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    Default Root or Not Root?

    I have a Tmo note 3 that I want to root, but the question is, after the kit kat upgrade will still rooted? will I receive the update? Is it worth it or not? Benefits from been rooted?
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    Not gonna b rooted after update, not going to receive OTA update, it worth depends of what u want to do

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    If you root now and you accept the kitkat OTA then that will break root. You can then Re-Root after the update and start flashing the rom of your liking. But it all depends on what you want to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme Duncan View Post
    If you root now and you accept the kitkat OTA then that will break root. You can then Re-Root after the update and start flashing the rom of your liking. But it all depends on what you want to do?

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    They don't even let modified devices grab the OTA.

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    Jezzz so I'm better wait for the ota and then root...
    But lets say I do that, what can I dot with a rooted device that I can't do without rooting it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmadrid20 View Post
    Jezzz so I'm better wait for the ota and then root...
    But lets say I do that, what can I dot with a rooted device that I can't do without rooting it??

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    Yes wait for the Update then root, it allows you to tweak various aspects of your device and you will then be able to flash custom roms & kernels. Basically customising it to your liking and Not manufacturers and or carriers.

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    Perfect I'll wait, btw when is the update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmadrid20 View Post
    Perfect I'll wait, btw when is the update?

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    Not to sure in the states I'm sure AC did inform if you scroll in the main forum. I flashed the Poland firmware (impatient) lol

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    Lol, it sounds like "be or not to be " question :-) and for this question is difficult answer too. I think that there's no reason to root. There will be official 4. 4. 2 update so why being hurry? If you'll root it what you'll have? Better Note? I don't think so. Just battery drain issues, warranty lost... I think that Note 3 is the perfect phone and there is no need to root! Yes I rooted my Evo 3D 2 years ago but it has got 768 MB RAM so I replaced stock ROM with ROM with better RAM management. It was root for a reason but here I see no reason. This phone is fast and stable... why to change it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    Lol, it sounds like "be or not to be " question :-) and for this question is difficult answer too. I think that there's no reason to root. There will be official 4. 4. 2 update so why being hurry? If you'll root it what you'll have? Better Note? I don't think so. Just battery drain issues, warranty lost... I think that Note 3 is the perfect phone and there is no need to root! Yes I rooted my Evo 3D 2 years ago but it has got 768 MB RAM so I replaced stock ROM with ROM with better RAM management. It was root for a reason but here I see no reason. This phone is fast and stable... why to change it?

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    Hey Mr Anti - Root yes points are valid bar battery drain and stability. I have tried various roms for my Note 3 not all perfect by any means but neither has had battery drain and only one out of 4 had any stability issues.

    The one I'm referring to is Beanstalk where video playback was funky (framerate).

    There are many many plus sides to rooting & Romming. I can say from experience that it does come with a few negatives. But in my opinion the positives outweigh the negatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    Lol, it sounds like "be or not to be " question :-) and for this question is difficult answer too. I think that there's no reason to root. There will be official 4. 4. 2 update so why being hurry? If you'll root it what you'll have? Better Note? I don't think so. Just battery drain issues, warranty lost... I think that Note 3 is the perfect phone and there is no need to root! Yes I rooted my Evo 3D 2 years ago but it has got 768 MB RAM so I replaced stock ROM with ROM with better RAM management. It was root for a reason but here I see no reason. This phone is fast and stable... why to change it?

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    I am rooted and have zero battery drain issues.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    Lol, it sounds like "be or not to be " question :-) and for this question is difficult answer too. I think that there's no reason to root. There will be official 4. 4. 2 update so why being hurry? If you'll root it what you'll have? Better Note? I don't think so. Just battery drain issues, warranty lost... I think that Note 3 is the perfect phone and there is no need to root! Yes I rooted my Evo 3D 2 years ago but it has got 768 MB RAM so I replaced stock ROM with ROM with better RAM management. It was root for a reason but here I see no reason. This phone is fast and stable... why to change it?

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    Rooting allows for a lot more changes and some tweaks that even IMPROVE battery life over the stock ROM. Plus you can make full system backups and use apps that are root only, so yes, rooting can make the Note 3 better, no matter how good it already is.

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    Everything in this post is 100% accurate...I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme Duncan View Post

    There are many many plus sides to rooting & Romming.
    Listening... tell me few of them.

    I'm not Mr Anti - Root. Just saying that it has no sense to me. It's like when in early 90' s most of my friends had 286's few luckers 386's... Now I'll be traveling in the time and I take my i7 PC with me and I will want to overclock it... wtf?! For what? To playing pacman... this makes me same sense like root Note 3 at this moment.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    Listening... tell me few of them.

    I'm not Mr Anti - Root. Just saying that it has no sense to me. It's like when in early 90' s most of my friends had 286's few luckers 386's... Now I'll be traveling in the time and I take my i7 PC with me and I will want to overclock it... wtf?! For what? To playing pacman... this makes me same sense like root Note 3 at this moment.



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    Rooting is great if it helps you gain access to things you need. If you have everything you need without rooting, then of course it makes no sense to root. The answer to root or not is a personal one and won't apply to everyone across the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sloan31 View Post
    Rooting is great if it helps you gain access to things you need. If you have everything you need without rooting, then of course it makes no sense to root. The answer to root or not is a personal one and won't apply to everyone across the board.
    +1 sorry just had to lol yup I do agree with this though :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    Rooting allows for a lot more changes and some tweaks that even IMPROVE battery life over the stock ROM. Plus you can make full system backups and use apps that are root only, so yes, rooting can make the Note 3 better, no matter how good it already is.

