Are phones getting too big?

**nrm5110** · 01-31-2013, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by cormaster628

The problem is the flagship devices are only coming in xxl sizes now. You can get smaller phones but you have to settle for dated hardware. Look no further than the gs3 mini, and you can see that it's not a galaxy s3 at all.

They just need both, simply put.

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Why? If they are making piles upon piles of cash why bother.

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**Jim_in_VA** · 01-31-2013, 05:39 PM

The older I get the bigger the screen I need

**cormaster628** · 01-31-2013, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Why? If they are making piles upon piles of cash why bother.

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I just think a gs3 mini should have a quad core exynos, 12mp rear camera and a 720p super amoled 4 inch display like the real deal, or maybe it shouldn't be called a gs3 mini. Samsung makes too much junk anyway, for every galaxy s you have 20 galaxy junks

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Ry · 01-31-2013, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Why? If they are making piles upon piles of cash why bother.

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Same reply would apply to people asking for things like more internal storage, or expandable memory, etc.

**nrm5110** · 01-31-2013, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by cormaster628

I just think a gs3 mini should have a quad core exynos, 12mp rear camera and a 720p super amoled 4 inch display like the real deal, or maybe it shouldn't be called a gs3 mini. Samsung makes too much junk anyway, for every galaxy s you have 20 galaxy junks

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OK that didn't answer the question. Again if they are making ridiculous stacks of cash on the s3 and note 2 why bother both are hits what logical sense does it make to pay to start a manufacturing process to compete with their two top sellers.

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**NoYankees44** · 01-31-2013, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

OK that didn't answer the question. Again if they are making ridiculous stacks of cash on the s3 and note 2 why bother both are hits what logical sense does it make to pay to start a manufacturing process to compete with their two top sellers.

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The incentive would be to make money on the ppl that would prefer such a device. But until someone makes such a device to compete, no one will know how lucrative that market is. It is a chicken or the egg type of thing.

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**nrm5110** · 01-31-2013, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by NoYankees44

The incentive would be to make money on the ppl that would prefer such a device. But until someone makes such a device to compete, no one will know how lucrative that market is. It is a chicken or the egg type of thing.

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So its clearly not lucrative enough or else they would try.

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**NoYankees44** · 01-31-2013, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

So its clearly not lucrative enough or else they would try.

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There is nothing to say whether it is lucrative or not. Ever sense the one X came out, every high end device has been larger than before with nothing smaller to directly compare. No one has tried this market sense everything went large.

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**nrm5110** · 01-31-2013, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by NoYankees44

There is nothing to say whether it is lucrative or not. Ever sense the one X came out, every high end device has been larger than before with nothing smaller to directly compare. No one has tried this market sense everything went large.

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OK first off it's since not sense.

Second if a company thought there was money to be made why would the avoid it like the plague.

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**cormaster628** · 01-31-2013, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

OK that didn't answer the question. Again if they are making ridiculous stacks of cash on the s3 and note 2 why bother both are hits what logical sense does it make to pay to start a manufacturing process to compete with their two top sellers.

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Uh... Because I don't wanna carry a 46 inch plasma tv in my pocket? Because there is still a market for smaller phones? Seriously I must of missed something, apparently iphones don't sell anymore because there is no market for phones that don't give you more picture than your high definition television. Oh wait they still are selling!

I can respect that people want larger devices but seriously I don't see how problem with multiple sizes. It just like the clothing industry, same shirt, 50 different sizes, whats the issue here?

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Ry · 01-31-2013, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by cormaster628

Uh... Because I don't wanna carry a 46 inch plasma tv in my pocket? Because there is still a market for smaller phones? Seriously I must of missed something, apparently iphones don't sell anymore because there is no market for phones that don't give you more picture than your high definition television. Oh wait they still are selling!

I can respect that people want larger devices but seriously I don't see how problem with multiple sizes. It just like the clothing industry, same shirt, 50 different sizes, whats the issue here?

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It's okay if some people need to compensate.

Out of principle, my next phone will probably either be the DROID RAZR M or it's "normal"-sized successor.

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**NoYankees44** · 01-31-2013, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

OK first off it's since not sense.

Second if a company thought there was money to be made why would the avoid it like the plague.

