[k6tcher]

Is there a spring show for CDMA phones?

Yes, but it is really a late spring / early summer event and open to all network carriers. It is the CTIA Wireless trade expo in New Orleans. Should be in early May. I am giving Verizon one last chance to announce something worth waiting for. They are listed as an exhibitor for CTIA.

But wouldn't it be a kick in the nuts, as soon as you switch to maybe ATT for the HTC One X, then a month later Verizon announce their One X with better spec's, or a newer next gen HTC phone being much better.

Yeah. It would. But if they are going to announce anything worth holding out for, they better announce it by the CTIA convention. But you know, even if I left Verizon a few months from now, there are two other networks in my region with exactly the same (maybe even better) coverage. I guess what I am saying is that if I switched, I could live with the switch better than waiting and hoping Verizon will come through with something for another year (I have been waiting a year to upgrade on Verizon). I guess I am just frustrated.

EDIT @Synycalwon : I guess I was writing my post while you were posting. Sorry.

[axne1]

Absolutely not. I said, "EVERY phone currently on Verizon is last-year tech." Tell me how that is backwards. Tegra quad-core chips, the S4, and the new Exynos quad chips were in development last year. The S4 and Tegra processors were in development at least since last spring. Instead of pacing phone releases, Verizon launched The Galaxy Nexus, Droid 4, Droid Razr, Razr Maxx, LG Spectrum, LG Lucid, Illusion, Rezound, all within 4 months using dual-core processors and many with cheap screens and cameras. Now granted many of these phones were launched when access to proper components was impossible to achieve. However instead of shoving 8 Android phones in 4 months down Verizon customer's throats, they could have paced their launches out better with improved components such as screens and processors. It seems like they were purposely trying to get as many phones out with last year's specifications as fast as possible before the wave of new "current-tech" phones hit the market. The first dual-core phone was released in January 2011 and surprise, surprise, it wasn't on Verizon. Verizon didn't get "current" with dual-core phones until the end of May, 2011 with the X2. That was 4 months later. What were they doing for 4 months? Seeing if dual-core phones were a fad? Verizon has a history of being last with new tech in phones. So how is it backwards that every phone on Verizon is last year's tech or that if Verizon's current lineup is so disappointing from a tech perspective some are thinking of switching networks?

Dual core phones ARE last year's tech. And I fail to see how the Droid 1 and Incredible 1 are relevant to my point.
Come on. Don't you want Verizon to get on the ball and bring some real hardware to the table worth $300 and 24 months of your life?

No. Not all people were asking this. I was wondering why they were pushing so many phones in such a short time that were based on 2010 developed processors. You do know dual core processors were developed in 2010, right?

Okay then. iPhone people do not obsess over new tech like a few of us Android users do. We are the minority in both realms of iPhone and Android users.

That's why I picked up my galaxy nexus

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[XDCX]

As I've mentioned before, I'm not in the wireless industry but I think I have a sense for how corporate people think.

My bet is most customers like what they see with the HTC One S and the One X and wish that they could just buy them regardless of carrier. This seems to be what HTC wants too since it would allow them to build the "One" brand.

That said, the carriers don't care what HTC wants and they're convinced their customers are so dumb that when it comes time to replace their old phone they'll look for a new phone that has the same name. That might explain why Sprint walked away from the One X so they could have an EVO LTE instead.

If that's the case, then my bet is Verizon will re-brand the One S as the next Droid Incredible and they'll re-brand the One X as the next Thunderbolt. Like Sprint, Verizon will likely have HTC make minor changes to make their phones different from the One S and the One X.

I bet Verizon has a lot of Thunderbolt customers who are not ready for an upgrade yet.... It may be a long wait for the Verizon version of the One X.

[axne1]

As I've mentioned before, I'm not in the wireless industry but I think I have a sense for how corporate people think.

My bet is most customers like what they see with the HTC One S and the One X and wish that they could just buy them regardless of carrier. This seems to be what HTC wants too since it would allow them to build the "One" brand.

That said, the carriers don't care what HTC wants and they're convinced their customers are so dumb that when it comes time to replace their old phone they'll look for a new phone that has the same name. That might explain why Sprint walked away from the One X so they could have an EVO LTE instead.

If that's the case, then my bet is Verizon will re-brand the One S as the next Droid Incredible and they'll re-brand the One X as the next Thunderbolt. Like Sprint, Verizon will likely have HTC make minor changes to make their phones different from the One S and the One X.

