Note 4 RAM Discussion

[GoSidFlow]

Re: clearing ram

Thanks for posting that article. It was great to help me,a non tech peon, to understand how RAM works on the phone. I'll stop freaking out that my note 4 has 90% of its RAM in use!

 

[Nasa Offset]

Re: 3GB of RAM...?

my ram is always at 2.10 to 2.20 all the time is this bad ?

 

[Almeuit]

Re: 3GB of RAM...?

my ram is always at 2.10 to 2.20 all the time is this bad ?

Nope. No need to worry about RAM .

 

[Chuondroid]

Should I uninstall Clean Master?

 

[bassplayrguy]

Re: 3GB of RAM...?

This is disappointing to hear. I am always having to run a RAM cleaner on my Razr Maxx to stay below 90% used. Sounds like I may end up in the same boat.

What good does that do you?

Posted via the Android Central App

 

[goin_nil]

Re: 3GB of RAM...?

This is old school windows/microsoft thinking. Android keeps you that close on purpose. It uses all of the available RAM, and dumps things as it needs to. Every time you clear the RAM with a cleaner, you are preventing the OS from keeping certain things in memory that you might be using again soon. Thus making the OS faster in many circumstances. RAM management is virtually invisible in the background, the OS handles it.

Empty RAM isn't good for anything... so why have it? Its not eating up battery, it doesn't slow down your apps. You never get memory full errors.

Well said! Exactly right.

Stop worrying about how much RAM is used. I would be concerned if it wasn't using as much RAM as it could vs using too much. But, unless my phone is dog slow, who cares.

"Let Android do what Android does." - Forrest Gump
(I think he said that, didn't he?)

 

[twolastnames]

Should I uninstall Clean Master?

Yes, and also stop looking at your RAM usage. My question to all the RAM hawks, what exactly are you so worried about, and what good does checking it do? I can't think of a single reason to, other than to worry about the sky falling.

Posted via the Android Central App

 

[Klale0819]

Re: clearing ram

"any ram not used is bad ram" this is a poor and overused statement. RAM needs to be managed properly and available... not used up at all times and unavailable. When you can't do a simple task like star an email due to RAM not being available...that's a problem. This is my only issue with android and it almost makes me want to go back to iPhone. I hope lollipop addresses RAM management.

 

[rusty502]

Re: 3GB of RAM...?

Yes, Android does a good job with memory management, a lot better than the old gingerbread 2.4 did, BUT if there are services, apps, etc you know you will never use, you should always turn them off. There is no reason to run bloatware in the background if you never use it. After you've turned off the apps you don't use, then let Android handle the memory from then on.

It won't make any difference, if you shut it off Android will just load something else into that now cleared RAM, it is use x percentage of ram period

 

[rusty502]

Re: clearing ram

"any ram not used is bad ram" this is a poor and overused statement. RAM needs to be managed properly and available... not used up at all times and unavailable. When you can't do a simple task like star an email due to RAM not being available...that's a problem. This is my only issue with android and it almost makes me want to go back to iPhone. I hope lollipop addresses RAM management.

On modern versions of Android that is NOT going to happen......if in fact you are seeing performance problems such as this it is something other than RAM use causing the problem.

 

[udazavlanje]

Re: 3GB of RAM...?

Much talk here of dumping Touchwiz for some of the other alternatives. Do you guys know if switching to some of those that have been mentioned in this forum would cut away at the amount of ram used....enough to make it worthwhile?

Try the CleanRom. You can find it at
www.scottsroms.com
It's the original Samsung Image without Verizon bloat and options to have most of the Samsung crap removed before installing.

via AC App on VZW Moto X DE/N7

 

[bassplayrguy]

Re: clearing ram

So how can I clear more space from my alplications? I stop running apps but it still seems like I could clear more memory. This is what I currently show on my note 4 is this to much? Could I clear more?

Posted via the Android Central App

Clear more for what????? Unused RAM does you absolutely no good.

 

[LaTuFu]

Re: clearing ram

"any ram not used is bad ram" this is a poor and overused statement. RAM needs to be managed properly and available... not used up at all times and unavailable. When you can't do a simple task like star an email due to RAM not being available...that's a problem. This is my only issue with android and it almost makes me want to go back to iPhone. I hope lollipop addresses RAM management.

