[Blind item] Next Nexus will be Motorola

**Phil Nickinson** · 01-14-2011, 01:14 AM

Can't talk source, and this basically has a one-in-three (or four) shot at being right, but there you go.

**kingsway8605** · 01-14-2011, 01:17 AM

Well moto had the droid, htc had the n1, samsung had the ns, yep, seems like it is moto's turn again.

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**Droid800** · 01-14-2011, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by kingsway8605

Well moto had the droid, htc had the n1, samsung had the ns, yep, seems like it is moto's turn again.

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Well, Moto hasn't had a Nexus device yet, so they'd be the most likely choice. That, and Moto really helped Android take off with the everyday consumer, so it'd make the most sense.

**.46caliber** · 01-14-2011, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by Phil Nickinson

Can't talk source, and this basically has a one-in-three (or four) shot at being right, but there you go.

Motorola producing an AOSP device?!?!? I'd like to see it Phil, I really would, but I can't help but being uber skeptical. It seems they like their Blur so much, they'd put it into a lunch box if they could. I don't want to get excited about them hopping on board the Nexus project just yet.

**Balthazar B** · 01-14-2011, 07:12 AM

Only problem is that it would most likely be a TMo-exclusive phone.

**blopez24** · 01-14-2011, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Balthazar B

Only problem is that it would most likely be a TMo-exclusive phone.

Seeing how motorola has no high end devices on T-mobile i would say no. If it is Moto i can see it either on Verizon, or even AT&T now that the iphone isnt exclusive to its network anymore, what a way to draw out people away from verizons iphone. Or could it be thats what Sprint is going to announce ? a A Nexus 4G the first 4G pure goggle phone out there.

**baidya** · 01-14-2011, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Phil Nickinson

Can't talk source, and this basically has a one-in-three (or four) shot at being right, but there you go.

Any more details like possible timelines and which carrier...I assume it should be some time in summer 2011 to coincide with IceCream Sandwhich release....
If its going to be AT&T, I will totally skip atrix for that...

**deferom** · 01-14-2011, 03:56 PM

Makes some sense to me.

HTC and Samsung have had their turn, so another major partner would probably do the Nexus 3. The only major partners I can think of are LG and Motorola.

I'd love an AOSP Motorola phone.

**Baconator** · 01-14-2011, 04:50 PM

I bet this will be for t-mobile. They have had the first two nexus' so no doubt they will have the second one. Also I think google decides the carrier.

**Jerry Hildenbrand** · 01-14-2011, 04:58 PM

A bloat-free unlocked phone will never exist on Verizon. If this happens, it will launch on T-Mobile.

**dtboos** · 01-14-2011, 05:04 PM

I hope they do have the next one. And I hope it has AT&T bands

A next gen atrix type with vanilla android? Count me in!

**enzofall** · 01-14-2011, 05:37 PM

Phil...you little tease

...But thanks again for the info!

**tgaskill** · 01-14-2011, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Blopez21

Or could it be thats what Sprint is going to announce ? a A Nexus 4G the first 4G pure goggle phone out there.

I'd love to see that, but a bloat-free phone on Sprint seem unrealistic. They filled the Epic with bloat, which I promptly removed. I'll cross my fingers for an AOSP phone on Sprint, but I won't hold my breath.

**houserhythm** · 01-14-2011, 05:42 PM

God, I hope this is true!
Always loved the Moto build quality & materials (yes, even over HTC)... the locked down bootloaders & blur - not so much.

**AndroidMotion** · 01-14-2011, 05:48 PM

So, my theory:

Every Nexus (and previous dev devices like Dream/Sapphire) were originally meant for developers to help them develop on the newest platforms available:

G1 was the first Android device, Nexus 1 was the first device with 1GHz, 512MB RAM etc.

The Nexus S is a bit tricky, though. It´s basically a slightly improved Galaxy S. New features: NFC and Gyroscope (I know it was already in other Galaxy devices before).
So, why did Google launch the device? I think, they have an dual-core Nexus in the pipeline, which wouldn´t be ready in November/December. So they decided to develope the Nexus S (not that much work I guess

) to show the new features of Gingerbread which they wanted to release as early as possible.

Why haven´t they simple updated the Nexus One for demonstration purpose? Because it doesn´t support all new features. NFC etc.

Regarding the Motorola Nexus: Developer need next generation (dual-core, higher res...) phones to optimize their apps. Moto already developed two dual-core devices, Tegra2 is ready. Sounds logical to me.

But beside this, I still pray for an HTC dual-core phone in the very next months

**DarknesSx** · 01-14-2011, 05:55 PM

No. i won`t let this happen next Nexus is HTC. YES! AGAIN!! :P

High quality solid reliable phone is what the Nexus Project should be all about and HTC made an Awesome job with N1 why not do it again?!

