Juice Defender

**mtech5** · 08-26-2012, 05:36 PM

My battery life is so much better with this app. I recommend it for everyone to get.

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**TgeekB** · 08-27-2012, 02:08 PM

It's all inyour head.

**adammcgovern** · 08-28-2012, 03:46 AM

Those apps actually don't improve battery. There's a great thread over at xda regarding wakelocks and ironically some of the biggest offenders are apps marketed as battery savers. Think about it though, how could an app that is constantly monitoring what's going on in your phone and i.e running saving your battery? Dump it, dump facebook(maybe use friendcaster), dump twitter(use tweetcaster) and do a lot of simple things like don't auto-sync, brightness etc and you will notice a huge difference without those apps. Other battery killers are calendar and alarm clock. Just my 2-cents and I'm in no way a dev or pro. Last but definitely not least, root your phone if you are comfortable with that

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**mtech5** · 08-28-2012, 08:53 PM

Whatever it is, it's working. Before I never could make it through the day without my phone going dead. Now it last.

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**mrro82** · 09-01-2012, 10:46 PM

Yea I'm gonna have to disagree with the naysayers. Juice Defender has worked great for me. When I got my Inspire the battery was (and still is) crap. JD is the only thing that saved me from ditching that phone. Even now I use it with my Skyrocket and I recommend it to everyone who uses an Android phone. They all remark how it saves them lots of battery throughout the day. Maybe you guys weren't setting it up right. Just saying.

**irish-68** · 09-01-2012, 10:57 PM

The battery saver apps do work, provided your phone is in an idle state. If it's constantly in use, there will be no difference. For the uninitiated, these apps merely turn off data service (i.e. 3G). Your phone typically uses a lot of power when data is active and constantly searching for the best signal. I've let my phone sit overnight and noticed hardly any loss of power with a battery saver, as opposed to without, where it will be nearly out of power. I recommend using a battery saver app.

**adammcgovern** · 09-02-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by mrro82

Maybe you guys weren't setting it up right. Just saying.

Definitely know how to set up my phone, and apps. V6 supercharger is the only thing that has helped my battery, but if jd works for you enjoy. There are other methods that are way more effective

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**mrro82** · 09-02-2012, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by irish-68

The battery saver apps do work, provided your phone is in an idle state. If it's constantly in use, there will be no difference. For the uninitiated, these apps merely turn off data service (i.e. 3G). Your phone typically uses a lot of power when data is active and constantly searching for the best signal. I've let my phone sit overnight and noticed hardly any loss of power with a battery saver, as opposed to without, where it will be nearly out of power. I recommend using a battery saver app.

Idle state is where you mainly lose battery anyway. When you aren't using it. If you're using it then yea. You're going to lose battery. I'm confused as to how you expect to save battery when it is in use.

**irish-68** · 09-02-2012, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by mrro82

Idle state is where you mainly lose battery anyway. When you aren't using it. If you're using it then yea. You're going to lose battery. I'm confused as to how you expect to save battery when it is in use.

Go back and read it again. I said that there is no difference with constant use. All the battery app does is turn off the data connection when idle. If data is in use, the app won't do any good.

The poo-pooers will say it's not needed, that one could just switch data off every time with the power widget. But that's really kind of a nuisance. That's for hardcore anal retentives! Why not automate the task?

**cqpearson** · 09-02-2012, 08:07 PM

Two quick points. First, my battery life improved tremendously when I dumped FB. Second, the App Better Battery Stats showed JD was using more than twice as much juice as the other apps. But I avoid mundane manual actions controlled by JD. So with very light use I get results seen in pic.

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**jldoom** · 09-04-2012, 09:54 PM

I don't use JD but uninstalling Facebook DEFINITELY saved me a ton of battery. It was ridiculous the change in power loss while my phone was idle. I turn off sync and barely have any apps that have the need to constantly run in the background, my battery lasts the entire day with moderate usage, love this phone again.

**reliefman1** · 09-05-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by irish-68

The poo-pooers will say it's not needed, that one could just switch data off every time with the power widget. But that's really kind of a nuisance. That's for hardcore anal retentives! Why not automate the task?

I agree! Without changing my usage habits, I was able to increase my battery life. Normally I would come home from work with 50% charge. I now come home with 65-70%. BTW, I have the Seidio extended battery.

