Its a software release, hardware is dissapointing

**Crispy** · 05-03-2012, 02:08 PM

GS3 is the Nexus with a bigger screen and Exonys/S4. The design is really boring, the only good thing is it has a removable battery and microSD.

All the real improvements are in the software. They didn't mention a word about the sensor or optics which means its not really that good, all the focus was on social sharing.

TouchWiz does seem lighter than Sense 4.0 though.

**n0obpr0** · 05-03-2012, 02:30 PM

Agreed with the social sharing.

**SlimJ87D** · 05-03-2012, 02:34 PM

I don't understand how the hardware is disappointing... Was there anyone here really expect an octo-core or something?

We haven't even seen a benchmark yet or at all.

**DroidDev** · 05-03-2012, 02:36 PM

Actually they did talk about the Sensor and Optics. I dont recall what they said but I remember them talking about it.

**Crispy** · 05-03-2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by SlimJ87D

I don't understand how the hardware is disappointing... Was there anyone here really expect an octo-core or something?

We haven't even seen a benchmark yet or at all.

Pentile RGB instead of AMOLED+
Same plastic body instead of ceramic
Camera sensor without any specs (like aperture)
Boring design (compared to all the hype and renders)

Like I said the only good thing is the removable battery and microSD.

**newbey123** · 05-03-2012, 02:45 PM

The S3 will be a good phone for those that say they need a massive amount of storage and wanted to have a bigger battery.

I was close to canceling my One X order to hold out for this, but I am glad I didn't.

**SlimJ87D** · 05-03-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by ECrispy

Pentile RGB instead of AMOLED+
Same plastic body instead of ceramic
Camera sensor without any specs (like aperture)
Boring design (compared to all the hype and renders)

Like I said the only good thing is the removable battery and microSD.

I can understand your beef about the plastic, but the design is honestly personal preference. both those might be a better trade off than not having a removable battery and Micro SD card slot.

I bet my money that the CPU and GPU are better than the Tegra 3 and S4. To back up my claim here are the benchmarks

The wireless charging sounds awesome as well. As for the screen, I would like to see a comparison of it next to the One X and possibly power consumption information before I make a real critique. To back up my claim, engadget states that although the one X has denser pixels, the SAMOLED has better contrast. It's personal preference as to which is more beneficial to whom.

There are pros and cons for both, but it's definitely not a HTC One X MINUS "like you said."

**Crispy** · 05-03-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by SlimJ87D

I can understand your beef about the plastic, but the design is honestly personal preference. both those might be a better trade off than not having a removable battery and Micro SD card slot.

I bet my money that the CPU and GPU are better than the Tegra 3 and S4. The wireless charging sounds awesome as well. As for the screen, I would like to see a comparison of it next to the One X and possibly power consumption information before I make a real critique.

There are pros and cons for both, but it's definitely not a HTC One X MINUS "like you said."

I never said its a 'One X minus', in fact I think the software features are great and the fact that's its slimmer with a bigger battery. We know the cpu in US versions will be an S4. I'm certain the screen won't be as good as the One X since its Pentile, we'll see.

**s14tat** · 05-03-2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by ECrispy

GS3 is the Nexus with a bigger screen and Tegra 3/S4. The design is really boring, the only good thing is it has a removable battery and microSD.

All the real improvements are in the software. They didn't mention a word about the sensor or optics which means its not really that good, all the focus was on social sharing.

TouchWiz does seem lighter than Sense 4.0 though.

Tegra 3? You mean quad core exynos which is a much better processor than the tegra 3 and also a better processor than the S4.

**StinDaWg** · 05-03-2012, 09:05 PM

If you live in the U.S. the Exynos debate won't matter since we're 99% likely getting the S4.

**KoukiFC3S** · 05-03-2012, 09:52 PM

Exactly how I felt when I saw the unveiling. They are going for the mass consumers.

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**MannyZ28** · 05-03-2012, 10:00 PM

I found it interesting during the presentation how they mentioned other, apparently new attributes about the screen, like the fast refresh rate. No idea what the refresh rate on a GNex display is. Some people said the GS3's screen looked better than the GNex screen, in the end, most of us with human eyes won't be able to tell, the only difference most people will see is the + behind the Super Amoled missing on the box the phone comes in.

