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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntan View Post
    Because you don't get to choose if that's important to me or any person other than yourself.

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    Looks like you're making that choice for me.
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    Just because a few do own spare batteries, doesn't mean that everyone has to follow the same route and all other non removeable options are bad.
    Agree with you fully. I don't have a spare for my GSIII either. But that's not the same thing that your buddy up above was saying. *You* can think it isn't important to *you.* But you can't tell everybody else it isn't important.

    Finally, I have an older smartphone that is way past its prime as a daily driver. It cost all of $10 to get a new OEM battery and now the kids use it on occasion to play games. I guess I could live with it only running for a half hour on the tired old batt it came with, but for $10 it runs like new.

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    Looks like you're making that choice for me.
    You're not making sense.

    1) You can buy a GSIII and just never take the battery out.

    2) You can buy a HOX.

    How am I taking any choices from you?

    You're the one that said a user replaceable battery shouldn't be important. That people shouldn't care about it. You don't get to make that decision for the rest of us.

    I'll explain it a third time if I really need to, but I hope you've grasped it by the second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntan View Post
    You're not making sense.

    1) You can buy a GSIII and just never take the battery out.

    2) You can buy a HOX.

    How am I taking any choices from you?

    You're the one that said a user replaceable battery shouldn't be important. That people shouldn't care about it. You don't get to make that decision for the rest of us.

    I'll explain it a third time if I really need to, but I hope you've grasped it by the second.

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    By simply saying it's not that important, I'm making the choice for you. Sure. That makes sense.

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    Of course it's better to have the option to replace the battery with no fuss. But it really isn't a big deal when you think of the options available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    It baffles me when people act like a non-removable battery is the end of the world.
    They just probably like the ability to swap on the fly' probably carry one or two extras because of long days, travel or whatever. Good thing android offers plentiful choices. Lucky us ;-)
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    That makes sense.
    Alas, for a third time...

    By your own words, you infer that you are "a person that says a user-replaceable battery shouldn't be a deal breaker"

    Here we go, for the third time... You don't get to decide that for other people.

    If ansextra what's to consider it a dealbreaker, it's his prerogative.

    We don't need to go for a fourth do we?

    This is absurd. Some people appreciate a removable battery and we always get these other people constantly bumping in to stop their feet and say, "But you shouldn't care about that! You should want a phone like the one I bought!" It amazes me how it happens again and again.

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    While its true that I don't carry a spare battery for my GS3 currently.....I like the fact that I can replace the battery when it starts to fade away in the foreseeable future. Batteries usually have lasted roughly over a year for me and I tend to have a phone for 2 years so I favor it being replaceable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntan View Post
    Agree with you fully. I don't have a spare for my GSIII either. But that's not the same thing that your buddy up above was saying. *You* can think it isn't important to *you.* But you can't tell everybody else it isn't important.

    Finally, I have an older smartphone that is way past its prime as a daily driver. It cost all of $10 to get a new OEM battery and now the kids use it on occasion to play games. I guess I could live with it only running for a half hour on the tired old batt it came with, but for $10 it runs like new.

    -Suntan
    I appreciate your comments and agreement, but you're just flipping what we're saying and trying to make your point using what we say. I didn't say it wasn't important to some. I understand that everyone uses their devices differently. But I am just going off of a debate we had in the Razr Maxx forum a few months back where the removeable battery side was acting like it was the biggest travesty on the planet to have non removeable batteries. But ultimately it's an opinion scenario where no one has to be convinced. If you want to remove batteries, there's options. If you want a non-removeable, there's options. Personally, I have a counter point to every argument that is made for the value of removeable batteries. But it is pointless to hash it out because it wont change anyone's mind.

