Anyone else eager to LAUGH at what apple has to offer Sept 12th?

Ry · 09-05-2012, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by ThatTechHead

I hate to hate, but current Sony phones have 12 megapixel cameras, i know its not all about the megapixels but they take incredibly detailed photos and android doesn't need a dual core 1.5 ghz cpu and 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly, i think some legacy software (2.3) and bad hardware combos from the past couple years has put a bad taste in a lot of apple fans mouths. This is the time to hop on our train. Even if your not into an android phone, pick up a nexus 7.

Sent from my LG Optimus Elite, bone stock.

That's more a product of the optimizations that Jelly Bean brought.

I'm on the Android train, but not blindly.

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Ry · 09-05-2012, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by six8

They'll still sell a bazillion phones and still have billions of cash.... Big deal.

But apparently Apple is scared. :rolleyes:

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**Rev2010** · 09-05-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by dafoot2

Word on the web is Samsung is gonna sue if Iphone5 has lte...any ideas when that would happen...could that delay the iPhone's big debut?

LTE are mostly a FRAND patents... does anyone even know if Apple is simply paying for the licensing or are trying to play a "suck it" attitude 100% for sure? Somehow I have a hunch Apple is just going to pay the licensing fee.... it would be far cheaper and wiser in that regard.

Rev.

**capslock118** · 09-05-2012, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by mzanette

I don't understand the Apple bashing. After having used both iPhone and Android, I can see why the non-technical person might go for Apple. The average person only cares about some web surfing, text messaging, emails and pictures. All of those are easy enough to do with iPhone and it's difficult to get "lost" in the interface. The more technically inclined people who love to customize and don't want to be boxed in with apple's limitations might like android better. That's fine. I don't think the average iPhone user will care if their processor or ram specs aren't as good as the latest android phone.

I agree.

I'm a technical person; I am a programmer and database administrator. I like my android phone because I get to tinker with it....

however, i love my apple products because they all just work together.

I may spend hours tinkering on my android phone, but that's beside the point. When it comes down to it, I want a phone/smart device that does exactly what I expect it to do.

to name a few:
i expect my devices to stream wirelessly audio/video to my HTPC without hassle, I expect my music and photos to be available at my finger tips, and I expect easy communication between all of my devices to make that happen.

Yes, android can do all of those things - but when you have a mix of products, it doesn't work too well. Not only do I need to have google music constantly keep tabs on my itunes music collection, but trying to sync my photos with all of my devices and then ultimately have them show up in my photo editing software is a nightmare. Yes, there is dropbox, and I use it. But photostream dumps iphone photos directly into aperture for me; there is nothing that I have to worry about with it.

Same with air stream, it works with my raspberry pi and my nexus 7 and my phone, but I have to do a lot of work to make that happen. It's OK because I like tinkering, but saying "you can download x app and do xyz things to make something happen" is not a solution; integration is.

Long and short of my little write up here, my point is that I want to spend time working on projects that can further improve my life, not trying to play catchup and managing something that should "just work"

**jrsharp70** · 09-05-2012, 08:34 PM

arguing over who makes the best phone is like arguing over who has the least number of important things to do with their time.

**jneusch** · 09-05-2012, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by capslock118

I agree.

I'm a technical person; I am a programmer and database administrator. I like my android phone because I get to tinker with it....

however, i love my apple products because they all just work together.

I may spend hours tinkering on my android phone, but that's beside the point. When it comes down to it, I want a phone/smart device that does exactly what I expect it to do.

to name a few:
i expect my devices to stream wirelessly audio/video to my HTPC without hassle, I expect my music and photos to be available at my finger tips, and I expect easy communication between all of my devices to make that happen.

Yes, android can do all of those things - but when you have a mix of products, it doesn't work too well. Not only do I need to have google music constantly keep tabs on my itunes music collection, but trying to sync my photos with all of my devices and then ultimately have them show up in my photo editing software is a nightmare. Yes, there is dropbox, and I use it. But photostream dumps iphone photos directly into aperture for me; there is nothing that I have to worry about with it.

Same with air stream, it works with my raspberry pi and my nexus 7 and my phone, but I have to do a lot of work to make that happen. It's OK because I like tinkering, but saying "you can download x app and do xyz things to make something happen" is not a solution; integration is.

