tried all of the suggestions....thank you....but still had issues.
the nearest i came, or in theory, was lockerpro lockscreen........ but had two issues.....let me also add here that i have rooted and this was the full version......the notifications on it were not updating, i.e. i would send a text and it wouldnt update to show it...also, sometimes it wouldnt come on with the phone, touchwiz was over-riding it still, but that didnt happen all the time...then when it would come on it would flash to the touchwiz lockscreen for a split second before getting to the homescreen making an ugly transition....i also thought about changing launchers which i need to ask about..i was looking at nova and apex..but my confusion was two things....1. to my understanding touchwiz sits on top of stock jelly bean, so would nova or apex sit on top of touchwiz sitting on top of jelly bean ?? 2. i have all my apps laid out in folders on the homescreens perfect....could i try another launcher and then go back to touchwiz and would everything be as i had it before, apps in correct folders ??