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    Default Galaxy Note II - the forgotten flagship...

    You'd be forgiven for forgetting that until the Note III arrived, the beloved Note II was Samsung's flagship 'phablet'. Also its most neglected...

    This official Samsung infographic is the symbolic death of the Note II by its makers. Effectively says 'the Note II is a poor choice, buy our shiny Note III'. Clearly Samsung aren't seeing the Note II to Note III upgrade numbers they expected.

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    Default Re: Galaxy Note II - the forgotten flagship...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Flowers View Post
    You'd be forgiven for forgetting that until the Note III arrived, the beloved Note II was Samsung's flagship 'phablet'. Also its most neglected...

    This official Samsung infographic is the symbolic death of the Note II by its makers. Effectively says 'the Note II is a poor choice, buy our shiny Note III'. Clearly Samsung aren't seeing the Note II to Note III upgrade numbers they expected.

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    It's not necessarily forgotten its just been succeeded with a newer model. Was the OG Note treated any different when the Note 2 came out? The Note 3 is an all around better device than the Note 2. Samsung is just focusing on the current and the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Flowers View Post
    Clearly Samsung aren't seeing the Note II to Note III upgrade numbers they expected.
    Why? If 95% of the Note 2 users were upgrading, do you think they wouldn't be trying to get the other 5%.

    I can't actually read your image because it is so lo-res, but it appears to be some sort of N2 to N3 comparison. If so, doesn't every phone manufacturer try to get you to upgrade to the newer model. In fact, can you think of any industry that isn't always trying to get you to move to the latest release?

    Note and Note 2 users are the perfect people for Samsung to target, because they have already show they don't mind the larger phone.
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    At least we have 4.3 on our beloved note 2!

    (Insert frustration and sarcasm here)
    Ooh yeah I almost forgot we don't have that do we.......Sigh

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    I think the reason most Note 2 owners aren't upgrading is a matter of simple economics. If you bought the Note 2 on contract within the past year, you paid $300 and are not yet upgrade eligible. To get the Note 3, you'd have to shell out over $700 off contract. Admittedly, $300 or so of that could be recouped by selling the Note 2, but you're still shelling out a net of at least $400, less than a year after shelling out $300 for the Note 2.
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    If I could put s note and then pen on a different device, like the HTC max, I would.

    For a "future-proof" phone like the Note 2, which still has awesome specs by this year's standards, the lack of updates is horrible.

    I'd at least expect to have the features from the newest note on my Note 8.0 and note 2. My girlfriend's iPad 2 just got iOS 7 FFS.

    I really want the new evernote integration from the new software... but I guess these two devices will get left behind. So frustrating.
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    Grrr... frustrated

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    Default Re: Galaxy Note II - the forgotten flagship...

    Quote Originally Posted by jrsharp70 View Post
    If I could put s note and then pen on a different device, like the HTC max, I would.

    For a "future-proof" phone like the Note 2, which still has awesome specs by this year's standards, the lack of updates is horrible.

    I'd at least expect to have the features from the newest note on my Note 8.0 and note 2. My girlfriend's iPad 2 just got iOS 7 FFS.

    I really want the new evernote integration from the new software... but I guess these two devices will get left behind. So frustrating.
    They may get updated...just not in the timeframe you desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasW View Post
    I think the reason most Note 2 owners aren't upgrading is a matter of simple economics. If you bought the Note 2 on contract within the past year, you paid $300 and are not yet upgrade eligible. To get the Note 3, you'd have to shell out over $700 off contract. Admittedly, $300 or so of that could be recouped by selling the Note 2, but you're still shelling out a net of at least $400, less than a year after shelling out $300 for the Note 2.
    I'm not sure, for me I just well.... am happy with my Note2. I know that every tech pundit says it's a huge upgrade but from the Note 2 to 3 but I see no reason to upgrade
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    Bought my note 2 it was 4.1 more than one year later it's still 4.1. Way to go Samsung, I moving to nexus after my contract expires.

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    If only the manufacturers could get the carriers to give me a discount every year, then I'd buy more devices.

    Sometimes I feel like there's a disconnect between device marketing and actual phone buying practices

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Bought my note 2 it was 4.1 more than one year later it's still 4.1. Way to go Samsung, I moving to nexus after my contract expires.

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    I feel the same. I'm in the T-Mobile jump promotion and come January I think I'm jumping ship to the nexus 5. Getting sick of no communication regarding updates. The reason I got the note 2 was at the time. All I read was Samsung updating this phone and that phone. Now I don't know what the heck has happened but I'm not satisfied.

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    I'm not all that bothered by the lack of updates per se -- it's not like 4.1.2 is horrible and 4.3 is a quantum leap. I find the hardware improvements on the Note 3 a bit more attractive -- the screen, CPU, and RAM. Although it would be nice to get some of the new Multi Window features with that whole Air Command business, I'm not sure that will even be available for the Note 2 with a 4.3 upgrade because the S Pen and digitizer have been updated from what I understand.
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    If you're only buying phones for the updates, then you will not be happy unless you buy a pure Google experience phone. As long as you buy a phone that is not a true Google phone, you are just going to have to wait for the updates. Most updates are delayed by the carriers so they can add their changes, test the changes, and make further changes if they don't work or cause other issues with the phone (stability, random boots, etc). If am happy with my Note 2 and if/when I get the 4.3 update I am sure I will still be happy.