Long and short of my little write up here, my point is that I want to spend time working on projects that can further improve my life, not trying to play catchup and managing something that should "just work"

And that is why the iPhone and the whole Apple ecosystem are so popular. The non-technical person can do what THEY want to do without going through a ton of steps. As much as I enjoy my GS3, I miss my iPhone for the simplicity of being able to stream music to my indoor and outdoor stereos with 2 clicks. So now I just grab my iPad and do it!

**Rev2010** · 09-05-2012, 09:08 PM

Oh man, all this "just works" Apple nonsense makes my head hurt. How about how I could never get my iPhone 3G to connect to my Ubuntu Linux machine? Well not until I already moved to another phone and a later update to Linux finally got it working. Call it a Linux issue but it wasn't, because the older iphone could connect as well as older ipods, but apple made a change that stopped it from working. So what would the apple solution have been at the time?.... Use a Mac! Even S3 owners are constantly posting about how their S3 isn't recognized when connected to their mac. What about all the ipod users I supported at my last firm asking why they can't copy the music on their ipods over to their work pc?

Sorry, I ain't buying the "just works" bs. I support the iphone and ipad in my current law firm and trust me... It does NOT always "just work".

Rev.

**jcp007** · 09-05-2012, 09:13 PM

The irony would be if Samsung or Google files a lawsuit against Apple assuming LTE patents are infringed upon. Then the Note 2 is released and the new IPhone has to compete with both the S III and the Note 2.

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Ry · 09-05-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rev2010

Oh man, all this "just works" Apple nonsense makes my head hurt. How about how I could never get my iPhone 3G to connect to my Ubuntu Linux machine? Well not until I already moved to another phone and a later update to Linux finally got it working. Call it a Linux issue but it wasn't, because the older iphone could connect as well as older ipods, but apple made a change that stopped it from working. So what would the apple solution have been at the time?.... Use a Mac! Even S3 owners are constantly posting about how their S3 isn't recognized when connected to their mac. What about all the ipod users I supported at my last firm asking why they can't copy the music on their ipods over to their work pc?

Sorry, I ain't buying the "just works" bs. I support the iphone and ipad in my current law firm and trust me... It does NOT always "just work".

Rev.

You could have just used Windows.

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**Rev2010** · 09-05-2012, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ry

You could have just used Windows.

Even still, without using iTunes, which I would never use, how much can you do? About the only thing the iphone can do without iTunes is transfer the Dcim folder :-/ Lame.

Rev.

**JHBThree** · 09-05-2012, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Rev2010

Even still, without using iTunes, which I would never use, how much can you do? About the only thing the iphone can do without iTunes is transfer the Dcim folder :-/ Lame.

Rev.

...so?

That proves the point others have made in this thread. The iPhone clearly didn't work for you since it required iTunes. That's fine. Its not a defect, or somehow makes the iPhone inferior. Its a condition of using it, which is why it didn't work for you.

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**JHBThree** · 09-05-2012, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rev2010

Oh man, all this "just works" Apple nonsense makes my head hurt. How about how I could never get my iPhone 3G to connect to my Ubuntu Linux machine? Well not until I already moved to another phone and a later update to Linux finally got it working. Call it a Linux issue but it wasn't, because the older iphone could connect as well as older ipods, but apple made a change that stopped it from working. So what would the apple solution have been at the time?.... Use a Mac! Even S3 owners are constantly posting about how their S3 isn't recognized when connected to their mac. What about all the ipod users I supported at my last firm asking why they can't copy the music on their ipods over to their work pc?

Sorry, I ain't buying the "just works" bs. I support the iphone and ipad in my current law firm and trust me... It does NOT always "just work".

Rev.

It does 'just work' when you're using a mainstream OS that is supported.

Also, the issue with the S3 has nothing to do with apple and everything to do with the tool Google built for newer android phones being janky and broken.

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Ry · 09-05-2012, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rev2010

Even still, without using iTunes, which I would never use, how much can you do? About the only thing the iphone can do without iTunes is transfer the Dcim folder :-/ Lame.

Rev.

Pre-iOS4, iTunes on a desktop was pretty much a requirement for using iOS devices. And Apple made that totally clear. Not sure why anyone would expect full functionality while not using the tools Apple requires.

It just works.