You are completely misunderstanding how RAM works in Android. If you're having that kind of issue with your email, it isn't the RAM utilization creating the problems. Your device has already loaded the email app in RAM to run its process. It doesn't need more RAM to mark it with a star.

These "oh no, my RAM!" threads are among the most tedious to read on any Android forum. Countless people come into the threads and bleat like sheep about how bad their RAM utilization is, what cleaner app to load, blahblahblahblah.

No matter how many times a guy like Almeuit tries to reassure everyone it isn't an issue, he gets ignored, but the next guy posting a "I use this app and it works great" comment is regarded as the hero. He must have said that at least 5 times in this thread alone.

Its like walking into a doctor's office and the doctor telling you your bloodwork is clean, the X-rays look great, go out and enjoy your life. Instead, you walk outside and find some random homeless guy on the street and ask him if he thinks you're dying of cancer because you found a mole on your arm today.

I'd laugh at these threads if it wasn't for the fact that this myth about RAM has persisted so strongly for so long. Its almost like Snopes should have a section on their site that says "Problems with RAM in Android? FALSE"

PS I'm aware I sound like a grumpy old man beating on a dead horse in a zombie thread. Fire away with your flamethrowers, I have my big boy pants on!

 

[shamdawg]

Right now I'm using 2.46GB out of 2.72 available. Phones running fast. No problems opening or running any apps. Not using any ram clean/wipe programs.

 

[Duncan1982]

Re: clearing ram

You are completely misunderstanding how RAM works in Android. If you're having that kind of issue with your email, it isn't the RAM utilization creating the problems. Your device has already loaded the email app in RAM to run its process. It doesn't need more RAM to mark it with a star.

These "oh no, my RAM!" threads are among the most tedious to read on any Android forum. Countless people come into the threads and bleat like sheep about how bad their RAM utilization is, what cleaner app to load, blahblahblahblah.

No matter how many times a guy like Almeuit tries to reassure everyone it isn't an issue, he gets ignored, but the next guy posting a "I use this app and it works great" comment is regarded as the hero. He must have said that at least 5 times in this thread alone.

Its like walking into a doctor's office and the doctor telling you your bloodwork is clean, the X-rays look great, go out and enjoy your life. Instead, you walk outside and find some random homeless guy on the street and ask him if he thinks you're dying of cancer because you found a mole on your arm today.

I'd laugh at these threads if it wasn't for the fact that this myth about RAM has persisted so strongly for so long. Its almost like Snopes should have a section on their site that says "Problems with RAM in Android? FALSE"

PS I'm aware I sound like a grumpy old man beating on a dead horse in a zombie thread. Fire away with your flamethrowers, I have my big boy pants on!

I agree and you can get with noobs but they can read I think lol

Its the way Android utilises Ram and I get with the frustration as it's been repeated many times but nothing sinks in.

In some ways it's like politics you can show someone clear evidence of corruption but they saw something pushed by corporate media and fiction then overrides facts.

Nothing stranger than folks lol

Posted via the Android Central App

 

[hdhuntr]

Whew...glad we got THAT cleared up. Now let's go straighten out all the "Battery Life" people. They all think the equivalent of 'cars are bad' because they either can't drive them at all or they drive them into trees.

 

[raptir]

Has anyone noticed that the Samsung Active Applications menu shows dramatically different usage than the built-in Android Applications -> Running menu? Right now I see 1.5GB used through Android, 2.37GB through the Samsung menu.

 

[hdhuntr]

Total guess but the guess is that Android doesn't even "see" a big chunk of the ram at all.

Has anyone noticed that the Samsung Active Applications menu shows dramatically different usage than the built-in Android Applications -> Running menu? Right now I see 1.5GB used through Android, 2.37GB through the Samsung menu.

 

[c4ffeineaddict]

For those of you not using something like clean master, are you using something else to clear cached junk files stored on the system, or does that fall in the same bucket as trying to free up RAM? when cleaning the junk files, they do seem to fill back up again pretty quickly so it does seem like it may just be a waste of time to bother with this. Thoughts?

 

[LaTuFu]

It's a waste of time. You don't need a cache cleaner.