Samsung Galaxy S3: Connectivity demo-USB OTG, MHL, BT keyboard

**blitz118** · 06-11-2012, 10:54 AM

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IiRyigUH0[/YT]

**Suntan** · 06-11-2012, 11:46 AM

That's pretty sweet.... If lengthy.

One thing that wasn't completely clear, can a person plug a USB hub into the MHL adapter and maintain USB host capability to a lot of peripherals *and* have the video output to the TV?

-Suntan

**Auzo** · 06-11-2012, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by Suntan

That's pretty sweet.... If lengthy.

One thing that wasn't completely clear, can a person plug a USB hub into the MHL adapter and maintain USB host capability to a lot of peripherals *and* have the video output to the TV?

-Suntan

Unfortunately no. The way MHL works is its an either or proposition.

Depending on what cable is plugged in directly to the phone, the micro-usb port is either switched to the USB circuitry or the video mirroring circuitry. This is determined by the impedance of the cable that is hooked up to the phone.

**Geikamir** · 06-12-2012, 03:15 AM

Awesome video, thanks for the link.

Do Wii motion games work in this setup?

**Suntan** · 06-12-2012, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Auzo

Unfortunately no. The way MHL works is its an either or proposition.

Depending on what cable is plugged in directly to the phone, the micro-usb port is either switched to the USB circuitry or the video mirroring circuitry. This is determined by the impedance of the cable that is hooked up to the phone.

Well that stinks. I would think most people would want all that extra hookup support when they are actually at a larger screen.

If I had to find one fault with the GSIII, it would be the MHL connector. I would much rather have the separate HDMI and USB connectors like on Moto phones.

-Suntan

**NZtechfreak** · 06-12-2012, 07:33 AM

Always interesting Goog'ling for my own videos and seeing where they show up!

Indeed the mutually exclusive nature of USB OTG and MHL connections is a pain, hopefully they can address that in the next revision of the MHL spec.

Worth mentioning though that you could use USB OTG and display stuff on an HDTV using Samsung's AllShare Cast dongle, although I expect latency might ruin that for gaming.

Finally, I do also use a Seagate GoFlex Satellite 500GB drive with my S3 and MHL, as the satellite is able to stream (and has it's own power supply for maximum portability).

**NZtechfreak** · 06-12-2012, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Suntan

That's pretty sweet.... If lengthy.

You say lengthy, I say thorough

There are navigation links in the description so you can jump around and just check out the bits you want.

**blitz118** · 06-12-2012, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by NZtechfreak

Always interesting Goog'ling for my own videos and seeing where they show up!

Indeed the mutually exclusive nature of USB OTG and MHL connections is a pain, hopefully they can address that in the next revision of the MHL spec.

Worth mentioning though that you could use USB OTG and display stuff on an HDTV using Samsung's AllShare Cast dongle, although I expect latency might ruin that for gaming.

Finally, I do also use a Seagate GoFlex Satellite 500GB drive with my S3 and MHL, as the satellite is able to stream (and has it's own power supply for maximum portability).

Thanks for the informative video. I hope you stick around here. This forum is more active than the blue forum.

**Suntan** · 06-12-2012, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by NZtechfreak

You say lengthy, I say thorough

No. No... I enjoy watching a couple of laps of mario kart as much as the next guy...

I may have to get one of those classic wii controllers. I have the DSIII controller and app, but I don't usually like to root my phone right off the bat. Yet I want the ability to plug into a bigger TV.

-Suntan

**NZtechfreak** · 06-12-2012, 08:11 PM

You don't need root for anything in the video

**Suntan** · 06-12-2012, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by NZtechfreak

You don't need root for anything in the video

Yeah, I got that.

But if I wanted to use my DSIII controller *and* plug the phone into the TV, I'd need to run the controller wirelessly via the sixaxis controller app, correct? The GSIII doesn't natively recognize the DSIII controller via BT does it?

-Suntan

**NZtechfreak** · 06-12-2012, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Suntan

Yeah, I got that.

But if I wanted to use my DSIII controller *and* plug the phone into the TV, I'd need to run the controller wirelessly via the sixaxis controller app, correct? The GSIII doesn't natively recognize the DSIII controller via BT does it?

-Suntan

Ah, sorry, you mean PS3 controller? Yes, Root and Sixaxis required for that (it is awesome though, been playing Nova 3 with that setup on HDTV and wirelessly controlling with PS3 controller).