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    I have the Note 3 but I loved the Note 2. I only upgraded because I switched carriers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algus View Post
    If only the manufacturers could get the carriers to give me a discount every year, then I'd buy more devices.

    Sometimes I feel like there's a disconnect between device marketing and actual phone buying practices

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    I think that this is the exact wrong problem. If people bought phones out right, and paid less money for their service, then devices would have a shelf life similar to what a computer does. This would mean lower prices for your service in the long run, and also an incentive to keep devices updated.

    You've never heard of a one year old MacBook not being updated to the newest operating system, have you?

    And yes, I am aware that you can buy a phone and get on a lower-priced carrier and save money. But for people like me who need coverage like Verizon has, it just is not an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasW View Post
    I'm not all that bothered by the lack of updates per se -- it's not like 4.1.2 is horrible and 4.3 is a quantum leap. I find the hardware improvements on the Note 3 a bit more attractive -- the screen, CPU, and RAM. Although it would be nice to get some of the new Multi Window features with that whole Air Command business, I'm not sure that will even be available for the Note 2 with a 4.3 upgrade because the S Pen and digitizer have been updated from what I understand.
    It isn't really about the operating system to me. It is more about getting the Samsung note specific features that have been updated.

    It is not as if the hardware cannot handle the new air view feature, scrapbook feature, or S note features (like better Evernote integration).

    But I agree, I have said all along that you should not buy an android phone unless you are happy with the features that it comes with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasW View Post
    I'm not all that bothered by the lack of updates per se -- it's not like 4.1.2 is horrible and 4.3 is a quantum leap. I find the hardware improvements on the Note 3 a bit more attractive -- the screen, CPU, and RAM. Although it would be nice to get some of the new Multi Window features with that whole Air Command business, I'm not sure that will even be available for the Note 2 with a 4.3 upgrade because the S Pen and digitizer have been updated from what I understand.
    It's not the update per se. It's just that Samsung is using the update as a "feature" for their newer phone. Which for me translate to "heck with the customer after sales I'm all about money money money"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    It's not the update per se. It's just that Samsung is using the update as a "feature" for their newer phone. Which for me translate to "heck with the customer after sales I'm all about money money money"

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    Well, it costs Samsung money to release these updates. How long should they push OS version changes out? 1 year. 2 years. 3 years? You only paid for the phone to work as is. OS version updates are really important its best to get a Nexus device. I have a Note 3 and I have no right to expect that they're going to update to 4.4 or whatever else Google releases in the year.


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    It doesn't matter what anyone says, it's poor that we've never had an update for the note II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haalcyon View Post
    Well, it costs Samsung money to release these updates. How long should they push OS version changes out? 1 year. 2 years. 3 years? You only paid for the phone to work as is. OS version updates are really important its best to get a Nexus device. I have a Note 3 and I have no right to expect that they're going to update to 4.4 or whatever else Google releases in the year.


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    I'm sorry you didn't understand my post. Samsung was about to release 4.2 when they decided hold off the release so that note3 and s4 will have time to shine.

    I'm just irked that I'm not getting the update that they already built because they want the note3 and s4 to sell more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    I'm sorry you didn't understand my post. Samsung was about to release 4.2 when they decided hold off the release so that note3 and s4 will have time to shine.

    I'm just irked that I'm not getting the update that they already built because they want the note3 and s4 to sell more.

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    I still wake each day foolishly expecting to see that 'updates available' notification. Alas, Samsung appear to enjoy watching us suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Flowers View Post
    I still wake each day foolishly expecting to see that 'updates available' notification. Alas, Samsung appear to enjoy watching us suffer.

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    yup. it was like chasing that girl in high school for months. you finally get her, then bam, she ignores you. that was the Note 2 experience for me. i switched to the S4 Active (see my goodbye post to the Note 2 forum). The S4 may not be as hot as the Note 2, but I'm getting a lot of attention (updates, solid aftermarket products - i mean cases, mounts, gadgets galore, etc.). It's clear the S4 is getting samsung's attention (and money).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rankar7 View Post
    yup. it was like chasing that girl in high school for months. you finally get her, then bam, she ignores you. that was the Note 2 experience for me. i switched to the S4 Active (see my goodbye post to the Note 2 forum). The S4 may not be as hot as the Note 2, but I'm getting a lot of attention (updates, solid aftermarket products - i mean cases, mounts, gadgets galore, etc.). It's clear the S4 is getting samsung's attention (and money).
    This happens whenever the latest and greatest comes out. I think it's inevitable, especially considering how quickly tech is moving nowadays. If it moved at a slower pace, I'm sure our phones would see more updates.
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