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    I have been a loyal Samsung customer for over 2 years and me and the fam own Samsung phones, tablets, tvs and blu-ray players. I love my Note 10.1. WTF is up with the 4.3 update for the 10.1? I mean seriously, this company that is so large and at the top of the Android game but yet can't release a software update in a timely manner. Oh no, they just release another device instead. I have a Note II as well and I'm still waiting. It angers me that this company holds out on software updates until they are somewhat satisfied with sales of the replacement devices. Any thoughts on this? Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS3GT View Post
    I have been a loyal Samsung customer for over 2 years and me and the fam own Samsung phones, tablets, tvs and blu-ray players. I love my Note 10.1. WTF is up with the 4.3 update for the 10.1? I mean seriously, this company that is so large and at the top of the Android game but yet can't release a software update in a timely manner. Oh no, they just release another device instead. I have a Note II as well and I'm still waiting. It angers me that this company holds out on software updates until they are somewhat satisfied with sales of the replacement devices. Any thoughts on this? Anyone?

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    They want you to buy their new phones, so they hold off on updates. Some people actually do upgrade. It sucks that they don't upgrade as fast as other phones but that's how it is, they need to test it on all of the different models, then release it to the carriers who mess with it some more and it gets delayed
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    If only there were another company that would make tablets/phones like Note-serie (phone+tabletsize+pen), I think I would switch. Although I just love my Note 10.1 (phone model), using it daily many hours, it makes me feel angry that Samsung offers updates for smaller size phones to work with Gear and keep pushing new models out. Come on! A smaller phone is easy to carry in a pocket anyway and taken out immediately when it rings... But 10.1 which need Gear definitely is still without update.

    I made my mind and decided to wait couple weeks to wait any news from Samsung, then I buy Sony Smartwatch if Samsung says nothing about the possible update.

    And it's not only the os update, but think about snote new version and compatibility with our snote!

    Come on Samsung! You have already got our money and we now we expecting some customer care too! Otherwise you are going to loose us... What does your PR team do? Maybe they are designing new Galaxy model for a xmas? And remember, when the time is right, there are more competitors who keep their customers happy, then it's "Byebye Sammy!"

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    Sounds like "Update anxiety" as stated in this AC article (excerpt below; bolded part by me. I'd highly recommend reading the entire article though! Very good info on the Android update process.): Why you'll never have the latest version of Android | Android Central

    "As updates become more common, and consumers become more tech-savvy, there’s an increasing awareness that devices can be updated, and an expectation that they should be updated. With that comes a sort of “update anxiety.” If you’ve dropped by any smartphone message board, such as our own forums or XDA’s, you’ll know what we mean by this. Threads abound asking when ICS, or Jelly Bean, will be available for certain devices. In the event of delayed or even canceled updates, Internet denizens swear they’ll never buy another phone from that manufacturer or carrier again. It’s an entirely negative ownership experience.

    While this isn’t representative of the entire user base -- not by far -- it’s an example of how many power users experience Android smartphones. They’re always behind the curve, always waiting on an update, never fully enjoying the product that they’ve bought as they’ve bought it. Part of that is the fault of the tech press -- we’re always focused on what’s new, and that means talking about software that hasn’t yet reached most folks."
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    Well, I should say, that Im satisfied with Samsung when (=WHEN) they update their devices. Most of all, Samsung makes stable updates, which is important. And I did know it when I bought my Note 10.1 that Im forced to wait updates sometimes but still.. Almost a year since they last update it to 4.1.2 and now we are going already 4.4, their newest devices have 4.3. They also designed an accessory which needs Android 4.3 but they didnt update their latest products before it. Whaaaaaat? What were they thinking??? Nothing?

    Im not asking I should get every updates, but Im expecting to get my device to work with their accessories they made by themselves. I have Asus TF300 and it gets updates all the time, sometimes too often, but at least Asus knows how to keep their customers happy.

    Samsung is going to hang itself if they dont change their behaviour from only manufacturing more devices than it is already enough. We were not buying "chinacrap" - use once and throw away -we thought we were buying some premium devices.

