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    Default 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    For the test, I used some professional light measuring equipment (my DSLR).

    I captured an image at F/2.8, ISO 400, at 0 EV. Maxed out brightness on the Note 2, with Auto adjust screen tone off (important). I used a completely white picture shot at the same distance.

    Before update:
    Shutter speed 1/125s
    After update:
    Shutter speed 1/500s!

    That is exactly 2 full stops. Or 4 times the original brightness.

    Now, 400% sounds like a lot, like it would blind you. I don't want to create an over-expectation. It's seems adequately bright in a well lit room, where previously in that same room, the phone maybe seemed kinda dim.

    When I got my original Galaxy Note II, that I was a little disappointed because people kept saying it is the brightest screen they ever had, and mine was far from that. But maybe those people saying that had something like this originally, but I just got it now. And it is beautiful.

    Model: SHV-E250L (Korean Galaxy Note II, received OTA update today)
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    My Note 2 (like every Note 2 I have seen) isn't in the same ballpark, brightness-wise as my lowly Bionic. The Bionic has obvious greater brightness and is the ONLY feature of that phone that I miss.

    I'm shocked that anyone would say the Note 2 has a bright screen. All one has to do to disabuse themselves of that mistaken notion, is spend a few minutes at their local Verizon store. the Note is awesome, but brightness isn't its forte. Check out many of the Droids--Moto's offerings and even the HTC DNA, and there are others...
    Verizon Note 2 on 4.4.2 and Gear 2
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    Dave, I would have 100% agreed with you until yesterday, before I got the 4.1.2 update. And I can't say this will be the same experience with everyone. I believe it may be the carrier that has a say in these things, and my carrier initially put a very low maximum brightness, and now this thing is kinda uncomfortable indoors if I put it on max. I also leave the auto adjust screen tone off by the way.

    For the last 2+ months, I've used the phone at 100% brightness about 90% of the time, and now it would be excessive to do this indoors now after the update. As for bright settings such as showrooms, it's adequate, significantly improved from my usual experience "damn this Note II looks kinda dim compared to all these phones in the showroom, let me put it in my pocket before I bum myself out" experience.
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    A couple of things:


    1. LCD screens will most always be brighter than AMOLED screens. Brighter isn't always better, though, except in very bright environments, e.g. direct sunlight.
    2. What AMOLED screens lack in brightness, they make up for in amazing contrast ratios, which have a LOT to do with how pleasing the display quality is. Don't underestimate the importance of contrast ratio versus brightness and resolution. Check out this article for a good explanation. It's kind of technical and is written about HDTVs, but you get the idea.
    3. If you want to get the maximum brightness out of the Note 2:
      • Go to Settings/Display/Auto adjust screen tone: uncheck it.
      • Go to Settings/Display/Screen mode: select "Dynamic".


    Now "Dynamic" will not give you the most natural-appearing colors. Some even describe them as "cartoonish", which I find to be a gross exaggeration. However, it will give you a more visible display in brighter environments. If you want more realistic colors, choose Natural or Movie. Those won't be as bright, or course, but they are much closer to natural than the top two choices.
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    Hmmm....Theres no way I could use my note 2 at 100% brightness indoors. It would be way too bright and uncomfortable for my eyes. I normally have it set slightly past the half mark and turn on auto brightness.
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    wait wait youre saying that after the update the max brightness has gone up?!?!?
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucidmike View Post
    Dave, I would have 100% agreed with you until yesterday, before I got the 4.1.2 update. And I can't say this will be the same experience with everyone. I believe it may be the carrier that has a say in these things, and my carrier initially put a very low maximum brightness, and now this thing is kinda uncomfortable indoors if I put it on max. I also leave the auto adjust screen tone off by the way.