    My request is that you don't just quote us and then use the "I know you are but what am I?" response. You can if you want to, but it kills the fun and entertainment of a healthy debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrooveRite View Post
    While its true that I don't carry a spare battery for my GS3 currently.....I like the fact that I can replace the battery when it starts to fade away in the foreseeable future. Batteries usually have lasted roughly over a year for me and I tend to have a phone for 2 years so I favor it being replaceable.
    For people who keep their devices for two years, this is the BEST argument i've seen on the value of removeable batteries. Personally, I haven't kept a single phone for more than a year to a 18 months so usually I move on to something new right about the time the battery might start to break down. But if I kept my phone for the full two years, I would definitely require a removeable option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntan View Post
    Alas, for a third time...

    By your own words, you infer that you are "a person that says a user-replaceable battery shouldn't be a deal breaker"

    Here we go, for the third time... You don't get to decide that for other people.

    If ansextra what's to consider it a dealbreaker, it's his prerogative.

    We don't need to go for a fourth do we?

    This is absurd. Some people appreciate a removable battery and we always get these other people constantly bumping in to stop their feet and say, "But you shouldn't care about that! You should want a phone like the one I bought!" It amazes me how it happens again and again.

    -Suntan
    Yes. You should all have the phone I have, a DROID Bionic with a user replaceable battery.

    By that token, you shouldn't get to decide that a user-replaceable battery is a positive for me.

    But apparently I'm on the campaign against replaceable batteries.

    My point: unless Google tells anyone who uses Android that they can't release any hardware that has a user-replaceable battery, it doesn't really matter. If you don't like that phone doesn't have a user-replaceable battery, you don't have to buy it. IMO, not having a user-replaceable shouldn't be a con because there are still ways to recharge on the go. If you want to make it personal and infer that I'm explicitly telling ansextra what to do, that's your prerogative. I'm just pointing out options.
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    I used to have an HTC Thunderbolt. Carrying a spare battery or having a charger everywhere you go was a must.
    The S3 battery is OK as is. I don't have a spare for it. (but I do have numerous chargers everywhere because of the T-Bolt)
    If it was non removable, it wouldn't have the connectors and extra protection electronics that are needed in the battery pack, so it would have maybe 10 to 20% more capacity. I would almost prefer that bit more capacity.
    Just don't take away my removable SD card slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalAmerican View Post
    I appreciate your comments and agreement, but you're just flipping what we're saying and trying to make your point using what we say. I didn't say it wasn't important to some. I understand that everyone uses their devices differently. But I am just going off of a debate we had in the Razr Maxx forum a few months back where the removeable battery side was acting like it was the biggest travesty on the planet to have non removeable batteries. But ultimately it's an opinion scenario where no one has to be convinced. If you want to remove batteries, there's options. If you want a non-removeable, there's options. Personally, I have a counter point to every argument that is made for the value of removeable batteries. But it is pointless to hash it out because it wont change anyone's mind.

    My request is that you don't just quote us and then use the "I know you are but what am I?" response. You can if you want to, but it kills the fun and entertainment of a healthy debate.
    I fully understand both sides. I was just stating why I personally favor having a removable battery. It would annoy me to teardown a phone when I could of just had a phone with a removable battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    It baffles me when people act like a non-removable battery is the end of the world.
    I never said it was the end of the world, but it is a negative in my book. I prefer not to have my mobile phone connected to a charger and to just swap out batteries. Hence, I don't buy mobile phones that don't have removable batteries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalAmerican View Post
    I appreciate your comments and agreement, but you're just flipping what we're saying and trying to make your point using what we say. I didn't say it wasn't important to some. I understand that everyone uses their devices differently. But I am just going off of a debate we had in the Razr Maxx forum a few months back where the removeable battery side was acting like it was the biggest travesty on the planet to have non removeable batteries. But ultimately it's an opinion scenario where no one has to be convinced. If you want to remove batteries, there's options. If you want a non-removeable, there's options. Personally, I have a counter point to every argument that is made for the value of removeable batteries. But it is pointless to hash it out because it wont change anyone's mind.

