Any dual core VANILLA android phones announced?

**dave9851** · 02-09-2011, 09:56 PM

Currently own an X, and I'm just tired of software over android. I would love a dual core vanilla phone, but I haven't heard anything yet. Anyone know something I don't?

**SolidOrange** · 02-09-2011, 10:38 PM

let's just pray:

i would be all over that if it comes to VZW.

**Chris Kerrigan** · 02-09-2011, 10:39 PM

I've been begging for a Nexus on Verizon since the original Nexus One/Verizon flop. =\

**uansari1** · 02-10-2011, 12:43 AM

Maybe someone should start a letter/email campaign to push Google to do something about this.

**AlinaO** · 02-10-2011, 03:02 AM

i am hoping because i wanted to have one too.

**dave9851** · 02-10-2011, 01:11 PM

Yeah, manufacturer software over android just ruins the phone IMO. I understand android is "open", but as least close that BS lol. I've never seen any phone benefit from manufacturer software over it. Give me vanilla!!

**BSG75** · 02-10-2011, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Kerrigan

I've been begging for a Nexus on Verizon since the original Nexus One/Verizon flop. =\

I'll be right beside you. I guess the hang has always been with CDMA. Just put two stinkin' radios in it. <Gob voice>C'mon!</>

**Chris Kerrigan** · 02-10-2011, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by BSG75

I'll be right beside you. I guess the hang has always been with CDMA. Just put two stinkin' radios in it. <Gob voice>C'mon!</>

I'm hoping the next Nexus is a 4G LTE device. I think I'd **** myself.

**BSG75** · 02-10-2011, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Kerrigan

I'm hoping the next Nexus is a 4G LTE device. I think I'd **** myself.

I know. Just do it right, though. microsd card or at least 32gb internal. dual core. Led indicator. I want 4.3" but I'd go for a 4" if it were pure Goog.

**Chris Kerrigan** · 02-10-2011, 07:01 PM

The 4" range is perfect for me. I don't think I could go back to a screen that was less than 4, but I'd settle for 4.3" as long as it wasn't too bulky.

**foxpacific** · 02-10-2011, 07:28 PM

With all the talk about Nokia slowly dying and possibly partnering with Windows, I got to thinking.... what if they made some solid hardware that just ran vanilla Android. No extra development cost, first to update... it would be a smart move for them.

**pixelslave** · 02-10-2011, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by foxpacific

With all the talk about Nokia slowly dying and possibly partnering with Windows, I got to thinking.... what if they made some solid hardware that just ran vanilla Android. No extra development cost, first to update... it would be a smart move for them.

First of all, are there enough people thinking like you an me. You know, I've been thinking about this for a while. If there are enough of us, wouldn't it be possible to create an open source project to build an ultimate Android phone (both hardware and software)? On the software side, we know for sure that it wouldn't be a problem (we have way too many great ROM programmers out there.) On the hardware side, I am pretty sure there are some Android fans who are also great engineers. If our community can pull this off and collect enough users, we can then commission an OEM to build the phone for us.

**IceDree** · 02-10-2011, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by foxpacific

With all the talk about Nokia slowly dying and possibly partnering with Windows, I got to thinking.... what if they made some solid hardware that just ran vanilla Android. No extra development cost, first to update... it would be a smart move for them.

Nokia's hardware only good\Solid on papers , but in real life\daily usage Nokia phones is toooo sensitive & can't take the minim amount of abuse (a regular fall might severely damage your phone [I know my 6260 & my friend's N97 , N900 & 5800 did])

Plus their build quality is bad (or at least not like it used to be) (the only thing that holds the battery in my E75 is the cover , its was like this since the day i got it & I've returned one for a malfunctioned Camera)

Im sorry , but im done with Nokia . I won't get one even if Android 2.4+ was exclusive to them only

**scaots** · 02-10-2011, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by BSG75

I'll be right beside you. I guess the hang has always been with CDMA. Just put two stinkin' radios in it. <Gob voice>C'mon!</>

It's not CDMA that's a problem. It's the carrier that keeps tight control of devices on their network. ATT wouldn't have a Nexus One either except for the fact that I can stick my ATT sim in any unlocked phone with the right bands.

**foxpacific** · 02-10-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by pixelslave

First of all, are there enough people thinking like you an me. You know, I've been thinking about this for a while. If there are enough of us, wouldn't it be possible to create an open source project to build an ultimate Android phone (both hardware and software)? On the software side, we know for sure that it wouldn't be a problem (we have way too many great ROM programmers out there.) On the hardware side, I am pretty sure there are some Android fans who are also great engineers. If our community can pull this off and collect enough users, we can then commission an OEM to build the phone for us.

I smell a kickstarter project in the works...

**foxpacific** · 02-10-2011, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by IceDree

Nokia's hardware only good\Solid on papers , but in real life\daily usage Nokia phones is toooo sensitive & can't take the minim amount of abuse (a regular fall might severely damage your phone [I know my 6260 & my friend's N97 , N900 & 5800 did])

Plus their build quality is bad (or at least not like it used to be) (the only thing that holds the battery in my E75 is the cover , its was like this since the day i got it & I've returned one for a malfunctioned Camera)

Im sorry , but im done with Nokia . I won't get one even if Android 2.4+ was exclusive to them only

I can understand, once bitten and all, however, with a new head guy in place who seems to want to shake things up and turn it around I'd hope they pay real good attention to many details ensuring they don't get another miss... It may be their last.