I bet Verizon has a lot of Thunderbolt customers who are not ready for an upgrade yet.... It may be a long wait for the Verizon version of the One X.

Wow looks like you got a lot of sense. You could'nt have said it better. :beer:

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[Crispy]

Sprint Evo 4G user here and considering the switch to Verizon as they have better coverage in my area, and more importantly, working LTE.

But of course Sprint once again has the best Android phones. Nexus is already outdated (Sprint will have it soon as well) and who knows when something comparable to 4GLTE or the GSIII will even come to VZW.

Coverage is important but so is the device.

[Premium1]

Sprint Evo 4G user here and considering the switch to Verizon as they have better coverage in my area, and more importantly, working LTE.

But of course Sprint once again has the best Android phones. Nexus is already outdated (Sprint will have it soon as well) and who knows when something comparable to 4GLTE or the GSIII will even come to VZW.

Coverage is important but so is the device.

If one has better coverage that should be priority #1 because after all no matter how great the phone is, if there is crappy coverage that awesome phone turns into a crappy phone.

[spartanguy81]

If one has better coverage that should be priority #1 because after all no matter how great the phone is, if there is crappy coverage that awesome phone turns into a crappy phone.

Coverage is always number one. I'm still rocking my Thunderbolt off contract waiting for something to come along....49 dollar rezound is enticing, but I don't mind spending a few dollars for a top shelf phone, if only Verizon would offer me one...

[matt0715]

Coverage is always number one. I'm still rocking my Thunderbolt off contract waiting for something to come along....49 dollar rezound is enticing, but I don't mind spending a few dollars for a top shelf phone, if only Verizon would offer me one...

I am also still on my thunderbolt and its better than ever with custom roms, my thunderbolt is good enough to keep me waiting for verizons next high end phone, personally none of the phones on verizon now are much better than the tbolt, I will paitently wait for HTC and Samsungs next flagships to come out (i dont care much for moto) and will battle them out to see whats better, its most likely not that far away!

[trivor]

MWC didn't announce any cdma phones last year either that is a gsm event..... Then go jump to at&t. Nobody is making you stay with verizon if the phones are better go with what works for you.

CTIA is normally where the CDMA phones get announced - Spring event. And VZW was at the top of the World Dec 2012 - Razr, Rezound, Galaxy Nexus. This all goes in cycles. Buy what you like when it's available - guaranteed something better in 3 months.

[trivor]

Sprint Evo 4G user here and considering the switch to Verizon as they have better coverage in my area, and more importantly, working LTE.

But of course Sprint once again has the best Android phones. Nexus is already outdated (Sprint will have it soon as well) and who knows when something comparable to 4GLTE or the GSIII will even come to VZW.

Coverage is important but so is the device.

Disagree - Coverage is #1 BY A LARGE MARGIN. It doesn't do you much good to have a kick **** phone (look at all the Sprint WIMAX phones that were basically 3G). I am on VZW for the coverage and I'll find the best phone for my needs on that carrier. I'm in a rural area and just bought (6 mos ago) a Dinc 2 because I don't expect to have LTE until 2013 at the earliest and I also want to wait for 28 nm chipsets (which the new S4 from Qualcomm has) to get better battery life. You won't see Tegra anything and LTE on any US phone because they don't work well. That is why the ATT One X will have an S4 (not Tegra 3). Anyone who thinks they NEED quad core on a phone is really getting way too caught up in specs. NOW, if you talking Quad Core and Gaming on a 1080P tablet (like the Transformer Infinity) that's a different story.

[trivor]

Verizon may have a phone better than the EVO4GLTE this year but it will be several months AFTER every other carrier has had it and probably cost an extra $100 at launch. And it doesn't matter if the phone is new on Verizon the tech aspect of the device will be old and late to the game... and this has ALWAYS been Verizon's problem with hardware.

Everyone assumes that Verizon has the best coverage EVERYWHERE. That is not always true. If networks are comparable, why STAY with a particular carrier? Go for the hardware YOU want to live with for 2 years even if it means going with Sprint or AT&T. The network doesn't matter too much if another carrier with comparable coverage in your area (always) has better phones available. Fact is Verizon's selection has sucked for almost a year now. Any phone currently from Verizon can be bested in one way or another from phones on other carriers (hence why their selection sucks). Of course most of what everyone is saying in this thread is subjective, me included. However, the last thing anyone should do is stick with Verizon just because it *is* Verizon. Do some research and spend your hard-earned money on what YOU will enjoy in your pocket for two years.