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    Samsung really has no incentive to update the old 10.1 or Note 2 to 4.3. It costs them money to do so and unless there's a SIGNIFICANT bug only the new OS can address it's not fiscally in their best interest to pay engineers to develop updates for older devices. Some feel entitled to these OS upgrades but in all honesty you paid for a stable working product and the OS it came with. I don't think Samsung would agree that you paid for a year or two of free OS upgrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haalcyon View Post
    Samsung really has no incentive to update the old 10.1 or Note 2 to 4.3. It costs them money to do so and unless there's a SIGNIFICANT bug only the new OS can address it's not fiscally in their best interest to pay engineers to develop updates for older devices. Some feel entitled to these OS upgrades but in all honesty you paid for a stable working product and the OS it came with. I don't think Samsung would agree that you paid for a year or two of free OS upgrades.

    from my '14 Note 10.1
    I have to disagree. None of us paid $300-700 for a premium device and didn't expect we should be getting OS upgrades. Upgraded software with new features is what helps with the reasoning on why we should pay that kind of money for a device. If it wasn't for that why pay so much? It surely isn't because its the best thing since sliced bread or anything. I have many many Samsung products but I agree with the OP. If they do not start upgrading the software to bring something new Ill look else ware for my electronic needs. I sure am not going to pay them 100's of dollars every year for upgrading software and a device with a few new features. Someone will update their stuff and put out a good product to keep their customers coming back.
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    There's a lot of good discussion going on here. As byrds8 mentioned, "paid $300-$700 for a premium device." I don't want to hear that it costs Samsung money. Samsung has plenty of money. Look at their quarterly/yearly earnings. I don't want to hear suger coating excuses as to why my tablet, still a newer device and very capable device cannot receive a timely update. The only excuse is greed and let's see how many people will buy the new device. Don't get me wrong, the 2014 edition is great and all but the 2012-2013 edition is more than capable of handling not just this update but, 4.4 as well. I dislike apple but at least they keep their customers updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byrds8 View Post
    I have to disagree. None of us paid $300-700 for a premium device and didn't expect we should be getting OS upgrades. Upgraded software with new features is what helps with the reasoning on why we should pay that kind of money for a device. If it wasn't for that why pay so much? It surely isn't because its the best thing since sliced bread or anything. I have many many Samsung products but I agree with the OP. If they do not start upgrading the software to bring something new Ill look else ware for my electronic needs. I sure am not going to pay them 100's of dollars every year for upgrading software and a device with a few new features. Someone will update their stuff and put out a good product to keep their customers coming back.
    Quote Originally Posted by MS3GT View Post
    There's a lot of good discussion going on here. As byrds8 mentioned, "paid $300-$700 for a premium device." I don't want to hear that it costs Samsung money. Samsung has plenty of money. Look at their quarterly/yearly earnings. I don't want to hear suger coating excuses as to why my tablet, still a newer device and very capable device cannot receive a timely update. The only excuse is greed and let's see how many people will buy the new device. Don't get me wrong, the 2014 edition is great and all but the 2012-2013 edition is more than capable of handling not just this update but, 4.4 as well. I dislike apple but at least they keep their customers updated.

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    Nexus. Nexus devices are the only way your expectations are going to be met as far as OS upgrades. That's just the reality. Apple can keep things updated because they have far less hardware to consider and they do charge a premium which some feel isn't justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haalcyon View Post
    Nexus. Nexus devices are the only way your expectations are going to be met as far as OS upgrades. That's just the reality. Apple can keep things updated because they have far less hardware to consider and they do charge a premium which some feel isn't justified.

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    :O What premium?
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    ^ This premium.

