care.

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Motorola seems to be the only one left who cares.

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[Stelv]

Yea Motorola needs to loosen up a bit. I think they tend to do whatever Verizon tells them to do.

Also someone speculated they are so tight with encryption because they are trying to become a business alternative to blackberry and want to show business owners that they can thwart hackers.

I do hope Google has some behind the scenes involvement with Moto to offer an option to unlock bootloaders.

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[john_c#ac]

As much as I hate to say it, I would go so far as to say I see the Google acquisition making it far LESS likely that we will see a Moto Nexus.

The whole business model for Android is essentially the same as Microsoft drove to dominate the PC market. They focus on software and allow other companies to compete and innovate with the hardware and end user capabilities. They didn't buy Moto to make better phones. They bought Moto because they needed the patents to defend themselves against Apple. I could easily see them selling off the hardware unit after raiding the intellectual property vault - and that might be our best shot at seeing a Moto Nexus.

So long as Google owns Moto, they don't want to give even a whiff of favoritism because they don't want the other manufacturers to feel as if they are playing against a dealer with a stacked deck and his own hand in play. Those device makers are the key to their strategy and the key to their success. Google would rather shut down the whole phone operation at Moto than risk defections from the rest of the device makers. So if anything, I bet Moto will get less favoritism instead of more as executives go out of their way to avoid even the appearance of favoritism.

[Stelv]

Microsoft didn't allow different skins or interfaces to be on put on their computers.

Also I don't think Samsung and HTC would turn their backs on Google for making a Moto Nexus, after all htc and Samsung already had Nexus devices. I think Google will allow all manufacturers to get a fair shot at trying to bid on the Nexus.

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[jroc]

As much as I hate to say it, I would go so far as to say I see the Google acquisition making it far LESS likely that we will see a Moto Nexus.

The whole business model for Android is essentially the same as Microsoft drove to dominate the PC market. They focus on software and allow other companies to compete and innovate with the hardware and end user capabilities. They didn't buy Moto to make better phones. They bought Moto because they needed the patents to defend themselves against Apple. I could easily see them selling off the hardware unit after raiding the intellectual property vault - and that might be our best shot at seeing a Moto Nexus.

So long as Google owns Moto, they don't want to give even a whiff of favoritism because they don't want the other manufacturers to feel as if they are playing against a dealer with a stacked deck and his own hand in play. Those device makers are the key to their strategy and the key to their success. Google would rather shut down the whole phone operation at Moto than risk defections from the rest of the device makers. So if anything, I bet Moto will get less favoritism instead of more as executives go out of their way to avoid even the appearance of favoritism.

If thats the case...that isnt fair to Motorola. So its either risk hurting Moto feelings or the other manufactures...Its a no win situation then. Only fair thing to do is just have Moto make the next one or one soon. Maybe Moto doesnt even care about making a Nexus phone.

If you look at it...Samsung making back to back Nexus phones might be rubbing some ppl the wrong way too. So they are showing favoritism to Samsung and its fine? Even tho HTC has actual dev phones for Android, after the Nexus One its been all Samsung for Nexus phones.

[androidatic]

As much as I hate to say it, I would go so far as to say I see the Google acquisition making it far LESS likely that we will see a Moto Nexus.

The whole business model for Android is essentially the same as Microsoft drove to dominate the PC market. They focus on software and allow other companies to compete and innovate with the hardware and end user capabilities. They didn't buy Moto to make better phones. They bought Moto because they needed the patents to defend themselves against Apple. I could easily see them selling off the hardware unit after raiding the intellectual property vault - and that might be our best shot at seeing a Moto Nexus.

So long as Google owns Moto, they don't want to give even a whiff of favoritism because they don't want the other manufacturers to feel as if they are playing against a dealer with a stacked deck and his own hand in play. Those device makers are the key to their strategy and the key to their success. Google would rather shut down the whole phone operation at Moto than risk defections from the rest of the device makers. So if anything, I bet Moto will get less favoritism instead of more as executives go out of their way to avoid even the appearance of favoritism.

That would be disappointing since they tend to make the best hardware. The MS comparison isn't really and apt comparison though since MS never bought a PC manufacturer.

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[PetuniaCarlyle]

The MS comparison isn't really and apt comparison though since MS never bought a PC manufacturer.

True but they did acquire companies for their patent portfolio.

[androidatic]

True but they did acquire companies for their patent portfolio.

Yes they did.

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[pauliphone5]

That would be disappointing since they tend to make the best hardware. The MS comparison isn't really and apt comparison though since MS never bought a PC manufacturer.

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MS, is a great comparison, especially if you know how they have been with their Windows phone. They have very specific requirements that manufacturers need to meet in order to make a Windows phone. It creates consistency for their phone no matter the manufacturer.

It would be nice if Google did it more like that. Maybe we wouldn't have horrible skins on the Android phones that we do now. No more of that garbage Blur, Touch Whiz or Sense.

[jroc]

MS, is a great comparison, especially if you know how they have been with their Windows phone. They have very specific requirements that manufacturers need to meet in order to make a Windows phone. It creates consistency for their phone no matter the manufacturer.

It would be nice if Google did it more like that. Maybe we wouldn't have horrible skins on the Android phones that we do now. No more of that garbage Blur, Touch Whiz or Sense.

I have to say that the latest versions of Sense UI, Touchwiz and Blur, even Sense UI from 2010 wasnt all that bad.

"One mans trash is another mans treasure...."

I honestly feel the custom UI's dont get enough credit for what they get right vs. stock Android. Do you know the innovation thats in the latest version of Touchwiz and the UI thats on the LG phones? Tilt to swipe screens, tilt to zoom? It was mentioned and demoed for Gingerbread or Honeycomb I think....and Samsung and LG chose to implement it in their custom UI's. But its not in stock Android yet.

We really need to give the custom UI's more credit than we do.

[androidatic]

MS, is a great comparison, especially if you know how they have been with their Windows phone. They have very specific requirements that manufacturers need to meet in order to make a Windows phone. It creates consistency for their phone no matter the manufacturer.

It would be nice if Google did it more like that. Maybe we wouldn't have horrible skins on the Android phones that we do now. No more of that garbage Blur, Touch Whiz or Sense.

First off the person who mentioned MS was talking about their PC business unit , not their phone business unit, LOL! I guess you didn't read the post in which this was brought up.

Second, I don't want Google telling phone manufacturers how to design their phones, that inhibits creativity in the design process.

And the last, and more importantly biggest of the failed points in your post, is that if you watched Matias Durente's ICS presentation, he commented on how many of the new ICS features were taken from the various skins that the manufacturers were installing. He applauded them on their innovation.

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[pauliphone5]

I have to say that the latest versions of Sense UI, Touchwiz and Blur, even Sense UI from 2010 wasnt all that bad.

"One mans trash is another mans treasure...."

I honestly feel the custom UI's dont get enough credit for what they get right vs. stock Android. Do you know the innovation thats in the latest version of Touchwiz and the UI thats on the LG phones? Tilt to swipe screens, tilt to zoom? It was mentioned and demoed for Gingerbread or Honeycomb I think....and Samsung and LG chose to implement it in their custom UI's. But its not in stock Android yet.

We really need to give the custom UI's more credit than we do.

You may be right. But, what should happen is phone manufacturers should leave it up to the phone owner to decide what skins they would like. Give them the option to switch off Sense, TouchWhiz, or Blur. Instead what they choose to do is force their vision of Android onto people Leaving them with only the option of rooting and eliminating them.

When they do not offer at least the choice, that indicates to me they fear the majority of phone owners will not choose theirs.