Jellybean

**matt0715** · 06-27-2012, 12:31 PM

Jellybean is looking AMAZING. Do you think the s3 will get a full stock Jellybean rom? Will it be upgraded to Jellybean with all of its cool new features? I don't know but I hope!

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**gunner49** · 06-27-2012, 12:36 PM

Interesting I was just reading a blog on this. Considering it isn't really even out yet, it will be a ways down the road. Eventually yes IMO. But not even close now.

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**Mikest** · 06-27-2012, 12:44 PM

Im sure a rom will come out eventually. The processors in the US version are quite common so that should help. Oddly as much as Id like jbean I find myself wondering if its worth losing touchwiz and all its customizations. Yes I'm insane, I like TW.

**hoovhartid** · 06-27-2012, 02:09 PM

I'm sure there will be stock roms ported over, but samsung will release this for the S3 with TW (international first most likely)

think it may be a few months before we see it.

looking forward to the system optimization ...similar to

(one can dream)

**Crispy** · 06-27-2012, 02:09 PM

JB looks fantastic. But sadly, devices other than Nexuas have a bad history when it comes to updates.

**Mikest** · 06-27-2012, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by hoovhartid

I'm sure there will be stock roms ported over, but samsung will release this for the S3 with TW (international first most likely)

think it may be a few months before we see it.

looking forward to the system optimization ...similar to

(one can dream)

not to be a debbie downer but months in my previous experiene means 8 to 10.

Then again all the US GSIIIs are the same.

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**Lucki** · 06-27-2012, 02:47 PM

Should I give my sga3 back and wait for the next nexus or what?

**matt0715** · 06-27-2012, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by IND3LIBLE

Should I give my sga3 back and wait for the next nexus or what?

Nah I wouldn't

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**Lucki** · 06-27-2012, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by matt0715

Nah I wouldn't

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But doesn't it annoy you? I mean barely any devices have ics and here comes jelly bean.. the sgs3 won't get it till.like December and by then they will have another os coming out! Ugh.

**hoovhartid** · 06-27-2012, 03:09 PM

cool vid showing some new features...really cool updates to the picture app as well as notification bar...

**Quis89** · 06-27-2012, 03:44 PM

Have any of the S2s received ICS yet? That would be my reference point.

**matt0715** · 06-27-2012, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by IND3LIBLE

But doesn't it annoy you? I mean barely any devices have ics and here comes jelly bean.. the sgs3 won't get it till.like December and by then they will have another os coming out! Ugh.

Yeah it does annoy me, but theres always custom roms and this phone is going to have TONS of dev support.

**dwd3885** · 06-27-2012, 04:31 PM

I think CM10 or whatever will come to the S3 very quickly. You may just have to wait a month or two, hardly that long because the S3 is way better than the Nexus.

**Lucki** · 06-27-2012, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Quis

Have any of the S2s received ICS yet? That would be my reference point.

Sprint's version has not received it yet!

**Cruiserdude** · 06-27-2012, 04:58 PM

Considering Google themselves promoted it with the Galaxy Nexus, I wouldn't hold your breath for a new Nexus phone anytime real soon. If anyone else watched the Google I/O keynote, you'll remember that they released the code, SDK, and PDK (platform aka hardware development kit) today, and the attendees' free GNex's will be getting updates this evening, despite Jellybean not officially launching until mid-July. And that the top 5 Android manufacturers (which of course includes Samsung) have had access to early versions of the code, in order to shape its development and have early access to begin optimizing it to their devices.

Considering these changes, and that Jellybean appears to be a very similar framework to ICS (though honestly including far more features than I expected), I would expect we won't have to wait nearly as long. Granted, Samsung will want to push their customized additions to ICS for a few months before overwhelming everyone with the new improvements in Jellybean (considering the vast majority of SGS3 buyers will just be getting their first taste of ICS). In fact, it wouldn't make sense for them to roll it out immediately, customers simply wouldn't be able to understand all the new features. But come late-summer/early-fall, when some of the features are a bit stale, and the new crop of phones, including the iPhone5, are on the horizon, a Jellybean update would be just the thing to reinvigorate SGS3 sales, and I think it would be feasible to have one ready in a few more months.

But yes, I would expect the AOKP and CM teams to bring us some Jellybean goodness sooner rather than later.

