[mikesmith]

My apologies if this is in the wrong forum. Couldn't really find a place where this fit.

Why isn't the battery size being upgraded with the rest of the phone? CPU, screen resolution, audio, camera, and especially the addition of LTE all add drain to the battery.

The new HTC quad core phone only has an 1800mAh battery. I can't believe quad core CPUs are going to help THAT much with energy saving.

Don't you think all new phones should have at least a 2500mAh or bigger battery? And especially if manufactures are going to start with non-removable batteries.

So why not go with a bigger battery? Cause bigger batteries add thickness? 1mm addition is a deal breaker? It costs too much? They want you to buy additional batteries? I just don't get it.

And one last rant, why are batteries still measured in talk time? Who the hell actually uses their smartphone to talk on? It should be measured in web browsing, texting/messaging, audio/video use, games/apps use, etc.

Thank you. That is all.

[blacksapphire08]

Well battery size has been increasing slowly over time. The reason manufacturer's dont put bigger batteries in new phones is because they have to balance price, performance, and design. It gets more complicated than that but you get the idea. 1800mAh is a pretty good size battery.

[prinsesa8]

It would be sweet if they can put in a battery that will truly last for at least 24 hours with regular use of texting, emails and calls with occasional web browsing, games or videos.

[shannon_au]

May be the current technology can't guarantee a reliable, light-weight, and cheap one.

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[JohnAlpha]

I think that physical size is the most predominate factor. Everyone wants incredibly thin phones, and it's tough to make those while also packing a huge battery in them. Batteries are slowly improving (current devices are far better off than my original Evo 4G), but they just haven't advanced as quickly as the rest of the technology in phones.

More disconcerting to me than slow improvements in battery life is the trend toward non-removable batteries.

[harrisonford265]

I don't know, may be they are just not able to make such a big battery for mobile.

[rlb]

Motorola did it with the RAZR Maxx. Phone is still thin and light. I guarantee most people would gladly trade an extra 1-2 mm for a 3,300 mAh battery.

[Ry]

Motorola did it with the RAZR Maxx. Phone is still thin and light. I guarantee most people would gladly trade an extra 1-2 mm for a 3,300 mAh battery.

Exactly.

[Ry]

More disconcerting to me than slow improvements in battery life is the trend toward non-removable batteries.

IMO, the trend of non-removable batteries is so that manufacturers can increase battery size without significantly increasing the physical size of the overall device.

[JayWill]

Battery capacity has been creeping up slowly. It seems to me that manufacturers and chip makers are focusing on power efficiency and heat reduction in the chips rather than greatly increasing battery sizes. More with less ya know?

[rbess1965]

On my maxx right now. Still amazed with how thin it is.

[Ningboren]

If Motorola can do it, all other phone makers should be able to make it!

[goliath602]

I'd more than gladly trade a removable battery for a non removable one and 2mm for a 3500mAh+ battery.

[rlb]

I guarantee that if a manufacturer made a phone with a 4.0"-4.3" display, 3,000+ mAh battery, and a Tegra 3 or A15 chip, it would easily be the best selling android phone. Most normal people(not the enthusiasts here) don't want 4.5"+ screens. 4.0-4.3" is the sweetspot. They are being forced to get them since most new phones have 4.5"+ screens. Anything below that size is usually a lower spec phone. So far the only phone I've read about with these specs is the Motorola Atrix 3.

[Obelix25860]

Battery technology lags celphone technology. Cell phone technology has outpaced bettery development since forever (my very first cel phone - in 1995 would last ~4 hours!). Look at the technology in batteries (Li-ion) ... I've had that in my cel phone since around 1998 with an old motorola flip phone ... everything else has changed (IPS LCDs, OLEDs, multi cores, etc.) but batteries.

Same issue in hybrid cars ... battery technology is just way behind the rest ... and the issue with increase mAH is more weight than size. Have you seen the heft of a 3,000 mAH battery? Makes any phone pretty heavy in your pocket ...

