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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ2b2c View Post
    I had read about a power setting that was suppose to generate bad numbers because the factor used for Cell Standby was 10 times what it was suppose to be. Hmmm, maybe that person who set the number knew something we don't???
    That bug just related to the issue of reporting which services and applications used what percentage of the consumed battery power. Android was overreporting the percentage consumed by Cell Standby in relation to other services. It has nothing to do with TOTAL actual amount or % of battery consumed - which is the issue here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Franco View Post
    That bug just related to the issue of reporting which services and applications used what percentage of the consumed battery power. Android was overreporting the percentage consumed by Cell Standby in relation to other services. It has nothing to do with TOTAL actual amount or % of battery consumed - which is the issue here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ2b2c View Post
    Just read through the above thread. Thanks for all of the good info. I believe I am one of those with an impacted phone. Battery loss of 10%+ per hour with nothing going on and cell standby the only big user. Couldn't make it through the night with a full charge just sitting on my night-stand. Did all of the basic battery saving tips with little change. This problem overshadows all of those "turn this off/disable this" type of tips.

    However, based on what I read. I turned my S3 off (had not done so since it was new about 6 weeks ago), took out the battery for about 10 minutes, replaces the battery and fully charged without turning back to on. Started my phone back up 17 hrs ago, and battery is at 79%! Have used it some but not much (mostly BT stream to my car radio).

    This interum fix has worked for me to this point. I will watch for the plunge again, and will probably only do the power off/on next time.

    Sorry, I don't have the skill set to offer any productive insight to a fix, but appreciate everyones help. The guys at the AT&T store acted like it was just me (that gets so old).

    Thanks...

    Update... made a few calls, lite use, still at 74% after 21:23. Hope I don't hit the battery usage cliff!
    Update... 25 hrs and at 68%, some moderate use.
    Update... 1d 15h and at 48%
    Update... 2 days and at 41% (more than happy if this would continue)

    The power off/on seems to have killed whatever was killing my battery. Will update if it returns.


    After a week, no more problems. Usage appr 1% per hour with lite/moderate use. Not sure what caused or fixed my problem, but glad it's gone!
    Just a quick follow-up... After doing the power-off/charge/power-on process described above, I have not seen the return of the plummet. I have now re-enabled most of the stuff I had disabled trying to reduce battery usage, and still do not have a problem. Battery now will last 48 hours even with fairly moderate to heavy use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ2b2c View Post
    Just a quick follow-up... After doing the power-off/charge/power-on process described above, I have not seen the return of the plummet. I have now re-enabled most of the stuff I had disabled trying to reduce battery usage, and still do not have a problem. Battery now will last 48 hours even with fairly moderate to heavy use.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ2b2c View Post
    Just a quick follow-up... After doing the power-off/charge/power-on process described above, I have not seen the return of the plummet. I have now re-enabled most of the stuff I had disabled trying to reduce battery usage, and still do not have a problem. Battery now will last 48 hours even with fairly moderate to heavy use.

    Good luck!
    I have to wonder if they found the problem and fixed it. I haven't had the plummet since before Christmas. Before that, it was happening on a near-daily basis while at work. I got in the habit of restarting my phone every morning while walking from my car to my office and the plummet has not happened. I don't know if it's a result of my restarting or if something was fixed. It could very well have been something set wrong by the carriers or manufacture (i.e., some function "phoning home" to samsung or a carrier) that was finally tracked down and fixed.

    Either way, it doesn't look like anyone is still complaining about it, so the problem may be over.

    I'll try going a few days at work without restarting my phone in the morning to see if the problem returns.
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    I posted on this forum a few weeks ago. My issue has also gotten better recently. I've been rebooting more regularly. And I have also been clearing RAM...which works wonders!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KreepyKen View Post
    I have to wonder if they found the problem and fixed it. I haven't had the plummet since before Christmas. Before that, it was happening on a near-daily basis while at work. I got in the habit of restarting my phone every morning while walking from my car to my office and the plummet has not happened. I don't know if it's a result of my restarting or if something was fixed. It could very well have been something set wrong by the carriers or manufacture (i.e., some function "phoning home" to samsung or a carrier) that was finally tracked down and fixed.

    Either way, it doesn't look like anyone is still complaining about it, so the problem may be over.