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**Rev2010** · 09-06-2012, 12:21 AM

Holy Christ, I mention one anecdote about linux and you guys try to run with that as the entire problem experience I mentioned. As I said, I support the iphone and the ipad IN WINDOWS at my law firm and there are many issues with it not always "just working". We've also had plenty issues with people's Mac's but I don't support that, my boss does.

Rev.

**WEIRDIODE** · 09-06-2012, 03:34 AM

i'll just wait and see

**njcoutinho** · 09-06-2012, 08:40 AM

Another lawsuit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

. I don't see the need to laugh about it but i guess we can finally say Game On !!! the S3 versus the iPhone 5

**armeddroid** · 09-06-2012, 09:00 AM

I am not Anti Apple. Their products is what fuels the competition but I do hate Apple's ethics and their immoral approach to competitors.
They knowingly abused the patent system and claimed they invented so much which is far from the truth. Like many, they made money off of other geniuses.
I am interested what the iphone 5 brings so that way we can see Android refine what Apple lacks.

**GrooveRite** · 09-06-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by armeddroid

I am interested what the iphone 5 brings so that way we can see Android refine what Apple lacks.

I think its the other way around now but the Elitists will think otherwise.

**armeddroid** · 09-06-2012, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by GrooveRite

I think its the other way around now but the Elitists will think otherwise.

I agree to that.
Lately, it has been Apple catching up.
Mostly why i want to see what Apple comes up with.
We shall see in a few days.

**Predator04** · 09-06-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by jneusch

Personally I am looking forward to hearing about the new iPhone and how the real specs compare to the leaks. I love my GS3, but I also love Apple products. I am certain that I will be placing a pre-order of an iPhone 5 for my wife, who is drooling at the prospect of a new iPhone. I however, will be sticking with my GS3. I have grown to really enjoy the flexibility and customization Android has to offer. I also like the really BIG screen.

I have tons of respect for what Apple has accomplished over the years. Love 'em or hate 'em, without Apple you probably wouldn't be using anything close to the GS3 today. Apple set the standard and they continue to raise the bar. YES, iOS is stale and closed, but a lot of people like it that way.

. . . and it's not ignorant people who choose Apple products. Remember, it's a choice. I know a lot of very intelligent iPhone users who simply choose the iPhone because it is what they like and what works best for them. Personally, I love choice!!!

But if you look into it. Most of what apple is today has already been done before apple. Apple just copied every eleses ideas and put it into one. You would be surprised to see the things that you might think apple invented that they had nothing to do with

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**534n** · 09-06-2012, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Predator04

But if you look into it. Most of what apple is today has already been done before apple. Apple just copied every eleses ideas and put it into one. You would be surprised to see the things that you might think apple invented that they had nothing to do with

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I have been trying to tell people this, but some of them are way too apple hardcore to believe it. They insist that it was indeed apple.

**gabead** · 09-06-2012, 11:00 AM

I already have the Iphone 5. It has a bigger high definition screen, faster than the previous models, and all the bells and whistles you want. I its called the Ipad 3 so I will just keep my Samsung Galaxy S3 as the phone. :-P

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**ba4g** · 09-06-2012, 01:35 PM

I think if they are going only 4" screen and same boxy design they are missing an opportunity to further define the segment. I think HTC and Samsung have done that rather well as of late. My old TBolt blows away the Iphone S4 in most categories.

That said, I'm likely getting one. Work stuck us with ipads and I rather like all my stuff to "play nice" together. I'm not super geek, so sue me.

**The Hustleman** · 09-06-2012, 02:08 PM

Why bash so hard?

Anyone that knows tech as well as the majority of people on here already know Apple will never make a phone as good as a high end android.

They don't make BAD phones, just not any advanced phones

you mean to tell me you can put a man on the moon but no one can make a smartphone battery that lasts a whole day? jeez!

**JHBThree** · 09-06-2012, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by ba4g

I think if they are going only 4" screen and same boxy design they are missing an opportunity to further define the segment. I think HTC and Samsung have done that rather well as of late. My old TBolt blows away the Iphone S4 in most categories.

That said, I'm likely getting one. Work stuck us with ipads and I rather like all my stuff to "play nice" together. I'm not super geek, so sue me.

You think your bolt blows away the 4s in most categories?

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