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Simple, profit margins. Larger devices are cheaper to make. And when all the competition conforms to neglect a possible market section, no one has to worry about using sales.

What is it going to take to overcome this? Someone has to take a risk and the market will have to show itself. Who will do this? No idea. Will it even flesh out? No idea. I think it will because of all the ppl I know that express their want for a small high end device, but that does not mean it will or it won't.

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**vrwk** · 01-31-2013, 07:42 PM

I don't detest the idea of a bigger screen phones, however I wouldn't want anything the size of a Note because I like my phones on the smaller, traditional scale. I think I can trust companies to come out with reasonably sized phones and there will be something out there for everyone.

**cormaster628** · 01-31-2013, 08:12 PM

I just like one hand usage, that's my issue

You use a note your using 2 hands.

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**The Real X Dawg** · 01-31-2013, 09:10 PM

I'm always using my Note one handed if I'm not using the S-Pen.

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**RicanMedic78** · 01-31-2013, 09:32 PM

My gut tells me that blackberry is on the right track and will sell bb10 very well. And with ppl looking to apple and maybe even blackberry for high end more balanced devices, this is where i think the market with change. Since android manufacturers are not moving here, a lot of ppl will move else where. I'm willing to predict the end of the phablet by the end of 2014, 2015 the latest.

And this notion that manufacturers know everything and only put out the right product all the time is ridiculous! Just ask Palm... Ask Motorola if they made any mistakes through the years. Ask RIM if they dropped the ball a few times. Bottom line, companies are not just born knowing everything! And realistically, this smaller / high end device segment could very well be an untapped and lucrative market!

Android OEMs like Samsung could just have their eye off the ball here and be missing a market segment that could really put them over the top!

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**badbrad17** · 02-01-2013, 01:17 AM

I love that we have the Note 2 I think you may have misinterpreted my post.

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**badbrad17** · 02-01-2013, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by RicanMedic78

My gut tells me that blackberry is on the right track and will sell bb10 very well. And with ppl looking to apple and maybe even blackberry for high end more balanced devices, this is where i think the market with change. Since android manufacturers are not moving here, a lot of ppl will move else where. I'm willing to predict the end of the phablet by the end of 2014, 2015 the latest.

And this notion that manufacturers know everything and only put out the right product all the time is ridiculous! Just ask Palm... Ask Motorola if they made any mistakes through the years. Ask RIM if they dropped the ball a few times. Bottom line, companies are not just born knowing everything! And realistically, this smaller / high end device segment could very well be an untapped and lucrative market!

Android OEMs like Samsung could just have their eye off the ball here and be missing a market segment that could really put them over the top!

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I really think that the market is limitless. Size is different for everyone, but I hope we just continue to have good variety in size without compromising features.

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**djw39** · 02-01-2013, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

OK that didn't answer the question. Again if they are making ridiculous stacks of cash on the s3 and note 2 why bother both are hits what logical sense does it make to pay to start a manufacturing process to compete with their two top sellers.

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To make even more money by serving a group of customers who are presently dissatisfied. Is that what you wanted to hear?

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**djw39** · 02-01-2013, 08:56 AM

Here come the HTC M4 leaks! 4.3", 720p. Unfortunately I predict it will be an exclusive on T mobile or something similarly useless...

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**nrm5110** · 02-01-2013, 08:59 AM

Finally now you guys can quit whining about not having a miniature.

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**RicanMedic78** · 02-01-2013, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Finally now you guys can quit whining about not having a miniature.

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Your forum tone speaks as if you hate our desire for smaller devices. Trying to see the psychology behind that one, but anyhow.... That's not for this thread anyway. Moving along...

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**The Real X Dawg** · 02-01-2013, 12:51 PM

Finally someone puts a good screen and camera in a smaller phone! HTC better learn from Samsung about marketing.

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**cormaster628** · 02-01-2013, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Finally now you guys can quit whining about not having a miniature.

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We get it, you like large phones, why do you care what everyone else wants?

M4 does sound nice, a step in the right direction finally!

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**The Real X Dawg** · 02-01-2013, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Finally now you guys can quit whining about not having a miniature.

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No different than people wanting other features. At least smaller devices makes more sense than complaining about locked boot loaders and stock Android on non Nexus devices.

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