I tried AT&T and was more impressed with their selection, coverage, and willingness to treat me better than Verizon ever did. I just couldn't afford two bills right now and my service on my wife's line on Verizon isn't up for another year. But after this year, I am 95% sure I will become an AT&T customer and I am not worried about phone selection when this happens. I KNOW AT&T will have a wonderful selection next year that will surpass Verizon's selection. They have for about 2 years in a row now and it is because of the GSM network they operate.

Do research.

Don't be afraid of change.

Ultimately, be happy with your purchase.

I wish you well on ATT. Also, if you travel much then TMO or Sprint are pretty much non-starters - I don't care how PRETTY their phones are. I have actually had great customer service on Verizon (never more than a couple of minutes on hold, always speak English) and are always pleasant and respectful. There are a very few areas of the country where Verizon has poor coverage BUT they are few and far between. Network coverage is #1 and if I have to wait a few months for a higher end phone to reach Verizon so be it. I've usually managed to make my phones last 2+ years and right now I'm quite happy with my single core, WVGA, 4", 3G Dinc 2 that will be getting ICS in the next few months. I do think by the end of the year I'm going to be tempted by some of the new dual core LTE phones with a qHD or 720P display. I'm still not interested in anything larger than 4.3" (with actually still liking the feel of 4.0"). If the One S comes to VZW (Incredible 4G April 26) that looks awfully tempting and by the fall it should be available at a decent price (say less than $100). JMHO/YMMMV.

[k6tcher]

Coverage is important but so is the device.

Since this thread is about Verizon's lack of announcing high-end phones, I think your statement nailed it.

I agree an adequate network is important... and almost everyone on this thread assumes Verizon to be the best (not always true). However, why switch to Verizon RIGHT NOW when their lineup is as sad as it is? You are better off waiting to switch to Verizon AFTER they finally announce a high-end, up-to-date spec'd phone.

Those of us on Verizon who care about a phone that will be "future proof" are waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting on them to announce a phone worth spending over $1500 on (2-year contract price). What good does it do you to stay/switch to Verizon if you have buyer's remorse on your phone purchase? And, YES, most us do care about specs in our next phone or the ones replying in this thread wouldn't even care to read this thread would they?

I would say phone selection is EQUALLY as important as the network you use. If it is all about the network, and only the network, then get a dumbphone and save $$$... since that is what you are most concerned about anyway... a working phone. If the network AND phone matter equally, you are likely to be concerned about Verizon's current pitiful lineup and lack of announcements.

[k6tcher]

I wish you well on ATT. Also, if you travel much then TMO or Sprint are pretty much non-starters - I don't care how PRETTY their phones are. I have actually had great customer service on Verizon (never more than a couple of minutes on hold, always speak English) and are always pleasant and respectful. There are a very few areas of the country where Verizon has poor coverage BUT they are few and far between. Network coverage is #1 and if I have to wait a few months for a higher end phone to reach Verizon so be it. I've usually managed to make my phones last 2+ years and right now I'm quite happy with my single core, WVGA, 4", 3G Dinc 2 that will be getting ICS in the next few months. I do think by the end of the year I'm going to be tempted by some of the new dual core LTE phones with a qHD or 720P display. I'm still not interested in anything larger than 4.3" (with actually still liking the feel of 4.0"). If the One S comes to VZW (Incredible 4G April 26) that looks awfully tempting and by the fall it should be available at a decent price (say less than $100). JMHO/YMMMV.

I hope you find the device that suits your needs and desires on Verizon. I have been waiting for a year to upgrade. And if I stick with Verizon, seems like my total wait time will be about 1 1/2 years since my upgrade went live.
I do not travel. The area I live in has BETTER coverage with AT&T and I know I am in the minority on this forum. But that doesn't change the fact that Verizon's network (for me) is second rate to AT&T. The sad part is, it use to always NEVER be like this.
Verizon's customer service has not been bad, but not good. I have to drive an hour to get to their closest corporate store for assistance. I have always felt like just a number and a $ (dollar sign) to them. When I briefly switched to AT&T for the Note, they let me have it for $150 and threw in the Microcell tower for $50. I saved $300 on those two purchases alone. Verizon has NEVER offered me a deal or a discount other than the contractual ones I have agreed to and I have been with them for over 12 years.
Am I a Verizon "hater?" not exactly, but I sure am not in love with them anymore.
Also, there is state funding coming to my area for 4G network expansion... guess which network gets the funds in my area? The one who owns the physical towers.... AT&T. My area will not have 4G with Verizon (if ever) for well past their self imposed 2013-14 deadline.