[rlb]

Have you seen the RAZR Maxx? Its 3,300 mAh battery adds only 0.6 oz and less than 2 mm. It is one of the thinnest and lightest phones on the market.

[cordsig79]

If a 1500 mAh battery melts/catches fire, its alot less damaging than say a 3000 mAh plus battery........

I mean we see these stories......whose to believe a malfuncitoning battery of that size could not negatively effect a plane in flight etc....

Conservative precautions...

I hear the laser separation of Lithium Ion batteries makes them lighter and 30% more efficent too...

[litlprince]

they should focus of creating a better battery. I know i read a few stories of them doing so. Trying to make a battery that takes only a minute or two to charge. THats the type of tech we need to develop. I mean if the battery is the most limiting factor for modern technology its time we reinvent it.
But things like this are easier said then done. This is just the ramblings of a happy go lucky wishful thinking consumer.

[3rdpig]

Motorola did it with the RAZR Maxx. Phone is still thin and light. I guarantee most people would gladly trade an extra 1-2 mm for a 3,300 mAh battery.

I routinely trade between 5 and 7 mm for a 3,300 to 4000 mAh battery. Thickness isn't a big deal to me, in fact it makes the phone easier for me to handle in my oversized paws. Battery life is a huge problem, I hate having to take the phone out of the case and swap batteries multiple times a day, then charge them all when I get home so I almost always go for the largest extended battery I can get.

[mty msi]

I would love to use a 3000+ mAh battery but I use a carrying case with a belt clip so it's one or the other and I won't forgo the belt clip. I agree that a lot of buyers wouldn't care about the increased size or weight of an increased capacity battery. I think if a phone maker would develop a model using both standard size and increased battery capacity size they would sell more of the increased battery size than the standard. I think the vast majority of users would accept the increased size/weight for vastly longer battery life as battery life is truly the limiting factor in smartphones today.

[_Severability_]

Upselling, profits and after market Upgrades rule this process imho.. My VM OV stock has a bigger battery than the stock Triumph ???

Makes no sense so other than the battery size limits.. 3mm for more than twice the capacity it has now would turn me on.. Slim is in and greed is good or so they tell me, Nuff said : )

[copasetic]

Exactly.

And most of us who have one don't care that the battery's not removable either. By doing this they cut down on even more thickness. iPhone people can't change their battery and I suppose they built a bridge and got over it. I almost wish they had made it as thick as the camera portion of it so it would have been smooth all the way back and added even more space to the battery. In fact, my only reason for moving to android at all was because the Maxx had such a big battery. As the next gen of LTE chips get more efficient this will likely be less of an issue.

[Serial Fordicator]

There is a new battery technology that will be out. I don't know when, but it basically last 10 times longer and charges faster. Basically, they are adding thousands of tiny holes to increase ion movement.

[JustinF#CB]

6 or so months ago I gave up my Android phone for an iPhone. I NEED my phone to be up 24/7 for work. My last couple Android phones just weren't cutting it...light to medium usage of the phone and the battery would be dead by the time I left the office, but I'm still on call the rest of the night. I went with an iPhone 'cause I saw my wife using hers constantly throughout the day, screen brightness on the fullest setting, wifi on all day even when there were no hotspots around, bluetooth also on all day...she'd get home after work and still have 40-50% of her battery left.

So now I have an iPhone...battery is what I expected it to be. It lasts me all day plus some. No complaints there at all. But man do I miss Android!! So I see Motorla's Razr Maxx gets great battery life, but the thing is so darn big. I keep my phone in my pocket and that thing is just too big. Otherwise I like it. I'm really hoping other manufacturers go the route Motorola did with the Maxx...big battery (I don't care if it's not removable as long as I can get through a whole day!) but with a 4" screen. For me that's the sweet spot...4".

[z71kris]

I think people have been hitting it, Moto did with the Maxx, no doubt the best stock battery phone out, and I think if youre doing non removable batteries, you need to have at 2200-2500 until the new battery tech comes out.