I have encountered quite a few iPhone 4s users that liked the rather low res 800 x 480 screen on my E4gT better than their screen, and I have seen quite a few iPad users that couldn't tell the difference between the iPad 2 and the new iPad. I am pretty finicky with stuff like this, and while I could see the difference between the two ipads, it didn't immediately pop out at me, and this is on a screen much larger and with a lower pixel density than either the GS3, GNex, iPhone 4S and HTC OneX, so for all you guys lamenting the lack of the +..... get a Sharpie, add it to the box.

I am sure if Samsung had the capability to stick the Amoled plus screen in the GS3, they would have done so, but again, manufacturing constraints probably didn't permit it. They didn't do it do **** the screen connoisseurs among us off.

**vinny jr** · 05-04-2012, 06:41 AM

Great hardware, the best hardware of any phone currently made. If you don't agree then you are lying to yourself or you are an I-Phone sheep.

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**WolvesWR18** · 05-04-2012, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by vinny jr

Great hardware, the best hardware of any phone currently made. If you don't agree then you are lying to yourself or you are an I-Phone sheep.

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Best hardware? The screen doesn'beat the One X for sure. Samsung thru HTC off the throne last year with the amazing GSII. But this year, I feel HTC has regained the crown, and many, many others feel the same.

**LazrRocketArm** · 05-04-2012, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by WolvesWR18

Best hardware? The screen doesn'beat the One X for sure. Samsung thru HTC off the throne last year with the amazing GSII. But this year, I feel HTC has regained the crown, and many, many others feel the same.

Many many others have not seen the new screen on the GSIII. They have not tried the new EXCLUSIVE software features. They have not felt or seen the new polycarbonate material (ONE X is polycarbonate too).
Seeing how it seems to be dominating in benchmarks (yes, realworld is king) I don't see what they could be basing their opinion on.

If you have a One X or plan on getting one, great for you. Sure it will be good.
But stop acting like a fanboy and trashing the SGSIII for nonsensical reasons.

Not sure if I get one or not. I want to see it in person, compare it side by side with the One X. Not getting the HTC (removable battery and expandable storage a must,personally).

EDIT: not to imply Wolve is a fanboy, just referring to many bashing the GSIII that are
May wait for something else.

**rlb** · 05-04-2012, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by WolvesWR18

Best hardware? The screen doesn'beat the One X for sure. Samsung thru HTC off the throne last year with the amazing GSII. But this year, I feel HTC has regained the crown, and many, many others feel the same.

The screen "might not" be better than the One X. The One X will probably be slightly better, but not the huge difference some people are suggesting. We don't know since we haven't seen it yet. Even Phil, who has seen it, said that the difference was very small. Other than the display, the S3 beats the One X in every other hardware spec.

Processor - in the US, gonna be the same S4 chip.
Battery - S3 will probably be better. Given the same S4 chip and a larger removable battery (2100 vs 1800 mAh).
On board storage: S3. optional 32/64 GB.
Removable storage: S3
Removable battery: S3
Wireless charging: S3
Camera: TBD but the S3 has a 1.9 MP front camera and can record 720p

So really the only area the One X will be better is the display. And it is not like the S3 display will be bad. It will still be better than anything out there, except the One X.

**BEARD GANG** · 05-04-2012, 01:21 PM

If jellybean upgrade is very good then I will be gettin the s3

**deesugar** · 05-04-2012, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by sir.mervyn.king

If jellybean upgrade is very good then I will be gettin the s3

It's rumored that Jellybean will be more of an update for tablets (kinda like Honeycomb) and possibly be incremental. Key Lime Pie will probably be the big update.

**BEARD GANG** · 05-04-2012, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by deesugar

It's rumored that Jellybean will be more of an update for tablets (kinda like Honeycomb) and possibly be incremental. Key Lime Pie will probably be the big update.

Yeh that's what I thought but everyone keeps sayin it's for the phone as well...

**Droid800** · 05-05-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by rlb

The screen "might not" be better than the One X. The One X will probably be slightly better, but not the huge difference some people are suggesting. We don't know since we haven't seen it yet. Even Phil, who has seen it, said that the difference was very small. Other than the display, the S3 beats the One X in every other hardware spec.

Processor - in the US, gonna be the same S4 chip.
Battery - S3 will probably be better. Given the same S4 chip and a larger removable battery (2100 vs 1800 mAh).
On board storage: S3. optional 32/64 GB.
Removable storage: S3
Removable battery: S3
Wireless charging: S3
Camera: TBD but the S3 has a 1.9 MP front camera and can record 720p

So really the only area the One X will be better is the display. And it is not like the S3 display will be bad. It will still be better than anything out there, except the One X.