**BEARD GANG** · 06-27-2012, 05:03 PM

What are all these stock roms etc.. ive never used these before..how does it work...whats the risks ?

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**EVO28312** · 06-27-2012, 05:07 PM

I bought an s3 and think it'll be my last non nexus phone. nexus phones have been sub par when it comes to hardware as most other top phones ex s3 one x etc blow it out the water. I have a feeling Google from now on will step up there game in the hardware department and there will be no reason to not want a nexus

**ansextra** · 06-27-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by EVO28312

I bought an s3 and think it'll be my last non nexus phone. nexus phones have been sub par when it comes to hardware as most other top phones ex s3 one x etc blow it out the water. I have a feeling Google from now on will step up there game in the hardware department and there will be no reason to not want a nexus

I can think of one. Google doesn't seem to be playing nicely with Verizon and Verizon is the best carrier in my area. I'm not planning on switching carriers.

**quake101** · 06-27-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by hoovhartid

I'm sure there will be stock roms ported over, but samsung will
looking forward to the system optimization ...similar to

(one can dream)

Looking forward to the system optimizations myself but, where do you see they will be similar to LINARO?

**Mikest** · 06-27-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Quis

Have any of the S2s received ICS yet? That would be my reference point.

All of them but Sprint. Of course the Sprint version was the only one with Wimaxx, a notification light and bigger screen. Not sure if those differences are responsible for the delay or maybe Sprint wants to sell a few more GSIII's but the Epic Touch 4G owners are still waiting

**hoovhartid** · 06-27-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by quake101

Looking forward to the system optimizations myself but, where do you see they will be similar to LINARO?

well...I may have put 2 and 2 together here and gotten 5...but when I watched , they mention the fps going from 30something to 60something using their optimization...

and now Google mentions their project butter saying "the entire interface runs at 60 frames per second on sufficiently fast hardware"

I can't find the video now, but somewhere i remember seeing someone from the Linaro group mention taking their work back to Google for it to be implemented in future updates.

Also I know CM has been using it to optimize their ROM as well.

The basic idea IIRC is that they are focusing on optimizing the Linux code to perform better for Android. How it was described to me was... Google is focusing on updating and creating new features for their OS and to get some to work, they made some dirty patches in the Linux code in order to get it to run. The Linaro group identifies these problems, fixes the code and removes the no longer needed patches causing the OS to run faster and more efficiently.
They then sent their findings to google.

maybe im wrong, but that's how I understood it

**mekano** · 06-27-2012, 06:26 PM

What phones are going to be able to get Jelly Bean???

@dbeger14

**Tkbredx** · 06-27-2012, 07:21 PM

Good news. Article says we got the extra GB of ram specifically for jelly bean. ()

Also carriers all have the same hardware except for the international versions. And carriers have barely any bloatware. I feel much more comfortable with updates these upcoming years

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**vr002sh** · 06-27-2012, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Quis

Have any of the S2s received ICS yet? That would be my reference point.

Yes, the T-Mobile SII did. I put it on mine, was a little slow. Glad I got the S3. Know anyone who wants to buy a gently used SII with ICS?

**quake101** · 06-27-2012, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by hoovhartid

well...I may have put 2 and 2 together here and gotten 5...but when I watched , they mention the fps going from 30something to 60something using their optimization...

and now Google mentions their project butter saying "the entire interface runs at 60 frames per second on sufficiently fast hardware"

I can't find the video now, but somewhere i remember seeing someone from the Linaro group mention taking their work back to Google for it to be implemented in future updates.

Also I know CM has been using it to optimize their ROM as well.

The basic idea IIRC is that they are focusing on optimizing the Linux code to perform better for Android. How it was described to me was... Google is focusing on updating and creating new features for their OS and to get some to work, they made some dirty patches in the Linux code in order to get it to run. The Linaro group identifies these problems, fixes the code and removes the no longer needed patches causing the OS to run faster and more efficiently.
They then sent their findings to google.

maybe im wrong, but that's how I understood it

IIRC, Linaro focused on optimizing the Linux code that assisted mostly CPU and they didn't touch the GPU as they didn't have the GPU source code. Google on the other hand looks like they mostly focused on GPU; vsync timing, tripple buffering, etc.

With that said (and I'm correct), there maybe more CPU optimizations that can be done from Linaro's work.

Overall, I think it's a very good time for Android!