    For the last 2+ months, I've used the phone at 100% brightness about 90% of the time, and now it would be excessive to do this indoors now after the update. As for bright settings such as showrooms, it's adequate, significantly improved from my usual experience "damn this Note II looks kinda dim compared to all these phones in the showroom, let me put it in my pocket before I bum myself out" experience.
    Even though my Note isn't nearly as bright as the bionic (and numerous other phones), i set it around 40-50% indoors. Outdoors, however, it's not nearly bright enough for my needs, at 100%. Even the bionic is marginal outside. The note is dreadfully dismal in bright sun.
    Verizon Note 2 on 4.4.2 and Gear 2
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    Just incase anyone is curious, here are the JPEG and CR2's. These pics are not glamour product shots. They are for the purposes of measurements off a highly calibrated light measuring device. You have to look at the EXIF information. The whole point is to take the same picture with the same level of brightness, by only exposing the sensor to 1/4 of the original open shutter time. The shutter speed indicates change in brightness because trying to evaluate a picture being brighter with people's eyes is always subjective.

    Here's additional test information.
    Camera: Canon 20D
    Lens: Canon 60mm Macro F2.8
    Light Metering: Center Weighed
    ISO: 400
    F-stop: F/2.8
    0 EV

    Phone settings:
    100% Brightness
    Auto Brightness off
    Auto adjust screen tone off
    Model: SHV-E250L

    The Test:
    Before update:
    Shutter speed 1/125s - 1/160s
    After update:
    Shutter speed 1/500s - 1/640s

    If you know a bit of photography, you will see that it was a good test with all the right settings. It was done in a room with a very dim controlled light source. It would be impossible to do a test like this with a point & shoot.


    https://www.dropbox.com/s/520h0j18tq...nesschange.zip

    Again, sounds like not everyone will get this boost, but some people have gotten it. Some people didn't. I just wanted some concrete numbers, hearing that I may notice this. I wanted more definite proof than say something like "yeah, it definitely kinda seems brighter."

    So I did this right before and after the update. And I'm glad I did because even with these concrete numbers, people seem to not believe. I can only provide the facts for my device.
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    I had the Bionic and the screen didn't impress me - nor did the phone since I returned it.

    I just got the Note II 2 weeks ago and it has by far the best screen I've seen.

    I have it on 50% brightness and that's more than bright enough. If I went 100% I'd burn my retina's.
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    Totally agree! My Note 2 isn't even viewable outdoors in the afternoon. I have to remember to stop and turn up the display to 100% before going out the door. And even then it is extremely dim to where I just post-post use until I get into lower light. Other then that, the Note 2 is a superb device in every way. The brightness bothers me to the point I had considered changing to the GS4 upon its release but true brightness tests (not a naked eye) showed the GS4 slightly above the GN2. I am currently on 4.1.1 so I hope there is a 400% increase when I receive the update.
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SSHGuru View Post
    I had the Bionic and the screen didn't impress me - nor did the phone since I returned it.

    I just got the Note II 2 weeks ago and it has by far the best screen I've seen.

    I have it on 50% brightness and that's more than bright enough. If I went 100% I'd burn my retina's.
    that surprises me. My Bionic(s) were far, far brighter than my Note 2. The difference in brightness is DRAMATIC. And it's not like I'm comparing ONE copy of each phone. We have had 3 Bionics in the house, and two Note 2's and I've seen several others of each. The only time my Note 2 seems somewhat "bright", is when I'm in near or total darkeness. Otherwise it's the worst aspect of the phone IMO. White isn't well balanced either...
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    I would return it. Or go to the store and compare yours with theirs. I can't go over 60% without it being too bright. I can light up a room just with the screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by dave1812 View Post
    that surprises me. My Bionic(s) were far, far brighter than my Note 2. The difference in brightness is DRAMATIC. And it's not like I'm comparing ONE copy of each phone. We have had 3 Bionics in the house, and two Note 2's and I've seen several others of each. The only time my Note 2 seems somewhat "bright", is when I'm in near or total darkeness. Otherwise it's the worst aspect of the phone IMO. White isn't well balanced either...
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    I'm with Dave. The only time mine seems too bright is when I put it in the car mount at night, when it's almost completely dark. The rest of the time I have it on 100% brightness. If there were a brightness overdrive or 200% brightness for out of doors daylight usage, I'd use it.
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    Default Re: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

    I live in SE Asia. Today I tried to take a photo in bright sunlight on my 2 week old Note 2.

    I could not see the screen. I'm only sitting at 50% brightness though.

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