The S3 does not win on internal storage. You won't see one in the us with more than 16gb. Is wireless charging standard or is it another expense? If its the latter, it is not an advantage.

The one x camera IS better than the S3's because the S3's is the same optics as the S2 with some software additions. The one x's camera is just plain better, period.

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**rlb** · 05-05-2012, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Droid800

The S3 does not win on internal storage. You won't see one in the us with more than 16gb. Is wireless charging standard or is it another expense? If its the latter, it is not an advantage.

The one x camera IS better than the S3's because the S3's is the same optics as the S2 with some software additions. The one x's camera is just plain better, period.

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You don't know what we will see in the US for storage options. Even so, it still has removable storage for those who may need it.

Of course for wireless charging you will have to buy the charging station. So it is an advantage since you don't have to buy a stick on device or replace the back. Personally I don't care about it but some do.

As for the camera, the S3 is supposedly using a brand new sensor, not the same one as the S2. I can't find the link now but I know I read this somewhere. Again, you don't really know how good or bad the S3 camera is since it is not out yet. Yes, the One X camera is excellent, so the S3 will have a tough time beating it. But we will have to see to make a fair evaluation.

**jeffreii** · 05-05-2012, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Droid800

The S3 does not win on internal storage. You won't see one in the us with more than 16gb. Is wireless charging standard or is it another expense? If its the latter, it is not an advantage.

The one x camera IS better than the S3's because the S3's is the same optics as the S2 with some software additions. The one x's camera is just plain better, period.

Even if they both have 16GB...the S3 has a MicroSD to add another 64GB...the One X is stuck at 16GB (10GB, actually).

According to Anandtech, the camera hardware is new:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...a-details.html

**Droid800** · 05-06-2012, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by jeffreii

Even if they both have 16GB...the S3 has a MicroSD to add another 64GB...the One X is stuck at 16GB (10GB, actually).

Duh. Actually read the post I was quoting though.

According to Anandtech, the camera hardware is new:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...a-details.html

The lens is the same. The sensor may be new, but the optics (the parts that have a huge impact on quality) are the same. Some SIII/One X picture comparisons were posted in the One X forum; the SIII looks identical to the SII, and totally subpar when compared to the One X.

Oh and just for a spec comparison: the One X has an f/2.0 lens, while the SIII has an f/2.6. That alone makes the SIII camera woefully inferior to the One X.

**Officerpolabear** · 05-06-2012, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by rlb

You don't know what we will see in the US for storage options. Even so, it still has removable storage for those who may need it.

Of course for wireless charging you will have to buy the charging station. So it is an advantage since you don't have to buy a stick on device or replace the back. Personally I don't care about it but some do.

As for the camera, the S3 is supposedly using a brand new sensor, not the same one as the S2. I can't find the link now but I know I read this somewhere. Again, you don't really know how good or bad the S3 camera is since it is not out yet. Yes, the One X camera is excellent, so the S3 will have a tough time beating it. But we will have to see to make a fair evaluation.

Well the AT&T HTC One X isn't the only One X variant. You're forgetting Sprint's HTC Evo 4G LTE, which does include removable storage, bigger battery, and a kickstand to top that all off. So really, the only thing it is missing is the removable battery.

**WolvesWR18** · 05-06-2012, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by LazrRocketArm

Many many others have not seen the new screen on the GSIII. They have not tried the new EXCLUSIVE software features. They have not felt or seen the new polycarbonate material (ONE X is polycarbonate too).
Seeing how it seems to be dominating in benchmarks (yes, realworld is king) I don't see what they could be basing their opinion on.

If you have a One X or plan on getting one, great for you. Sure it will be good.
But stop acting like a fanboy and trashing the SGSIII for nonsensical reasons.

Not sure if I get one or not. I want to see it in person, compare it side by side with the One X. Not getting the HTC (removable battery and expandable storage a must,personally).

EDIT: not to imply Wolve is a fanboy, just referring to many bashing the GSIII that are
May wait for something else.

No offense taken. Im no fanboy. Currently on the GSII. I just go with the best product available each year, and I believe this year the X One is the clear winner.

Samsung focused on software this year and it seems they took Touchwiz to a whole new level of ugly looks wise. The new software also seem like gimmicks or Apple copycat attempts, except for wireless charging. That may end being a big plus.

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