    I'll try going a few days at work without restarting my phone in the morning to see if the problem returns.
    The problem is not gone. I still get the plummet if I don't reboot once (or sometimes twice) a day. First thing I do every morning is reboot. Despite this, I still get the plummet late afternoon/evening every 2-3 days. My phone alerts me if the battery is dropping and I reboot it again to stop it.

    I'm used to it so it's hardly a problem anymore...just a bit of a pain in the **** I've learned to deal with effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffreii View Post
    The problem is not gone. I still get the plummet if I don't reboot once (or sometimes twice) a day. First thing I do every morning is reboot. Despite this, I still get the plummet late afternoon/evening every 2-3 days. My phone alerts me if the battery is dropping and I reboot it again to stop it.

    I'm used to it so it's hardly a problem anymore...just a bit of a pain in the **** I've learned to deal with effectively.
    That sucks. Got my hopes up for a minute there. I'll give it a go without my daily reboot for a few days and see how that goes.
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    Nope...problem still exists. I went into work without rebooting and had the plummet.

    Seems that rebooting the phone every morning is actually working for me.
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    Ken, is this problem still happening to you? Did you ever apply the debugging approach in this thread to see if QOSMGR was the issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    Ken, is this problem still happening to you? Did you ever apply the debugging approach in this thread to see if QOSMGR was the issue?

    Android System eating your battery? Check this.
    Hasn't happened in a few days, so I haven't had the opportunity to check. I'll report back next time it happens.
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    So I'm still dealing with my AT&T LET signal issue. No drains with my Note, had no more with my S3. AT&T called me back today and tells me why there it's such bad signal here now with LTE. None of the 3 towers around me, within 2 miles of me actually, are facing this area now. They turned one of the towers away when they turned on LTE and now they have to fix it. They have knocked out good signal for hundreds and hundreds of people. Took almost 3 months and 5 phones to get to the bottom of this.

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    This is to confirm the LTE battery drain issue. With LTE enabled, some phones (mine) will discharge in the standby mode, fast enough to raise the temperature of the case so that it is warm to the touch.

    I searched and searched and tried everything offered up on the internet everywhere, but it wasn't until I found this thread that I finally got to the bottom of the battery drain issue.

    An OS update was pushed over-the-air a few days ago, and presto, battery drain issue came back. Now I've got this thread bookmarked.

    Here's how to disable LTE:

    1) With phone on, take off back cover and press your SIM card so it releases from the spring. It won't come all the way out as it's blocked by the battery. This seems fine - I didn't bother trying to force it out as I didn't want to break anything...
    2) Once you see the message that the SIM card is removed, go to the dialer and dial *#2263#
    3) You should see a menu with band selections. The current setting is "Automatic". If you switch to "GSM All", you will be EDGE (2G). If you switch to "WCDMA All", you will be on HSPA+ (3G, though AT&T and others call it 4G).
    4) Press the SIM card back into place until it clicks. For whatever reason the phone will not recognize it until you reboot. Upon reboot you should see your new setting in effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinerSevenTango View Post
    This is to confirm the LTE battery drain issue. With LTE enabled, some phones (mine) will discharge in the standby mode, fast enough to raise the temperature of the case so that it is warm to the touch.

    I searched and searched and tried everything offered up on the internet everywhere, but it wasn't until I found this thread that I finally got to the bottom of the battery drain issue.

    An OS update was pushed over-the-air a few days ago, and presto, battery drain issue came back. Now I've got this thread bookmarked.

    Here's how to disable LTE:

    1) With phone on, take off back cover and press your SIM card so it releases from the spring. It won't come all the way out as it's blocked by the battery. This seems fine - I didn't bother trying to force it out as I didn't want to break anything...
    2) Once you see the message that the SIM card is removed, go to the dialer and dial *#2263#
    3) You should see a menu with band selections. The current setting is "Automatic". If you switch to "GSM All", you will be EDGE (2G). If you switch to "WCDMA All", you will be on HSPA+ (3G, though AT&T and others call it 4G).
    4) Press the SIM card back into place until it clicks. For whatever reason the phone will not recognize it until you reboot. Upon reboot you should see your new setting in effect.
    There's a new method for disabling LTE without having to mess with the SIM card. Check out the original thread, which has been updated:
    [How to] disable LTE on AT&T S3 (you can disable HSPA+ too)
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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    Ken, is this problem still happening to you? Did you ever apply the debugging approach in this thread to see if QOSMGR was the issue?

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    Experiencing the plummet right now. No sign of QOSMGR at all in the debug list. Been watching it update for a couple minutes and it hasn't appeared at all.