**Tkbredx** · 06-12-2012, 10:46 PM

One word... WOW

**jrob214** · 06-13-2012, 01:34 AM

These MHL adapter are listed as being compatible with the S3. Can anyone here confirm them as being legit or should i just assume they're fake?

**NZtechfreak** · 06-13-2012, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by jrob214

These MHL adapter are listed as being compatible with the S3. Can anyone here confirm them as being legit or should i just assume they're fake?

They may not be fakes, but they won't work with the S3. Those are the older ones that work with the S2/Note/everything else ever made with MHL, Samsung changed the pin arrangement in the S3 so they no longer work (grrr). Lots of honest sellers are listing them as compatible since they anticipated they would be, seeing as how MHL is meant to be a connection standard. Check the specific S3 one at Clove.co.uk and grab the model number and search for that (also check how it looks, since the appearance of the adapter is different also).

**jrob214** · 06-13-2012, 10:15 AM

Thanks. Definitely going to check into the model numbers.

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**mpmtkd** · 06-14-2012, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by NZtechfreak

They may not be fakes, but they won't work with the S3. Those are the older ones that work with the S2/Note/everything else ever made with MHL, Samsung changed the pin arrangement in the S3 so they no longer work (grrr). Lots of honest sellers are listing them as compatible since they anticipated they would be, seeing as how MHL is meant to be a connection standard. Check the specific S3 one at Clove.co.uk and grab the model number and search for that (also check how it looks, since the appearance of the adapter is different also).

Damn.. Hopefully the 10 dollar MHL adapters will work that I ordered..

Question - Is it possible to connect 2 controllers via BT like the retro wireless wii controllers and use them for multiplayer? (same goes for PS3 controller or using a hub)

Thanks

**ellsswhere** · 06-15-2012, 04:42 PM

Does Sixaxis Controller support the S3 yet? I have been trying to work out a portable N64 system since my Evo 4G days.

**Uncle Louie** · 06-16-2012, 04:06 PM

Has USB OTG been confirmed anywhere for the US? I remember watching NZTechFreak's SII video regarding connectivity (his videos are fantastic, as is his site), only to discover that my Epic Touch couldn't use it...

**NZtechfreak** · 06-18-2012, 08:01 PM

Demo and guide for using Sixaxis controller with the S3:

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gq_ZU9p5Nk[/YT]

**Suntan** · 06-18-2012, 08:26 PM

You're seriously compromising my resolve to not root the phone right away...

I haven't had a ton of success using the sixaxis app in the past (mostly due to onscreen button requirements) but it looks like the developer has really improved it from the last time I used it.

Here's a question (or possibly a suggestion for a future video) which wireless controller option offers the best combination of gameplay quality and universal support in popular games.

How does the sixaxis compare to the wii wireless retro and/or those new Nyko playpads. Or are there any other wireless options that operatewith the GSIII w/o needing root?

-Suntan

**NZtechfreak** · 06-19-2012, 03:28 AM

Because of the Sixaxis app I'd probably give the PS3 controller the nod for overall best gamepad for use with the S3, but obviously this requires Root (should also mention that USB/BT controller has a Root required touch emulation add-on too, which probably means other controllers like the WiiMotes and Phonejoy can be used in the same way as the PS3 controller to control games without native gamepad support).

Besides the PS3 controller I would probably go for the Phonejoy - Dancing Pixel Studios who make Sixaxis Controller have an app for Bluez IME-supported gamepads like the Phonejoy to make the system see them as a natively supported gamepad.

**paulyb37** · 07-22-2012, 04:00 PM

Having watched the YouTube vid I ordered a utg cable and used a thumb drive, brilliant! I then tried my hp passport but I can't see it. The power light comes on but I can't access it - ideas please?!

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**Bo Martins** · 12-29-2012, 03:10 AM

Thanks Auzo for the answer and thanks Suntan for asking. I was wondering that myself.

**Bo Martins** · 12-29-2012, 03:14 AM

I am having a couple of problems with the MHL adapter:
One issue with the MHL adapter is that when connected it cuts off audio bluetooth transmission to my stereo. Really annoying as want to use my computer monitor as the HDMI device and my stereo for audio.
Another issue is that the image on the computer monitor is very unsharp despite the HDMI connection because the native resolution of the monitor does not match that of the SG3. Maybe by installing ubuntu on the SG3 it is possible to drive the computer monitor in its native resolution. Has anyone tried it?