[Premium1]

Since this thread is about Verizon's lack of announcing high-end phones, I think your statement nailed it.

I agree an adequate network is important... and almost everyone on this thread assumes Verizon to be the best (not always true). However, why switch to Verizon RIGHT NOW when their lineup is as sad as it is? You are better off waiting to switch to Verizon AFTER they finally announce a high-end, up-to-date spec'd phone.

Those of us on Verizon who care about a phone that will be "future proof" are waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting on them to announce a phone worth spending over $1500 on (2-year contract price). What good does it do you to stay/switch to Verizon if you have buyer's remorse on your phone purchase? And, YES, most us do care about specs in our next phone or the ones replying in this thread wouldn't even care to read this thread would they?

I would say phone selection is EQUALLY as important as the network you use. If it is all about the network, and only the network, then get a dumbphone and save $$$... since that is what you are most concerned about anyway... a working phone. If the network AND phone matter equally, you are likely to be concerned about Verizon's current pitiful lineup and lack of announcements.

So the current phones verizon has can't do the exact same things that these "better phones" on other networks can do? What exactly other than maybe gaming can these other phones do better than the phones currently on verizon? load web pages faster? doubt it especially with lte, maybe is .0005 sec quicker when opening an app? To me it seems like unless you have something to come back with that the current phones can't do you just are ing. Plus you said at&t has better phones yet you won't switch just come on here and complain??? SO what can't verizon's "lackluster, pitiful" phones do?

[kjjb0204]

Absolutely not. I said, "EVERY phone currently on Verizon is last-year tech." Tell me how that is backwards. Tegra quad-core chips, the S4, and the new Exynos quad chips were in development last year. The S4 and Tegra processors were in development at least since last spring. Instead of pacing phone releases, Verizon launched The Galaxy Nexus, Droid 4, Droid Razr, Razr Maxx, LG Spectrum, LG Lucid, Illusion, Rezound, all within 4 months using dual-core processors and many with cheap screens and cameras. Now granted many of these phones were launched when access to proper components was impossible to achieve. However instead of shoving 8 Android phones in 4 months down Verizon customer's throats, they could have paced their launches out better with improved components such as screens and processors. It seems like they were purposely trying to get as many phones out with last year's specifications as fast as possible before the wave of new "current-tech" phones hit the market. The first dual-core phone was released in January 2011 and surprise, surprise, it wasn't on Verizon. Verizon didn't get "current" with dual-core phones until the end of May, 2011 with the X2. That was 4 months later. What were they doing for 4 months? Seeing if dual-core phones were a fad? Verizon has a history of being last with new tech in phones. So how is it backwards that every phone on Verizon is last year's tech or that if Verizon's current lineup is so disappointing from a tech perspective some are thinking of switching networks?

Dual core phones ARE last year's tech. And I fail to see how the Droid 1 and Incredible 1 are relevant to my point.
Come on. Don't you want Verizon to get on the ball and bring some real hardware to the table worth $300 and 24 months of your life?

No. Not all people were asking this. I was wondering why they were pushing so many phones in such a short time that were based on 2010 developed processors. You do know dual core processors were developed in 2010, right?

Okay then. iPhone people do not obsess over new tech like a few of us Android users do. We are the minority in both realms of iPhone and Android users.

So you are definitely one of those tech geeks I mentioned. If you think dual core is last years' technology, you will never be satisfied. Product in development does not mean it's todays technology. Today's tech is what's available for regular consumers.

[k6tcher]

So the current phones verizon has can't do the exact same things that these "better phones" on other networks can do? What exactly other than maybe gaming can these other phones do better than the phones currently on verizon? load web pages faster? doubt it especially with lte, maybe is .0005 sec quicker when opening an app? To me it seems like unless you have something to come back with that the current phones can't do you just are ing. Plus you said at&t has better phones yet you won't switch just come on here and complain??? SO what can't verizon's "lackluster, pitiful" phones do?

If you would stop personally attacking people on this forum and actually read the posts they have made that you replied in, you would have read where I said I am still on contract with Verizon. I did switch to at&t but had to cancel because I suddenly couldn't afford the two bills. I also said that in about a year (after my wife's Verizon contract is up) I am 95% sure I will switch. But instead of reading what I have posted (not just this thread but several other threads as well), you prefer to personally attack when my comments have been TOPIC related and never personally disparaging to another poster on this forum. Once again, I am refering to several threads where you have done this. You are the first on this forum to actually be rude, disrespectful, and just plain ugly in your demeanor and tackless postings to me.