**J T M** · 02-10-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by SolidOrange

let's just pray:

i would be all over that if it comes to VZW.

+ 1

**TaurenSnake** · 02-11-2011, 01:47 AM

Considering that Google has been on a annual cycle with nexus devices I certainly hope it will be an LTE device on the 700 mhz band and then maybe compatible with both At&t and Verizon for LTE. Hopefully also using Tegra 3. Now that wouldn't be a true successor. If done by Motorola then maybe some decently priced laptop docks with chrome OS as well.

**the one and only M** · 02-11-2011, 07:24 AM

If true, I hope this isn't Moto's answer to their locked bootloader policy. Have one developer phone and all the rest be locked down. I certainly wouldn't complain though if its released for verizon AND is Lte. I'd be the first to order!

**am4966** · 02-11-2011, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by foxpacific

With all the talk about Nokia slowly dying and possibly partnering with Windows, I got to thinking.... what if they made some solid hardware that just ran vanilla Android. No extra development cost, first to update... it would be a smart move for them.

Well looks like they are going to be teaming up!

**pixelslave** · 02-11-2011, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by foxpacific

I smell a kickstarter project in the works...

I've already done some researches on KickStarter's projects. It's really not easy to create a successful project there. Sure, everyone who has an idea can put one up. But a successful one, before it's even posted to KickStarter, almost always has something to show to the potential followers already. In the very least, if we want to bring this dream to the reality, before we create a KickStarter, we need to assemble a barebone team that can at least show some progress has already been made.

**BSG75** · 02-11-2011, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by pixelslave

I've already done some researches on KickStarter's projects. It's really not easy to create a successful project there. Sure, everyone who has an idea can put one up. But a successful one, before it's even posted to KickStarter, almost always has something to show to the potential followers already. In the very least, if we want to bring this dream to the reality, before we create a KickStarter, we need to assemble a barebone team that can at least show some progress has already been made.

I still love this idea. If some well known Android names (Cyanogen, XDA devs, unrEVOked) were behind this, it would go somewhere. There seem to be plenty of very talented software hackers I would like to see on this "board." I have no idea who could be a font-man on the hardware side, but there must be some people.

If they put together a group in Kickstarter, people would flock to it. They would get tons of geek press, no question. I would definitely donate seed money. I would wonder what manufacturer would make it for you, though. Would htc? Maybe. Would Samsung or Moto, probably not. I smell collusion to agree NOT to make it.

Then, would the carriers really activate it? Verizon has said they will activate ANY device that conforms to their network requirements.

CDMA/GSM 3G/LTE/WIMAX. 4" or 4.3". Dual Core. Front and rear cameras. Would be awesome. I would be so on board with this.

SAVE ANDROID! Give it the future it deserves!

**csteenbock** · 02-11-2011, 03:27 PM

Moto Nexus 3 with the new Hitachi screen. that would be so sick. not sure about the screen being 4.5 inches though, thats a little big. love the size of my Incredible's screen

**pixelslave** · 02-13-2011, 06:54 PM

I still love this idea. If some well known Android names (Cyanogen, XDA devs, unrEVOked) were behind this, it would go somewhere. There seem to be plenty of very talented software hackers I would like to see on this "board." I have no idea who could be a font-man on the hardware side, but there must be some people.

I put my words up front. If we can gather a team, I am willing to put down some funds to get the project up and running. May be a thousand or two. I am not a rich person, so it won't be much -- hopefully some other people could also donate. I can also provide free web hosting off my server (I have redundant bandwidth from my cloud server plan.)

If they put together a group in Kickstarter, people would flock to it. They would get tons of geek press, no question. I would definitely donate seed money. I would wonder what manufacturer would make it for you, though. Would htc? Maybe. Would Samsung or Moto, probably not. I smell collusion to agree NOT to make it.

The chance a big name manufacturer building this next to zero. Our run will probably be quite small (even if we can sell "thousands", it's a very small run.) Again, I've done some researches, our best chance is to get a smaller company like Meizu to build for us. The best scenario will be getting the interest of the company and actually invest into the project.

Then, would the carriers really activate it? Verizon has said they will activate ANY device that conforms to their network requirements.

Again, chance is pretty slim. Yes, Verizon has said that, but so far, how many devices have your see them certified? Plus, it's very likely that they will only certify it for the 3G network (I somehow recall that they have never said they will certify it for LTE.) The biggest problem here is that the carriers ALWAYS want to mess with their devices. May be taking out functions that they want to charge separately (Wifi tethering), or installing bloated software from their networks.

So, it's not an easy problem to work around. In the worst case, we may have to build something that only acts as a Wifi only device and rely on a Mifi-like device to provide the connection. If that's the case, two things need to be done:

1) We need to create an app to do VOIP
2) We need to find a way to distribute Google's app legally (the outlook is not too grim on this one, if Google is really so supportive to open source project)

Another possibility may be to build something that only works with T-mobile/AT&T. I think you can use their network as long as you can put in a SIM (that's why an AT&T iPhone can work on T-mobile.) Not sure if that works for their 4G network, though. I've never used T-Mobile and AT&T, so I couldn't tell for sure.

Anyway, if you are interested, spread the words. Hopefully, someone with the skills to pull this off will be attracted and we can gather a team to pursue our dream!