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    Question How to Avoid KitKat OTA on Galaxy Note 3

    Hello,

    I have the Tmobile Galaxy Note 3 and I currently have Jellybean 4.3 and my phone wants to upgrade itself to the buggy ridden 4.4.2 version of KitKat. My phone already downloaded the update but has yet to install it. How can I permanently delete the "update file" to ensure that my phone won't upgrade itself? I want to wait until 4.4.3 which I hope fixes all of the issues that the phones are having. Any ideas? Please help!!!
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    you must root it do disable update.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Umm my note 3 is just fine on KitKat. But anyway you'll need to root which will be fine because I believe Knox on screws you over if your on KitKat.

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    Question Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Amia,

    So you're on KitKat 4.4.2 and you've been having absolutely no issues with it? I've just read too many posts about people having severe problems with it that I am hesitant to upgrade. I do feel however that 4.4.3 is just around the corner and google will hopefulyl release it late this month. In terms of rooting the phone, is the Andriod Kingo Root the best rooting program. I believe it only works on phones with an OS of Jelly Bean 4.3 or lower and not any later versions which include KitKat, could you please confirm? I need your advice, should I upgrade to KitKat or root and avoid the update? I keep getting the notifcation that the KitKat update is available, would my phone automatially install it? I already downloaded the file onto my phone.

    Thank You,
    Atte: Arturo Guillen
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Any specific problems? Are they issues you know for sure will impact how you use the device? Remember, people that post in enthusiast forums will complain about EVERYTHING, including if the alignment of something is off by a couple pixels. That's why I ask if you know for sure that the bugs you're worried about will impact your usage. Also, "bugs" reported on one manufacturers devices may not be apparent in your device, due to manufacturer skins, for this reason you may be best to post in the forum specific to your device, to see if anyone has seen the bugs you're worried about.

    My Moto X is on 4.4.2 and has been working fine. I'm not a power user or heavy user by any means, but I haven't seen any issues. If you're waiting for a "bug-free" release, you'll be waiting a LONG time...
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    The specific problems are the ones outlined here and on other websites like: battery drain, wifi connectivity issues, data randomly stops working, phone heating up, screen staying black, and text messages not getting through. These are issues were even the most novice users would have a gripe about. I know people were complaining about these things as soon as they upgraded to KitKat 4.4.2, but like you said I'm still not sure if this is specific to my device. However, I have heard some T-mobile Note 3 users who have had no issues with the new KitKat and have actually seen improvements in their battery life, but it appears the majority of users are having problems. I understand no update will ever be 100% bug free, but I feel like google dropped the ball on this one. Just my two cents.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Why wouldn't you want some of that Kit-Katniss hunger game status!! lol
    My History of Phones.
    2007 - 2011 iPhone 2G 3G 3GS 4G
    2012 - 2013 Samsung Galaxy S3 S4
    2014 - Google Nexus 5
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Man, the CyanogenMod11 Kitkat ROM is worth the work! OTA KK comes with a whole brady bunch of samsung apps, google everything...I used to have JB 4.3 and KNOX was a b**** to deal with. glad im running CM11 now. Some days i dont even need to charge my phone, and the CPU is so held back from its potential. either way KK is better to have then 4.3, mostly because of battery consumption. but when you root and rom that its like getting a new phone.
    Galaxy S4 SGH-I337, Note 3 I9005, Tab 3 10 GT-P5210, Galaxy Express SGH-I437
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    Angry Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    @ Hallux
    Well I can certainly give you a few of specifics
    Both my girlfriend and my Samsung Galaxy S4 handsets have developed very serious faults since the KitKat upgrade


    Both handsets now badly overheat (so badly I have told my GF not to use hers anymore they are both going back to Carphone warehouse this weekend)
    Both handsets now have appalling battery life! (neither phone runs a working day any longer)
    Both handsets lock up a couple of times a day! (neither handset did it even once before this appalling bug ridden update)

    In addition:
    In their infinite wisdom sic! Google's band of arrogant incompetents have removed the settings button shortcut to Play Store in the Apps view yet more clicks to get to where you want to go! That is assuming the handset is cool enough to handle of course. This bunch make even Apple look like they know what they are doing little wonder they make it Sooo difficult to contact them!!


    This is just typical of software engineers they do not like testing, so , they don't do any!

    I am now trying to find some way to let Google know any help on that front would be great!
    Last edited by raggedsphincter; 05-08-2014 at 05:05 AM.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Quote Originally Posted by raggedsphincter View Post
    @ Hallux
    Well I can certainly give you a few of specifics
    Both my girlfriend and my Samsung Galaxy S4 handsets have developed very serious faults since the KitKat upgrade


    Both handsets now badly overheat (so badly I have told my GF not to use hers anymore they are both going back to Carphone warehouse this weekend)
    Both handsets now have appalling battery life! (neither phone runs a working day any longer)
    Both handsets lock up a couple of times a day! (neither handset did it even once before this appalling bug ridden update)

    In addition:
    In their infinite wisdom sic! Google's band of arrogant incompetents have removed the settings button shortcut to Play Store in the Apps view yet more clicks to get to where you want to go! That is assuming the handset is cool enough to handle of course. This bunch make even Apple look like they know what they are doing little wonder they make it Sooo difficult to contact them!!