[Premium1]

If you would stop personally attacking people on this forum and actually read the posts they have made that you replied in, you would have read where I said I am still on contract with Verizon. I did switch to at&t but had to cancel because I suddenly couldn't afford the two bills. I also said that in about a year (after my wife's Verizon contract is up) I am 95% sure I will switch. But instead of reading what I have posted (not just this thread but several other threads as well), you prefer to personally attack when my comments have been TOPIC related and never personally disparaging to another poster on this forum. Once again, I am refering to several threads where you have done this. You are the first on this forum to actually be rude, disrespectful, and just plain ugly in your demeanor and tackless postings to me.

Actually I asked what the phones on verizon can't do. You getting worked up thinking people are "attacking you" when it really isn't. Like in my post what can't verizon's phones do that at&t ones can?????

[k6tcher]

Actually I asked what the phones on verizon can't do. You getting worked up thinking people are "attacking you" when it really isn't. Like in my post what can't verizon's phones do that at&t ones can?????

Not "people" attacking me. . . just YOU. . . in multiple threads.

There are multiple reasons I have ALREADY stated, in several threads YOU have already posted in, as to why the current selection on Verizon is unsuitable to myself and many more. Re-read, friend.

And with that, I am done with you sir, good day. I said, "GOOD DAY!"

[Premium1]

Not "people" attacking me. . . just YOU. . . in multiple threads.

There are multiple reasons I have ALREADY stated, in several threads YOU have already posted in, as to why the current selection on Verizon is unsuitable to myself and many more. Re-read, friend.

And with that, I am done with you sir, good day. I said, "GOOD DAY!"

You said you need larger higher res screens and there are multiple 4.3+ phones on verizon. Once again anything else you would like to deflect?

[ragnarokx]

I'm going to assume this problem has resolved itself. But for the future: enough with the fighting/unproductive arguing. I'll be sure to keep a look out for those "other threads" that were mentioned.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[trivor]

I hope you find the device that suits your needs and desires on Verizon. I have been waiting for a year to upgrade. And if I stick with Verizon, seems like my total wait time will be about 1 1/2 years since my upgrade went live.
I do not travel. The area I live in has BETTER coverage with AT&T and I know I am in the minority on this forum. But that doesn't change the fact that Verizon's network (for me) is second rate to AT&T. The sad part is, it use to always NEVER be like this.
Verizon's customer service has not been bad, but not good. I have to drive an hour to get to their closest corporate store for assistance. I have always felt like just a number and a $ (dollar sign) to them. When I briefly switched to AT&T for the Note, they let me have it for $150 and threw in the Microcell tower for $50. I saved $300 on those two purchases alone. Verizon has NEVER offered me a deal or a discount other than the contractual ones I have agreed to and I have been with them for over 12 years.
Am I a Verizon "hater?" not exactly, but I sure am not in love with them anymore.
Also, there is state funding coming to my area for 4G network expansion... guess which network gets the funds in my area? The one who owns the physical towers.... AT&T. My area will not have 4G with Verizon (if ever) for well past their self imposed 2013-14 deadline.

Then go - it looks like you can't beat the One X. If you want WP7 the Lumia 900 with LTE looks great. What are you waiting for.

[k6tcher]

Then go - it looks like you can't beat the One X. If you want WP7 the Lumia 900 with LTE looks great. What are you waiting for.

Because my wife still has a year left on her Verizon contract. Something came up and I couldn't afford the two bills I had when I briefly had the Note on AT&T, so I had to cancel with AT&T. I am holding out little hope that Verizon would come through for a change with a phone like the Note or OneX or maybe the SGSIII. But I am afraid it is a pipe dream.

[trekmario]

What good is a high end phone if you dont have the power to use it. I am on a droid bionic but i dont have 4g or wont be getting in my area for 2yrs. So when 4g goes down (alot) im stuck. Even in my 3g area. This is crap. So now vzn is getting rid of 3g phones. Time to switch?

[Premium1]

What good is a high end phone if you dont have the power to use it. I am on a droid bionic but i dont have 4g or wont be getting in my area for 2yrs. So when 4g goes down (alot) im stuck. Even in my 3g area. This is crap. So now vzn is getting rid of 3g phones. Time to switch?

Since you are in a 3g only area if you put it on 3g only it won't go down when lte goes down.

[trekmario]

Since you are in a 3g only area if you put it on 3g only it won't go down when lte goes down.

No it does still. Ive complained to vzn and they are working on the issue . So that means next phone they will fix it.