    Back to rebooting every morning. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by KreepyKen View Post
    Experiencing the plummet right now. No sign of QOSMGR at all in the debug list. Been watching it update for a couple minutes and it hasn't appeared at all.

    Back to rebooting every morning. :/
    I can also confirm I've had the plummet twice now and watched the processes closely for gsiff_daemon and/or QOSMGR. Neither appeared even once, from what I saw.

    No doubt QOSMGR might be the culprit for some - much as the gsiff_daemon is for others. However, for the "plummet", which has only been cured by disabling LTE, QOSMGR does not appear to be involved.
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    My battery plummet issue is location specific. It happens when I arrive home from work. My battery discharges appropriately at work. When I get home, my phone will switch to my home wifi from 4G LTE. The battery will start discharging 1% every few minutes. I tried turning off wifi, data when I'm at home, but the drain will continue. If I restart the phone, the battery plummet stops.

    I've tried different batteries, and AT&T sent me a replacement phone to try out, but it still occurred. I haven't tried turning off 4G LTE and using HSPA instead. It must be something with the software or design flaw in the hardware.

    I've simply resigned myself to restart the phone each time I get home. It's only a minor bother, but I've spent too much time troubleshooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Magm View Post
    My battery plummet issue is location specific. It happens when I arrive home from work. My battery discharges appropriately at work. When I get home, my phone will switch to my home wifi from 4G LTE. The battery will start discharging 1% every few minutes. I tried turning off wifi, data when I'm at home, but the drain will continue. If I restart the phone, the battery plummet stops.

    I've tried different batteries, and AT&T sent me a replacement phone to try out, but it still occurred. I haven't tried turning off 4G LTE and using HSPA instead. It must be something with the software or design flaw in the hardware.

    I've simply resigned myself to restart the phone each time I get home. It's only a minor bother, but I've spent too much time troubleshooting.
    I know exactly how you feel. I spent so much time trying to figure this out that I stopped enjoying my phone. I stopped installing apps or doing anything with it, really, for the sake of collecting evidence. I finally decided just to enjoy my phone and reboot it once or twice a day to avoid the plummet. Turning off LTE worked but I miss LTE too much - if I were able to go without LTE I'd have bought a Nexus 4.

    I agree that it must be location specific since this issue does not effect all users or even all LTE users. That's probably the reason we won't see a fix aside from perhaps tower changes in our areas eliminating the problem somehow, largely by mistake.
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    God help me


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    Quote Originally Posted by nolittdroid View Post
    God help me
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    I wouldn't say your graph is conclusively the plummet...but definitely some hints there...only thing is there could be explanations. First drop in the beginning you had GPS on - maybe navigation with the screen off? I'm not sure what that straight down drop of like 8% is right at the end of the GPS time. The rest seems fairly normal until that last hour or so, which sure looks like a plummet even though there's a good amount of screen on time there as well...
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    I think I fell asleep early around 34%, then woke up and actually watched the battery drop to 6% out of nowhere!

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    When I had the plummet, I went to sleep with it at 100% and it woke me up 6.5 hours later beeping and it was at 14%.

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    Default Re: [Help][50% SOLVED] LTE = random heavy battery drain aka "plummet"

    As I've said before: any time you're going to sleep without putting your phone on the charger, it would be very wise to reboot, hopefully forestalling the plummet so you don't wake up to a dead battery...or not wake up at all because the alarm did not go off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffreii View Post
    As I've said before: any time you're going to sleep without putting your phone on the charger, it would be very wise to reboot, hopefully forestalling the plummet so you don't wake up to a dead battery...or not wake up at all because the alarm did not go off!
    I just had it that one time, I generally charge at night. I'm on the N2 now, haven't had a plummet on it.

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    I had to join because I am having this same issue and I have an idea.

    I seem to have the plummet problem every 2-3 days. My day will be going along great and my battery dropping very slowly. Then in the evening, the battery suddenly takes a dive and the phone heats up. The only thing that will fix it is turning on airplane mode or rebooting.

    I am on AT&T and running Liquidsmooth ROM (which in NOT Touchwiz based). Incidentally, I noticed this plummet issue before and after installing a custom rom.

    I have notice this: The plummet, if it occurs, happens at the same time of day. For me, it will only occur around 6:30 PM EDT. I noticed other people in this thread talking about evening as well. Does anyone else with this problem notice it happening at a specific time during the day?
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