    This is just typical of software engineers they do not like testing, so , they don't do any!

    I am now trying to find some way to let Google know any help on that front would be great!
    You need to remember, your update was released by SAMSUNG, not Google (unless you have a GPE S4). My Moto X does not heat up, access to the Play Store is dead simple (the shortcut was even in a group of Google apps placed on my home screen!) and my battery can make it through the day - with admittedly light use - with no problems.

    Your complaint should go to Samsung (unless you have a GPE device) as Samsung built, tested and released your update. If your phone isn't the GPE S4 you have Samsung's TouchWiz interface, that adds a whole other level of complexity to the update. BTW, some suggest doing a FDR (Factory Data Reset) after a major OS update, did you try that to resolve your issues?
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Quote Originally Posted by LightaDroid View Post
    Why wouldn't you want some of that Kit-Katniss hunger game status!! lol
    LightaDroid,

    Haha I know I would man lol

    Where do you get the "CyanogenMod11 Kitkat ROM "? Yeah I do hate that they throw in all of these ****ty apps with the phone. Call me ignorant but what exactly is "KNOX"? Could you post a link that shows me how to root and rom to that mod of KitKat please? Since I am a noob with these rooting procedures would Kingo Root be the best program to use or what do you guys recommend? Would Kingo Root be compatible with any phone on any OS? Sorry for all the questions

    Thank You,
    Arturo Guillen
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallux View Post
    You need to remember, your update was released by SAMSUNG, not Google (unless you have a GPE S4). My Moto X does not heat up, access to the Play Store is dead simple (the shortcut was even in a group of Google apps placed on my home screen!) and my battery can make it through the day - with admittedly light use - with no problems.

    Your complaint should go to Samsung (unless you have a GPE device) as Samsung built, tested and released your update. If your phone isn't the GPE S4 you have Samsung's TouchWiz interface, that adds a whole other level of complexity to the update. BTW, some suggest doing a FDR (Factory Data Reset) after a major OS update, did you try that to resolve your issues?
    I would like to add my Moto X running 4.4.2 has been the most stable phone I've used so far. No issues. I also had a play access icon and the phone only overheats on heavy use which is to be expected.

    Sent from my XT1052 using Tapatalk
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    whats wrong with 4.4.2 not had issues myself.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Duro, I suggest you locate the device-specific forum on the main forums page. In there you will likely find a section devoted to rooting and ROMs, you can find much of the info you seek there. You may also look at cyanogenmod.org for info on the ROM.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    I saw your post and had to chime in. How does your phone work with Jelly Bean? Does it give you major issues? Are you unhappy with its performance? Do you use an sd card? If you don't use an sd card and are unhappy with Jelly Bean then Kit Kat might be a good way to move. I discovered that I lose way more than I gain by switching to Kit Kat so I will never upgrade. I do not want to root my phone to return the sd card functionality I had before upgrading. I don't want to have to use a special flash .apk to be able to surf flash sites like I can now. I don't want worse battery life and I want my apps to have access to the sd card for backups and recordings.

    If you can back up your files do so and do full factory reset with a cache wipe. Hopefully that will remove the downloaded 'upgrade' off your phone and hope and pray you never get it again. I would also disable the software update app so you won't accidently upgrade in the future. Know if you do get Kit kat you can NEVER return to Jelly bean. If other people were uphappy with jelly bean and prefer kit kat more power to them but there is a reason why so many have complained about kit kat. I hope you can keep your phone the way YOU want it.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    My phone runs fine with Jelly Bean, no really major issues just maybe that I'd hope the battery life would last longer then it does. Sometimes I feel it is a big laggy and programs close unexpectedly but that is just an annoyance that is easy to get over. I currrently do not have an sd card, however I do plan on getting one in the near future and being able to save things on it. Can you specify what are the capabilities with the SD card with Jelly Bean vs KitKat. I think I read about it but I would appreciate if you broke it down for me. So you did upgrade to KitKat but are choosing not to root, correct? What app do I use for a full back-up? Most likely I will not upgrade based on what I've been reading here and everywehre else, but I am still very hesitant to root my device.