**MercuryTYTN** · 01-14-2011, 05:55 PM

Dare I say: Nexus X? Never thought i'd say this but, Go Motorola!

**Baconator** · 01-14-2011, 05:58 PM

I can't wait but they better wait to release it because I barely got my Nexus S and I do not want to go but another one just yet. Another year maybe.

**DubA** · 01-14-2011, 06:01 PM

Damn it Jerry! Stop trying to wreck my dream. Anyway the OG was bloat-free!

**SaltyDawg** · 01-14-2011, 06:34 PM

I'm going to guess it will be like the Atrix. Only it will be vanilla Android, and when docked it will launch Chrome OS and Chrome web browser, instead of Moto Blur, Linux, and Firefox.

**Johnly** · 01-14-2011, 07:01 PM

Verizon had a bloat free Motorola once, and it hit the big times, even being a slider. It was "almost" pure Google, ha ha. I had one for a year, and it was sweet. Sounds like a roll of the dice........

**Jerry Hildenbrand** · 01-14-2011, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by DubA

Damn it Jerry! Stop trying to wreck my dream. Anyway the OG was bloat-free!

Originally Posted by Johnly

Verizon had a bloat free Motorola once, and it hit the big times, even being a slider. It was "almost" pure Google, ha ha. I had one for a year, and it was sweet. Sounds like a roll of the dice........

VVM, corp calendar, Verizon location services, etc. etc. Verizon has to keep this stuff off a Nexus phone. This they might be convinced to do if enough people want one.

And then there's the unlocked thing...I imagine some Russian CDMA networks would allow you to activate a Droid, but for the most part it's locked to Verizon. They aren't going to change this.

I'm thoroughly convinced these two things are what kept the Nexus One off Verizon and Sprint. I'm sure AT&T would have objected if they could have as well.

**flipdippy** · 01-14-2011, 08:12 PM

I pray the next nexus has a pico projector embedded. That would be a real gamechanger. Faster cpus and bumped up memory is not enough in 2011.

**Johnly** · 01-14-2011, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by gbhil

VVM, corp calendar, Verizon location services, etc. etc. Verizon has to keep this stuff off a Nexus phone. This they might be convinced to do if enough people want one.

And then there's the unlocked thing...I imagine some Russian CDMA networks would allow you to activate a Droid, but for the most part it's locked to Verizon. They aren't going to change this.

I'm thoroughly convinced these two things are what kept the Nexus One off Verizon and Sprint. I'm sure AT&T would have objected if they could have as well.

Now, the practice is making a comeback on smartphones.

But bloatware isn’t a feature in all smartphones. AT&T hasn’t piled extraneous software onto Apple’s iPhone. Motorola’s Droid phone ships with just the core applications. Google and T-Mobile resisted the bloatware impulse with the Nexus One.

So, why does bloatware suddenly seem to be multiplying on some Android devices? Android’s popularity means every few weeks a new device running the operating system hits the market. Wireless carriers and handset makers see the new devices as an opportunity to generate additional revenue.

“Ultimately revenue from data plans will reach the same level of saturation as voice services. So carriers see some of these services as an additional revenue stream,” says Golvin.

A little excerpt from engadget.

I say "almost" with the original droid. None of those apps had to run, (I don't even recall them trying to pop up) iPhone, Motorola Droid 1, nexus series, great examples of Google phones. Yes, only the nexus is pure, but they can't get that on a big network can they? I think with some work, it could happen. The OG droid was a vanilla OS, not IU rubbed like HTC/Motorola/samsung, and everything else these days. I am staying true to my thoughts here, Verizons OG droid was beautiful. If we get another droid like that? Euphoria for android fans, as we can snip a couple apps in a minute

**Jerry Hildenbrand** · 01-14-2011, 09:06 PM

You're not getting the concept I think. For the next Android developer phone, I must be able to:

connect it to my development computer
run two scripts
run "make"
then flash the fully open source build back to the phone
reboot to run it.

Either Verizon has to keep every Verizon specific app off the phone, or they will never get access to a developer phone. This includes apps that people didn't mind having, like the unified inbox. The Droid was not even close to meeting this criteria, but I think with the right amount of dollar signs in someone's eyes Verizon could let this happen.

The build that is flashed needs to work on any network the hardware is capable of. This means Sprint, US Cellular, Verizon and all CDMA regional carriers for a CDMA phone. This will never happen, because US carriers are too damn predatory. T-Mobile and AT&T have no choice, because SIM cards just work.

As for the blurb from engadget, they missed the mark. Carriers pay manufacturers to make phones they can fill with crap because they want extra money from the consumer. Android, being open source, makes this easy, and does a much better job than old BREW phones ever did. Apple added the Verizon Hotspot and location service to the iPhone. With Android, there's no need to have Google add anything, just hire a programmer to edit the source code and build whatever you want. Open Source doesn't = good or better, it only = open.