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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns View Post
    Virus writers targeting phones make sense, they don't do viruses to be helpful.

    Mac users used to think they didn't need AV, they were wrong after it was too late.

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    And I would like to see your research into this subject good sir.

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    Well first I have a fairy avatar and not a male name, common sense dictates I'm not a sir.

    Research on what? Macs needing AV? Big news this last year.

    Read "April" and check out Sophos.



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    I use Avast, security and system installer so even with a full wipe I can still trace my phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns View Post
    Well first I have a fairy avatar and common sense dictates I'm not a sir.

    Research on what? Mac's needing AV? Big news this last year.

    Read "April" and check out Sophos.



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    No android being a big target. The big two were gingermaster and droidkungfu both of which were mostly a problem from alternative markets in china on repackaged apps from sources that were not very reputable.

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    This may help.

    Basically if you are stupid you can get a virus. Again common sense is a massive player in protection. I've been on android since 2.1 and trust me as a specialist in cyber security a lot of this makes me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrm5110 View Post
    No android being a big target. The big two were gingermaster and droidkungfu both of which were mostly a problem from alternative markets in china on repackaged apps from sources that were not very reputable.

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    Yeah again maybe you should research some of the virus writer groups, they go for big news items.

    You don't want AV, don't have it, but stop trying to downplay the issue. Not to mention this bit of very public info about the S3, won't be long for many to take advantage of it. Honestly, following the news informs you a great deal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns View Post
    Yeah again maybe you should research some of the virus writer groups, they go for big news items.

    You don't want AV, don't have it, but stop trying to downplay the issue. Not to mention this but of very public info about the S3, won't be long for many to take advantage of it. Honestly, following the news informs you a great deal.



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    That's an issue with Samsung and again app based attacks. Where did you get the app. How many people have been attacked by this exploit

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrm5110 View Post


    This may help.

    Basically if you are stupid you can get a virus. Again common sense is a massive player in protection. I've been on android since 2.1 and trust me as a specialist in cyber security a lot of this makes me laugh.

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    Of course only stupid people get a virus, even people with AV in their computer can get a virus.

    I find that people that need to try and put others down really don't think that much of themselves.

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    I'm downplaying it because the risk is really negligible do you know how java works its a sandbox anything that happens happens within Javas runtime environment the only time it gets outside of that is if YOU let it. These things have to list the permissions its asking for before you get it from the play store. It has to ask permission before its installed it tells you exactly what it has access to. Its not like windows where you go herp derp double click install and bam dead its a much more detailed process.

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    I'm downplaying it because the risk is really negligible do you know how java works its a sandbox anything that happens happens within Javas runtime environment the only time it gets outside of that is if YOU let it. These things have to list the permissions its asking for before you get it from the play store. It has to ask permission before its installed it tells you exactly what it has access to. Its not like windows where you go herp derp double click install and bam dead its a much more detailed process.

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    Yeah again, experts disagree with you. Why do you care what others do about AV?

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    And yes i know how Java works, learned that in school while getting my degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns View Post
    Yeah again, experts disagree with you. Why do you care what others do about AV?

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    What experts I have yet to see these so called experts.

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    Also how will av work on something with elevated permissions. If the app in question boosts its permissions to root level the av no longer has the ability to help without root itself.

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    As a proof of concept on permissions. I can look at the permissions that any of my apps have and get a description of what is possible with said permissions. Take android tuner in said screenshot this is jus a clip of what I allowed.

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    Yeah again, worry about YOUR device and not ours. Surely you have more important things to do than to be so obsessed with our devices.

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    I was hoping to see if you guys had a logical reason or if it really was tinfoil hats and big brother.

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    Avast...
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    Antivirus software is like homeowners insurance. You hope you don't need it but it is great to have with the prevalence of malware. As smartphones become more like pc and tablets, it will become more common. Hope I never have to do a remote wipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns View Post
    Apps get into the Play Store with bad stuff in it. The tech guy with AT&T told me the other day that most droid phone issues he sees are due to a virus or crap that is attached to some app.
    I always seek out "tech guys" from AT&T when I have a problem with my phone, they are the best informed and most knowledgeable, and always speak the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns View Post
    Yeah again maybe you should research some of the virus writer groups, they go for big news items.

    You don't want AV, don't have it, but stop trying to downplay the issue. Not to mention this bit of very public info about the S3, won't be long for many to take advantage of it. Honestly, following the news informs you a great deal.

    That affects only the International version of the S3 not any of the U.S. phones. Misinformation at it's best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns View Post
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    Incorrect, they are not very prevalent on Android phones..
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    Yeah, again, I trust the people that work on the phones for a living, more.

    BUT, again, the big issue..ain't your phone, why do you care so much? No one is making you guys get AV.

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    If you have to ask the question of whether or not to get anti virus, just install something and be done with it.
    Arguing about it here won't get you anywhere.

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    I build ROMs and have started app development I may not do it for a living but have certainly done my share of work. I don't know what working on phones for a living has to do with anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrm5110 View Post
    I build ROMs and have started app development I may not do it for a living but have certainly done my share of work. I don't know what working on phones for a living has to do with anything.

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    Still? Again, why do you care so much?

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