    Atte:
    Arturo Guillen
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Quote Originally Posted by darkmage619 View Post
    If you can back up your files do so and do full factory reset with a cache wipe. Hopefully that will remove the downloaded 'upgrade' off your phone and hope and pray you never get it again. I would also disable the software update app so you won't accidently upgrade in the future. Know if you do get Kit kat you can NEVER return to Jelly bean. If other people were uphappy with jelly bean and prefer kit kat more power to them but there is a reason why so many have complained about kit kat. I hope you can keep your phone the way YOU want it.
    It won't. The factory reset isn't exactly a "factory reset" in that it won't uninstall an OS update. Consider that the OS itself is doing the "factory reset", so if you updated to 4.4, 4.4 will return that device to what it would have been if it had shipped with that OS.

    I suggest doing the factory reset anyway, it might resolve some of the issues duro is seeing. Many people suggest doing the reset any time a major OS update is installed (4.2 to 4.4.2 would be one of those).

    The changes to SD access as I understand them are this: apps no longer have the ability to in any place they wish on the SD card. Jerry (from this site) explains the changes here
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    It won't. The factory reset isn't exactly a "factory reset" in that it won't uninstall an OS update. Consider that the OS itself is doing the "factory reset", so if you updated to 4.4, 4.4 will return that device to what it would have been if it had shipped with that OS.
    It was my understanding that he only downloaded the update. As long as it hasn't been installed a factory reset should delete that downloaded update file.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Ok so I had the LG G2 no problems nothing a few months in i noticed the Google.gapps popping up on reboots i thought nothing of it then i realized I wasn't able to send or receive picture messages by text over wifi i exchanged the phone twice thinking just a defect finally i decide to get rid of it an i went with the LG Flex had no problems yesterday i got the update for the Kit Kat an now i am having the same problem i did before with the G2 is anyone else having this issue?

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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Quote Originally Posted by darkmage619 View Post
    It was my understanding that he only downloaded the update. As long as it hasn't been installed a factory reset should delete that downloaded update file.
    DarkMage,

    That is correct I only downloaded the update onto my phone but haven't installed it. Would doing a factory reset get rid of that update file on my phone? Thanks for posting the link about the SD card hallux. Do you agree with google on what they did there?
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Honestly, I'm not exactly seeing what the "problem" actually is. I like that they're locking down the external storage to make it the same as the internal, where an app only has access to the folders it created or owns. This also (as Jerry put it) makes the SD card a little more tidy by not allowing things to just get tossed in anywhere.

    The only place I can see the "problem" is that it requires a format of the SD card (most likely), forcing the owner/user into a potential loss of data. As long as one is aware of this and makes a backup of the data stored on the card, no problem.

    I can't really form an opinion either way at this point as it has no impact on me. My Moto X, while it has 4.4.2, doesn't have an SD card. My tablet, an Acer Iconia A500, is only on ICS so it doesn't have this new feature. I will (soon) have a device with an SD and 4.4.2, and I'll probably have to format said SD card to make things work right. We'll see what happens but I may decide to start over with a blank card, or no card at all as the device will have 32 GB internal storage (double what my current tablet has). I'm replacing the Acer with a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014), bought on a deal from Woot on Friday, hasn't shipped yet.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Google are working on a fix, which could be included in the Android 4.4.3 update. However, we wouldn't be surprised if the update was pushed out as a priority ahead of the release of the next version of KitKat.
    Until the update is released you might want to avoid leaving the camera application running to improve battery life. You should also be aware that certain third-party applications (such as Skype) open the camera app automatically.
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallux View Post
    Honestly, I'm not exactly seeing what the "problem" actually is. I like that they're locking down the external storage to make it the same as the internal, where an app only has access to the folders it created or owns. This also (as Jerry put it) makes the SD card a little more tidy by not allowing things to just get tossed in anywhere.

    The only place I can see the "problem" is that it requires a format of the SD card (most likely), forcing the owner/user into a potential loss of data. As long as one is aware of this and makes a backup of the data stored on the card, no problem.

    I can't really form an opinion either way at this point as it has no impact on me. My Moto X, while it has 4.4.2, doesn't have an SD card. My tablet, an Acer Iconia A500, is only on ICS so it doesn't have this new feature. I will (soon) have a device with an SD and 4.4.2, and I'll probably have to format said SD card to make things work right. We'll see what happens but I may decide to start over with a blank card, or no card at all as the device will have 32 GB internal storage (double what my current tablet has). I'm replacing the Acer with a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014), bought on a deal from Woot on Friday, hasn't shipped yet.
    Hallux,

    Thanks for the feedback. How much did you get the Galaxy Note 10.1 for?
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    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    $390 plus tax and shipping. It's a factory refurbished unit.
  25. Thread Author  Thread Author    #25  

    Default Re: How to avoid KitKat 4.4.2 update?

    Hello all,

    As I am currently typing this message my phone has decided to automatically update to KitKat 4.4.2. I am very nervous and scared and a bit pissed off because I did not want to go ahead with the update but my phone decided to do it by itself. I will provide an update later to see how my phone is performing but I am not very optomistic due to all the negative reviews we've been getting about it. Has there been word about when KitKat 4.4.3 is supposed to release?

    Distraught Note 3 User
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