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    Ehm, bro I know what rooting is. question is do I need full system backup if I don't change ROMs like a sox? Do I need root only apps? With Note 3 is an answer on both questions no I don't. I'm not newbie on android devices so I can truly say that yep root is perfect solution for most devices to help them out from issues which comes with stock ROM but I stand by my words for Note 3 it's not necessary. Why repair something what's not broken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    Ehm, bro I know what rooting is. question is do I need full system backup if I don't change ROMs like a sox? Do I need root only apps? With Note 3 is an answer on both questions no I don't. I'm not newbie on android devices so I can truly say that yep root is perfect solution for most devices to help them out from issues which comes with stock ROM but I stand by my words for Note 3 it's not necessary. Why repair something what's not broken?

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    Not necessary for you. I know I and a lot of others here aren't fond of TouchWiz, so that alone is reason enough to root and flash custom ROMs. My S4 worked fine and was not "broken" but I chose to do it anyway. Like mentioned above, it's not for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    Ehm, bro I know what rooting is. question is do I need full system backup if I don't change ROMs like a sox? Do I need root only apps? With Note 3 is an answer on both questions no I don't. I'm not newbie on android devices so I can truly say that yep root is perfect solution for most devices to help them out from issues which comes with stock ROM but I stand by my words for Note 3 it's not necessary. Why repair something what's not broken?

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    Okay so you said it.. For you... You don't need root.

    How do you know the OP doesn't need it? I root and think it's necessary for my needs.. But that's where we differ. If you don't need it that's fine but there are advantages to rooting for some people's needs.

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    Okay so you said it.. For you... You don't need root.

    How do you know the OP doesn't need it? I root and think it's necessary for my needs.. But that's where we differ. If you don't need it that's fine but there are advantages to rooting for some people's needs.

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    Rooting and flashing roms ain't for everyone. For some it simply is not required but for others that like to tinker with THEIR phone and optimise it beyond manufacture settings. Then yes it is required, and yes it does have its advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    Not necessary for you. I know I and a lot of others here aren't fond of TouchWiz, so that alone is reason enough to root and flash custom ROMs. My S4 worked fine and was not "broken" but I chose to do it anyway. Like mentioned above, it's not for everyone.

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    TouchWiz? What's it? :-) wanna tell that only way to change launcher is root? Hm. I saw TW only after first boot up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almeuit View Post
    Okay so you said it.. For you... You don't need root.

    How do you know the OP doesn't need it? I root and think it's necessary for my needs.. But that's where we differ. If you don't need it that's fine but there are advantages to rooting for some people's needs.

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    Exactly. We all are individuals and everybody needs something different to happiness. I just would to know why is your phone better than mine or what you can do with your phone what I can't and how do you use that "root features " in usually day... It's really so helpful?


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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    TouchWiz? What's it? :-) wanna tell that only way to change launcher is root? Hm. I saw TW only after first boot up.



    Exactly. We all are individuals and everybody needs something different to happiness. I just would to know why is your phone better than mine or what you can do with your phone what I can't and how do you use that "root features " in usually day... It's really so helpful?


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    No, you can change the launcher without root, but that changes only the launcher and app drawer. The quick toggles, status bar, notification center and settings menu is still the usual TouchWiz one. And TouchWiz is still a RAM hog, and the phone isn't nearly as smooth as it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    No, you can change the launcher without root, but that changes only the launcher and app drawer. The quick toggles, status bar, notification center and settings menu is still the usual TouchWiz one. And TouchWiz is still a RAM hog, and the phone isn't nearly as smooth as it should be.

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    Don't know…mine running nice and smooth. OK, you're right if you need other settings menu to live a peaceful life ;-) root is your option. I don't care about it. For me it's important that I can rely up on my Note in my business. when I'm bored I can play anything I want, I can watch fullHD movies, use camera, browse the internet…I can use it all the day and still have 40% of battery. no lags no problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    TouchWiz? What's it? :-) wanna tell that only way to change launcher is root? Hm. I saw TW only after first boot up.



    Exactly. We all are individuals and everybody needs something different to happiness. I just would to know why is your phone better than mine or what you can do with your phone what I can't and how do you use that "root features " in usually day... It's really so helpful?


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    Access system files, ROMs, unlimited tethering, icon modifications (kind of falls into system files), freeze other things with Titanium Backup that I don't want running.

    Just a few of the things I like .

    Also you're taking this all the wrong way.. We aren't saying our phone is better for it versus your phone.. It isn't.. It's just better for what I like to do..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tee86 View Post
    Lol, it sounds like "be or not to be " question :-) and for this question is difficult answer too. I think that there's no reason to root. There will be official 4. 4. 2 update so why being hurry? If you'll root it what you'll have? Better Note? I don't think so. Just battery drain issues, warranty lost... I think that Note 3 is the perfect phone and there is no need to root! Yes I rooted my Evo 3D 2 years ago but it has got 768 MB RAM so I replaced stock ROM with ROM with better RAM management. It was root for a reason but here I see no reason. This phone is fast and stable... why to change it?

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    I rooted only so that I can have the "Record" button on my call screen. If I want to record my calls I will. Why does that option have to be kept from us??
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    Quote Originally Posted by snc0921 View Post
    I rooted only so that I can have the "Record" button on my call screen. If I want to record my calls I will. Why does that option have to be kept from us??
    Maybe because you're recording a conversation with someone else? It's not just up to you if the phone call should be recorded

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