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  1. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    "There is nothing wrong with Android as a product except that it does not do much. It is the equivalent of having a motor scooter at the Indianapolis 500." How can someone so successful in the tech investing arena make such a statement? Apparently this guy thinks Android is in danger of being swallowed up by Samsung. Also, "Android right now is consolidated, it is Samsung and the 78 dwarfs". If you read this article or view the video, there are some other notable quotes.Thoughts?

    Roger McNamee Interview
    or
    McNamee: Big Tech Isn't Trying to Innovate: Video - Bloomberg
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    01-17-2013 03:14 AM
  2. worwig's Avatar
    The video was funny. Especially the part where he states "I'm no Apple fanboy...."
    Sorry, but he is.
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    01-17-2013 09:47 AM
  3. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    Samsung is no doubt the top dog in a world's where they only have to compete with companies like lg and HTC as the other competitors

    But as far as taking over android? We will see, they probably have the largest market share out of all the android making brands



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    01-17-2013 10:01 AM
  4. Suntan's Avatar
    That guy was actually on Charlie Rose last night.

    It's sad that the "visionaries" have such a myopic view on tech trends. The guy clearly has the opinion that android is no good because it doesn't work exactly like apple.

    Personally, I think any company can become "the next Samsung." All they have to do is string 7 or 8 consecutive quarters with good product releases, maintain good production quality and quantity, then support the two or three product cycles with good updates.

    -Suntan
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    01-17-2013 10:16 AM
  5. NoYankees44's Avatar
    Just reading the quotes:

    He had some biased but valid points up until I lost all respect for him with this:

    Five years ago, we were all worried about patent trollsFive years later, who are they? Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, maybe even Apple.

    from my ADR6425LVW
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    01-17-2013 10:38 AM
  6. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    That guy was actually on Charlie Rose last night.

    It's sad that the "visionaries" have such a myopic view on tech trends. The guy clearly has the opinion that android is no good because it doesn't work exactly like apple.

    Personally, I think any company can become "the next Samsung." All they have to do is string 7 or 8 consecutive quarters with good product releases, maintain good production quality and quantity, then support the two or three product cycles with good updates.

    -Suntan
    Looks like we watched the same show. I then googled him, to learn a little bit more.
    01-17-2013 10:39 AM
  7. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    Just reading the quotes:

    He had some biased but valid points up until I lost all respect for him with this:

    Five years ago, we were all worried about patent trollsFive years later, who are they? Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, maybe even Apple.

    from my ADR6425LVW
    Yeah, I forgot to mention that one. I was rolling on the ground laughing at that statement. What a nut!
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    01-17-2013 10:41 AM
  8. GrooveRite's Avatar
    Guy was literally touting and lauding the control Apple has/should have in the industry! Thats EXACTLY what I am against!!
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    01-17-2013 01:11 PM
  9. crester's Avatar
    I doubt Samsung is going to take over Android because they are making their own operating system... Tizen.

    I think the question to ask is... is Samsung going to continue to make Android phones in the future? Or will they eventually switch completely to Tizen when it's ready and stable?
    01-17-2013 02:16 PM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    He lost me when goes "I'm not an Apple fanboy" when... That's the only thing he praises. The rest he might say oh they doing good.. But apple he lights up and is like this ecosystem is so fantastic and they have superior products..

    Yeah... He's not a fanboy.

    Sent from my Sprint S3 using AC forums
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    01-17-2013 02:29 PM
  11. mazzmoney95's Avatar
    I think the day will come when galaxy and android are synonymous. Like how it was with the moto droid. That day is fast approaching. Once samsung gets their galaxy brand to lower end devices that day will come (and that's happening with the galaxy mini). Google's last push will be the nexus devices. They seem to be gaining a part of the market samsung can't get at.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    01-17-2013 02:36 PM
  12. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Samsung has already confirmed they will be using Tizen and developing that. Sources say they will be releasing a Tizen phone in 2014.

    http://m.cnet.com/news/samsung-to-se...-says/57561316

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
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    01-17-2013 05:03 PM
  13. Ry's Avatar
    I think the day will come when galaxy and android are synonymous. Like how it was with the moto droid. That day is fast approaching. Once samsung gets their galaxy brand to lower end devices that day will come (and that's happening with the galaxy mini). Google's last push will be the nexus devices. They seem to be gaining a part of the market samsung can't get at.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    lol. Have you seen most of Samsung "lower-end" products? The Galaxy name has already been there.
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    01-17-2013 05:41 PM
  14. Targon's Avatar
    Samsung is a company that understands that diversity in product lines means that if there is a problem in any one area, it won't sink the company. So, Samsung is keeping the door open for just about any OS so that if there IS a change in trends, it is ready. Right now, iOS and Android are the top operating systems, but since Apple won't let any other company make iOS based devices, Android was the only viable alternative. Windows Phone...will it do well or die? Samsung keeps that door open, but wouldn't switch to it entirely. Tizen may or may not do well, so Samsung wouldn't drop Android for it, unless some lawsuit shuts down Android...and that is why Samsung is going to support it.

    Have you noticed that RIM has had problems because it is a one OS company for phones, so if that one platform falls out of favor, it runs into trouble. HTC, Nokia, and others...diversity is the way to make sure you don't die if there is a problem.
    01-17-2013 05:42 PM
  15. Ry's Avatar
    "There is nothing wrong with Android as a product except that it does not do much. It is the equivalent of having a motor scooter at the Indianapolis 500." How can someone so successful in the tech investing arena make such a statement? Apparently this guy thinks Android is in danger of being swallowed up by Samsung. Also, "Android right now is consolidated, it is Samsung and the 78 dwarfs". If you read this article or view the video, there are some other notable quotes.Thoughts?

