Samsung confirms plans to sue Apple over LTE in the iPhone 5

**f1nzup** · 09-20-2012, 01:50 PM

I know this has been a hot topic and many did not think they would actually sue, but it looks like they may be doing just that.

**xlDeMoNiClx** · 09-20-2012, 01:51 PM

Watch Apple win somehow anyway. They'll probably claim that they planned to have LTE in their phones before the S3 came out or some bull like that.

**markespo55** · 09-20-2012, 02:19 PM

Well they aren't just talking about the s3. Samsung has had lte as long as a year now. Also the Iphone 5 processor is made by Samsung so they can hold that against them as well.

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**funkylogik** · 09-20-2012, 03:34 PM

id always thought it would be Moto/Google who would fight iphone over the ip5

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**sfrrr** · 09-20-2012, 03:37 PM

AND I heard that Samsung didn't make the processor in the iPhone5.

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**cdmjlt369** · 09-20-2012, 03:42 PM

Just curious, I'm no tech genius so go easy. I thought LTE was a service provided so there isn't grounds for a suit in the case of LTE. Or is it a viable suit because LTE is hardware specific?

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**funkylogik** · 09-20-2012, 03:47 PM

i actualy thought apple had made (or designed?) its own cpu which included LTE..?

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**funkylogik** · 09-20-2012, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by cdmjlt369

Just curious, I'm no tech genius so go easy. I thought LTE was a service provided so there isn't grounds for a suit in the case of LTE. Or is it a viable suit because LTE is hardware specific?

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depends in what way (chip wise) theyre using to recieve LTE id guess mate

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**NickLippert** · 09-20-2012, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by cdmjlt369

Just curious, I'm no tech genius so go easy. I thought LTE was a service provided so there isn't grounds for a suit in the case of LTE. Or is it a viable suit because LTE is hardware specific?

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Lte is a wireless data technology. So it is sort of in between.

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**pauliphone5** · 09-20-2012, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by cdmjlt369

Just curious, I'm no tech genius so go easy. I thought LTE was a service provided so there isn't grounds for a suit in the case of LTE. Or is it a viable suit because LTE is hardware specific?

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For a phone to have the ability to access and use LTE, it needs the hardware. Samsung seems to think they own that hardward.

Apple must have snuck into the Samsung warehouses and stole the hardware for the iPhone 5.

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**funkylogik** · 09-20-2012, 03:53 PM

howe come the iphone5 cant do voice and LTE at same time?

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**dmmarck** · 09-20-2012, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by funkylogik

howe come the iphone5 cant do voice and LTE at same time?

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Dynamic radio/CDMA technology.

**Rev2010** · 09-20-2012, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by dmmarck

Dynamic radio/CDMA technology.

That's only on CDMA carries though like Verizon right? Simultaneous voice/data should still work on AT&T no? On Verizon no one regardless of device could do simultaneous voice/data.

Rev.

**dmmarck** · 09-20-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rev2010

That's only on CDMA carries though like Verizon right? Simultaneous voice/data should still work on AT&T no? On Verizon no one regardless of device could do simultaneous voice/data.

Rev.

Half correct, half incorrect.

Correct - only for the CDMA carriers--Sprint/Verizon

Incorrect - every Android device on the CDMA carriers that is 4G LTE equipped can do simultaneous CDMA and LTE.

**McPlot** · 09-20-2012, 04:41 PM

I have an S3 and can do data and voice at the same time on a CDMA network over 3g. The iPhone 5 itself is limiting that function, not the cell network. I would bet it has to do with a deal made with AT&T and not some technical reason.

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you.

**dmmarck** · 09-20-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by McPlot

I have an S3 and can do data and voice at the same time on a CDMA network over 3g. The iPhone 5 itself is limiting that function, not the cell network. I would bet it has to do with a deal made with AT&T and not some technical reason.

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you.

I wouldn't go that far; the explanation that I think is accurate is also the simplest--HSPA+ allows simultaneous voice data, CDMA does not--it needs the extra radio.

**funkylogik** · 09-20-2012, 10:23 PM

yup apple had to save battery life and size

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**Madness87** · 09-21-2012, 02:41 AM

Depends on how Apple is utilizing LTE in it's phone... Samsung did not patent LTE, but I do believe they have patents in regards to chipsets and how LTE is integrated etc. Samsung won't win though. Unlike design aesthetics, most judges will be wary of Samsung only trying to stop Apple from LTE use and it may be vindictive.

**byrds8** · 09-21-2012, 05:16 AM

Samsung owns 10% of the LTE patents. At the same time though HTC and Motorola are going after Apple because of LTE. Will be great to see how this plays out.

**xlDeMoNiClx** · 09-21-2012, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Madness87

Depends on how Apple is utilizing LTE in it's phone... Samsung did not patent LTE, but I do believe they have patents in regards to chipsets and how LTE is integrated etc. Samsung won't win though. Unlike design aesthetics, most judges will be wary of Samsung only trying to stop Apple from LTE use and it may be vindictive.

Plus it's Apple, and their downright scumbag marketing tactics (at times) are what helped them win their lawsuit over Samsung and they'll use them now. Plus if the judge is an iSheep he'll see the words "Samsung suing Apple" and will jump to defend them with the full law behind him in an instant and Samsung (whether right or wrong) will lose.

That plus the lawsuit Apple won against Samsung for that weak reason of so-called "patent violations" make me lose a lot of respect for the justice system.

**lbkiml** · 09-21-2012, 11:03 AM

Strangely, I find the Samsung vs. Apple more interesting than Obama vs. Romney.
We'll see how Samsung plays out this one.

**pauliphone5** · 09-21-2012, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by lbkiml

Strangely, I find the Samsung vs. Apple more interesting than Obama vs. Romney.
We'll see how Samsung plays out this one.

Because it is more interesting.

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**the1m.polo** · 09-21-2012, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by PaulDroidR2D2

For a phone to have the ability to access and use LTE, it needs the hardware. Samsung seems to think they own that hardward.

Apple must have snuck into the Samsung warehouses and stole the hardware for the iPhone 5.

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Just like Apple think they own our fingers and prohibit us from sliding it across the screen of a phone (swipe gestures)... It's all stupid but I hope apple gets hit up

From my understanding its a patent on how the LTE radio work in conjunction with the processor... But idk...

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