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    Hehe, thought you meant something on top of the purchase price. Nexus 7 with LTE and 32 GB costs $329? Far better

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    Well I don't think it's too much to ask to be updated timely since I paid a PREMIUM price of $500 for my device. I mean it's not like 4.3 just came out last week. It has been months. Even time enough for them to slap it on a new device. I realize it's all about sales and money, but cmon how long does it take for these so called software geniuses to skin and version of Android. Like I said, they have the money and the resources. I'm not like people who can shell out $500 or $700 for a new device whenever a new one comes out. I would just like a little customer care and honesty. Not some lame excuse that touchwiz has bugs. Maybe it's time to redesign touchwiz. Oh let me guess, if they do that, I'll have to buy a new device right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS3GT View Post
    Well I don't think it's too much to ask to be updated timely since I paid a PREMIUM price of $500 for my device. I mean it's not like 4.3 just came out last week. It has been months. Even time enough for them to slap it on a new device. I realize it's all about sales and money, but cmon how long does it take for these so called software geniuses to skin and version of Android. Like I said, they have the money and the resources. I'm not like people who can shell out $500 or $700 for a new device whenever a new one comes out. I would just like a little customer care and honesty. Not some lame excuse that touchwiz has bugs. Maybe it's time to redesign touchwiz. Oh let me guess, if they do that, I'll have to buy a new device right?

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    Buy the Nexus 7. Best tablet out there, $229

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS3GT View Post
    Well I don't think it's too much to ask to be updated timely since I paid a PREMIUM price of $500 for my device. I mean it's not like 4.3 just came out last week. It has been months. Even time enough for them to slap it on a new device. I realize it's all about sales and money, but cmon how long does it take for these so called software geniuses to skin and version of Android. Like I said, they have the money and the resources. I'm not like people who can shell out $500 or $700 for a new device whenever a new one comes out. I would just like a little customer care and honesty. Not some lame excuse that touchwiz has bugs. Maybe it's time to redesign touchwiz. Oh let me guess, if they do that, I'll have to buy a new device right?

    Aquaman75
    Again, sounds like you may be better served with a Nexus device. Out of curiosity how many years of free OS upgrades do you feel are justified? If you say one someone will say two...and someone else will say three. Who is correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haalcyon View Post
    Again, sounds like you may be better served with a Nexus device. Out of curiosity how many years of free OS upgrades do you feel are justified? If you say one someone will say two...and someone else will say three. Who is correct?

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    I say two years is fair. The hardware should be able to handle any of the software advancements made in that time. Especially with the high-end specs of the devices nowadays

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    Yeah, 2 years seems fair or as long as the hardware will support it. And this hardware is definitely capable.

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    And in another year I will most likely purchase another tablet. I just don't like when companies don't take care of their customers. They're like Ronco, SET IT and FORGET IT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haalcyon View Post
    Samsung really has no incentive to update the old 10.1 or Note 2 to 4.3. It costs them money to do so and unless there's a SIGNIFICANT bug only the new OS can address it's not fiscally in their best interest to pay engineers to develop updates for older devices. Some feel entitled to these OS upgrades but in all honesty you paid for a stable working product and the OS it came with. I don't think Samsung would agree that you paid for a year or two of free OS upgrades.

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    When you are talking about Android, you know it get updates. Nobody, NOBODY thinks about that the os they buy it is the final one. It's Android, it developes! It's more like a law, that youre expecting to get some updates too, if the devices can handle it. If Samsung is even consider this not going to happen, they are far from a company that can keep their customers in the future. Every large companies update their devices. Name one that doesnt do that? So does Samsung too. Unfortunately they are nowadays more into designing multiple devices and Im pretty sure they have faced the problem they made by themselves:

    I bet they have now a huge problem "Boss, we dont have time to do updates more devices, we just have too many differend kind of galaxys nowadays. Not only models, but we have done so many skins for the same model too, sprint, att, verizone... etc. What do we do?" -Hey, I have a solution. Make another Galaxy and named it (2014)!