    Roger McNamee Interview
    or
    McNamee: Big Tech Isn't Trying to Innovate: Video - Bloomberg
    Samsung is sort of at a crossroads.

    One the one hand, they're the king of Android right now. They own the Android marketshare. On the other hand, besides making gobs of money on the hardware sales, Samsung success is bringing more eyes to Google's services. Samsung has a few paths it could take.

    They could stay the course - continue to develop Android-based TouchWiz devices, while investing a bit in Windows Phone (ATIV) and now their in-house Tizen software.

    They could fork Android and create their own software ecosystem (similar to Amazon). Samsung would then own their customers, instead of sharing them with Google.

    They could take the pedal off of Android and increase their investments Tizen. Again here, Samsung would then own their customers, instead of sharing them with Google.
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    01-17-2013 05:46 PM
  16. mazzmoney95's Avatar
    lol. Have you seen most of Samsung "lower-end" products? The Galaxy name has already been there.
    I was talking more about name and design. They finally got a design out there that people recognize. But their lower end galaxy phones are totally different. I think it's safe to say the galaxy mini might be a different breed of mid their phones for Samsung, possibly adding it into their real galaxy line (with the note, the s#, and the tab in a way)

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
    01-17-2013 05:46 PM
  17. Ry's Avatar
    I was talking more about name and design. They finally got a design out there that people recognize. But their lower end galaxy phones are totally different. I think it's safe to say the galaxy mini might be a different breed of mid their phones for Samsung, possibly adding it into their real galaxy line (with the note, the s#, and the tab in a way)

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
    I see more people asking about "S3" or "Note" vs. Galaxy. I don't think Galaxy will ever become synonymous with Android the way DROID just because of how Samsung markets their products.
    01-17-2013 05:48 PM
  18. Ry's Avatar
    Samsung is a company that understands that diversity in product lines means that if there is a problem in any one area, it won't sink the company. So, Samsung is keeping the door open for just about any OS so that if there IS a change in trends, it is ready. Right now, iOS and Android are the top operating systems, but since Apple won't let any other company make iOS based devices, Android was the only viable alternative. Windows Phone...will it do well or die? Samsung keeps that door open, but wouldn't switch to it entirely. Tizen may or may not do well, so Samsung wouldn't drop Android for it, unless some lawsuit shuts down Android...and that is why Samsung is going to support it.

    Have you noticed that RIM has had problems because it is a one OS company for phones, so if that one platform falls out of favor, it runs into trouble. HTC, Nokia, and others...diversity is the way to make sure you don't die if there is a problem.
    Because HTC and Nokia are glowing examples of success relative to the competition. Yeah.

    Nokia is pretty much all in on Windows Phone right now. So much for diversity.

    HTC is struggling with Android and is trying out Windows Phone 8 now.

    RIM's problems went beyond only supporting their OS. The market change from business to consumer oriented and RIM couldn't change fast enough (or stubbornly refused to change before it was too late).
    01-17-2013 05:54 PM
  19. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    Samsung is sort of at a crossroads.

    One the one hand, they're the king of Android right now. They own the Android marketshare. On the other hand, besides making gobs of money on the hardware sales, Samsung success is bringing more eyes to Google's services. Samsung has a few paths it could take.

    They could stay the course - continue to develop Android-based TouchWiz devices, while investing a bit in Windows Phone (ATIV) and now their in-house Tizen software.

    They could fork Android and create their own software ecosystem (similar to Amazon). Samsung would then own their customers, instead of sharing them with Google.

    They could take the pedal off of Android and increase their investments Tizen. Again here, Samsung would then own their customers, instead of sharing them with Google.
    This is exactly what I think will happen.
    01-17-2013 07:25 PM
  20. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    Just reading the quotes:

    He had some biased but valid points up until I lost all respect for him with this:

    Five years ago, we were all worried about patent trollsFive years later, who are they? Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, maybe even Apple.

    from my ADR6425LVW
    Actually, that's about the only thing he got right. Those companies are all spending as much money on patents, and patent lawsuits, as they are on product development.
    01-17-2013 09:08 PM
  21. NoYankees44's Avatar
    Actually, that's about the only thing he got right. Those companies are all spending as much money on patents, and patent lawsuits, as they are on product development.
    But "maybe apple"? I mean really? The one who most recently has taken full advantage of the broken patent system and cause god only knows how much innovation dollars to be instead spent on defense in court?

    I am not saying the other companies are innocent, but to say maybe apple is like saying the Nazis might have had something to do with ww2 at this point.

    Sent from my ADR6425LVW
    01-17-2013 09:29 PM
  22. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    Ah, now I see what you meant. Yes, I agree completely.
    01-18-2013 09:40 AM
  23. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    This is the same guy that predicted and invested big time on Palm Pre. He obviously is a big time proponent of, and investor in Apple. While he has done well for himself, and hit a few "Out of the Park", I do not think Android is going anywhere anytime soon (only time will tell).
    01-18-2013 11:53 AM
  24. Suntan's Avatar
    Just to give another reference point, the guy claimed on Charlie Rose that the shortest increment of time in the universe is the amount of time between when the AppleTV is announced and when he pre-orders it.

    Not an Apple Fanboy? I disagree.

    -Suntan
    01-18-2013 01:10 PM
  25. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Actually, that's about the only thing he got right. Those companies are all spending as much money on patents, and patent lawsuits, as they are on product development.
    Well to be fair, Apple is spending money on patent lawsuits and other companies are spending money to defend themselves in court.
    01-18-2013 07:23 PM
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