    My request is that you don't just quote us and then use the "I know you are but what am I?" response. You can if you want to, but it kills the fun and entertainment of a healthy debate.
    No offence, because I really do agree with the comments you've made here, but I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to someone else that was making comments that were not the same as you. Further, when I did respond to a comment that you directed at me, I specifically said that I agreed with you fully. Then went on to explain how your comment (which I agreed with) was different than the one I disagreed with.

    So don't insinuate that I'm lumping all the counter-arguments together and saying, "I know you are but what am I?" Because I'm not.

    Further, don't blame me for any past baggage you may have had in some other forum talking about some other phone. I've never made any comments pertaining to the non-removable battery on the Droid Maxx.

    Now since you seem to want to discuss it, let's discuss it. You say you have a counter point to every argument that is made for the value of a removable battery. In so far as it relates to the GSIII and the HOX, what would those counter points be?

    The GSIII has a larger battery, so it isn't like the Droid Maxx where you actually get something out of it.

    The thickness really isn't much different between the GSIII and the HOX. Maybe the HOX is a little thinner (I really don't know) but personally, I wouldn't say thickness makes a difference between the two.

    People claim they like the "solid" feel of the HOX and claim the GSIII feels cheap with its plastic back. I'll give you that argument if it is important to you. I've never played with a real HOX so I can't compare myself, but I don't think the removable battery would make a difference. Even if the GSIII didn't have a removable battery, Samsung has shown that they have an affection for cheap plastic backs. I don't think anything would be different if they just glued the plastic back on.

    Anyway, I'd be interested to hear any other opinions about why the non-removable battery on the HOX is better than the removable battery on the GSIII. Perhaps there are a few that I just haven't thought of.

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    I never said it was the end of the world, but it is a negative in my book. I prefer not to have my mobile phone connected to a charger and to just swap out batteries. Hence, I don't buy mobile phones that don't have removable batteries.
    And that's exactly what you should do.
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    If you don't like that phone doesn't have a user-replaceable battery, you don't have to buy it.
    Ah, third time's a charm...

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    I-sheep and Sammy-sheep are one in the same! Both are similarly obnoxious! I would also bet most are socialist democrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattails_r_Edible View Post
    I-sheep and Sammy-sheep are one in the same! Both are similarly obnoxious! I would also bet most are socialist democrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ansextra View Post
    Now HOW did you make the leap from a phone discussion to politics?
    Exactly lol. But I think Samsung is trying to make their phones too much like the I phone. Expecially the note 2, it has options found in the I phone such as the flash going of when you get an alert. Doesn't bug me, just think Sammy can make a better phone without the use of I phone things. I love my note tho.

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    Exactly lol. But I think Samsung is trying to make their phones too much like the I phone. Expecially the note 2, it has options found in the I phone such as the flash going of when you get an alert. Doesn't bug me, just think Sams to Good for the I phone style.

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    How is that flash alert feature listed? Is in the Accessibility options?
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    How is that flash alert feature listed? Is in the Accessibility options?
    Yes, under hearing. Why did this device get so popular?-uploadfromtaptalk1357158059333.jpg

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    A rechargeable battery pack isn't nearly as convenient. I have my extra battery at home. If I'm going out at night I just pop in the new battery and bam 100% charge. A battery pack has to be tethered to your phone for some time. A battery pack won't get you from 0% to 100% in 7 seconds like a removable battery can.

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    A rechargeable battery pack isn't nearly as convenient. I have my extra battery at home. If I'm going out at night I just pop in the new battery and bam 100% charge. A battery pack has to be tethered to your phone for some time. A battery pack won't get you from 0% to 100% in 7 seconds like a removable battery can.

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    Of course.

    But it's still an option.

    And you won't be stuck with a dead phone until you can put it on a wall or car charger.
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    Of course.

    But it's still an option.

    And you won't be stuck with a dead phone until you can put it on a wall or car charger.
    A very crappy option at best Ry....admit it!...lol!
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    A very crappy option at best Ry....admit it!...lol!
    A pro would be the ability to charge more than just your own device, helping out friends or strangers that are in need of a boost.
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