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    When you are talking about Android, you know it get updates. Nobody, NOBODY thinks about that the os they buy it is the final one. It's Android, it developes! It's more like a law, that youre expecting to get some updates too, if the devices can handle it. If Samsung is even consider this not going to happen, they are far from a company that can keep their customers in the future. Every large companies update their devices. Name one that doesnt do that? So does Samsung too. Unfortunately they are nowadays more into designing multiple devices and Im pretty sure they have faced the problem they made by themselves:

    I bet they have now a huge problem "Boss, we dont have time to do updates more devices, we just have too many differend kind of galaxys nowadays. Not only models, but we have done so many skins for the same model too, sprint, att, verizone... etc. What do we do?" -Hey, I have a solution. Make another Galaxy and named it (2014)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by byrds8 View Post
    I have to disagree. None of us paid $300-700 for a premium device and didn't expect we should be getting OS upgrades. Upgraded software with new features is what helps with the reasoning on why we should pay that kind of money for a device. If it wasn't for that why pay so much? It surely isn't because its the best thing since sliced bread or anything. I have many many Samsung products but I agree with the OP. If they do not start upgrading the software to bring something new Ill look else ware for my electronic needs. I sure am not going to pay them 100's of dollars every year for upgrading software and a device with a few new features. Someone will update their stuff and put out a good product to keep their customers coming back.
    Quote Originally Posted by enigmax View Post
    When you are talking about Android, you know it get updates. Nobody, NOBODY thinks about that the os they buy it is the final one. It's Android, it developes! It's more like a law, that youre expecting to get some updates too, if the devices can handle it. If Samsung is even consider this not going to happen, they are far from a company that can keep their customers in the future. Every large companies update their devices. Name one that doesnt do that? So does Samsung too. Unfortunately they are nowadays more into designing multiple devices and Im pretty sure they have faced the problem they made by themselves:

    I bet they have now a huge problem "Boss, we dont have time to do updates more devices, we just have too many differend kind of galaxys nowadays. Not only models, but we have done so many skins for the same model too, sprint, att, verizone... etc. What do we do?" -Hey, I have a solution. Make another Galaxy and named it (2014)!
    There's an old axiom that goes: Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed!

    What you guys describe personifies the "power user" which is a minority (as mentioned in the article I linked in my post above and below). Otherwise the vast majority don't expect/think about getting updates. That is until they get one and it causes issues with their device. That's something else to think about, updates are not without risk.

    Again, I'd recommend reading the entire article: Why you'll never have the latest version of Android | Android Central

    Another excerpt:

    "The only true solution to the Android update problem is a change in mindset, or if that doesnt work, a change of handset. Android will never be able to offer across-the-board updates like Apple does -- its technically impossible for the wide variety of reasons weve already covered.

    Android phone owners, community members and fans need to appreciate that updates are hard to develop, and take time and money to put out, and when carriers get involved, they can be subject to long, tedious delays. Thats not the case with iOS and Windows Phone, but theyre very different operating systems. Painful as it may be to admit, waiting for updates will be part of the Android experience for many years to come.

    But if Android is the problem, then perhaps Android can also be the solution, at least for technically adventurous users. Androids openness enables it to run on multiple hardware platforms, but Googles OS is also eminently hacker-friendly. Many leading devices have a vibrant custom ROM scene, where custom-built firmwares are available, often based on later versions of Android than are officially available for those phones. That means if you really, really care about running the latest version of the OS, you can crack open your bootloader and do so, at the cost of stability (and perhaps your warranty).

    Thats not a perfect solution, but its as close were ever likely to get. Then open -- or openy -- nature of Android has its advantages -- a wide variety of hardware, hackability and custom ROM support, endless choice in screen sizes, software customizations, multimedia chops, chassis styles and industrial designs. But it comes with one major Achilles heel -- the labyrinthine, time-consuming and expensive process of getting phones updated with a new version drops. Its not necessarily anyones fault, but it's a weakness that's built into Android's DNA, and one we doubt will ever be overcome."
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    Well said and written. What I am talking about in fact is the Note 10.1. There is no carrier tied to my device. Its a wifi only Samsung device. 4.3 has been out long enough to be tested and laid down on the new products that Im sure have been in development for about a year give or take. Plenty of time for Samsung geniuses to lay down 4.3 on a barely year old device. I have a Note 2 and Im not even holding my breath for that update. I've got Sammy and Sprint to deal with on that front. However the 10.1 shouldn't have much of a hold up other than the 2014 edition making sales.

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