**adammcgovern** · 09-06-2012, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by irish-68

The poo-pooers will say it's not needed, that one could just switch data off every time with the power widget. But that's really kind of a nuisance. That's for hardcore anal retentives! Why not automate the task?

God. There's always got to be one:thumbdown: Can't ever seem to have a decent discussion/debate over a topic w/o "that guy" jumping in. Mod please close, it's not as if theres not a million batt/jd threads anyway.

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**TgeekB** · 09-06-2012, 06:30 PM

I guess I just don't understand turning off functions like data to save battery life on a smart phone. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having one?

**adammcgovern** · 09-07-2012, 12:29 AM

I can see that pov. One way to get the best of both worlds, imo, is to set up profiles. One for when you're home, at work, and sleeping. That way it's a quick tappiteetaptap. The phone is really only as smart as the person operating it:rolleyes:

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**Beacio_mo** · 09-07-2012, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by gov

I can see that pov. One way to get the best of both worlds, imo, is to set up profiles. One for when you're home, at work, and sleeping. That way it's a quick tappiteetaptap. The phone is really only as smart as the person operating it:rolleyes:

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As soon as my NFC tags come in, I am so going to try this :thumbup:

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**adammcgovern** · 09-07-2012, 02:11 PM

What do you mean bro? I do it with the rom I'm running right now. Maybe I misunderstood?

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**mrro82** · 09-07-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by TgeekB

I guess I just don't understand turning off functions like data to save battery life on a smart phone. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having one?

You aren't exactly turning it completely off. You can set JD up to still have a connection open at certain times if you aren't in dire need to have everything right away. Gmail for instance, I have it and several other apps that need updating to ping every 15 minutes. So every 15 minutes, the connection goes active and I get my stuff updated. Having a smart phone doesn't mean you have to have a constant attachment to data. You can customize the hell out of Juice Defender.

**TgeekB** · 09-07-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by mrro82

You aren't exactly turning it completely off. You can set JD up to still have a connection open at certain times if you aren't in dire need to have everything right away. Gmail for instance, I have it and several other apps that need updating to ping every 15 minutes. So every 15 minutes, the connection goes active and I get my stuff updated. Having a smart phone doesn't mean you have to have a constant attachment to data. You can customize the hell out of Juice Defender.

Understood. One of the things that annoyed me when I tried it was the delay to connecting to my wifi when I brought it out of sleep.

**skyrocketeer** · 09-07-2012, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by TgeekB

Understood. One of the things that annoyed me when I tried it was the delay to connecting to my wifi when I brought it out of sleep.

Yep same here...I stopped having problems when I uninstalled this app. Ymmv.

**mrro82** · 09-08-2012, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by TgeekB

Understood. One of the things that annoyed me when I tried it was the delay to connecting to my wifi when I brought it out of sleep.

Very true. There is a bit of a delay in connecting to wifi when you wake it up. I honestly don't know if that can be resolved or not. It's one of those things I've just gotten used to. I wouldn't be surprised if you can fix it.

**skyrocketeer** · 09-11-2012, 05:08 PM

Ya, mine was not only slow to wake up, but it used to get stuck and crash a couple times a week trying to wake up. That said a lot of people love this app and if so keep using it. My opinion is that in order to get the most out of a phone like the Rocket...you need reserve batteries. That way you can let it all hang out.

**Blaize19** · 09-11-2012, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by skyrocketeer

Yep same here...I stopped having problems when I uninstalled this app. Ymmv.

Huh. I have mine set to always choose wifi if I'm on a learned network, and for it to be always on in that case. No delay.

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**sledge007** · 09-18-2012, 06:44 AM

Free, Plus or Ultimate? I'm going to download this app, and wondering if it's worth paying for, and if so, is it better for the $1.99 version, or should I just shell out the $4.99. I looked at the reviews in Play, but I didn't get enough detail to see which one I should get.

**mrro82** · 09-18-2012, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sledge007

Free, Plus or Ultimate? I'm going to download this app, and wondering if it's worth paying for, and if so, is it better for the $1.99 version, or should I just shell out the $4.99. I looked at the reviews in Play, but I didn't get enough detail to see which one I should get.

I bought the Ultimate version but I honestly have no clue what the differences between versions are. I've had it for over a year so they could have changed things around too.