1. Bitter13's Avatar
    Title says it all. I sent in my S3 that I bought from Verizon (admittedly I bought a refurb off the site for $400 no contract) to repair the cracked glass. Screen was fine.

    Well I guess Samsung won't just replace the glass and they charge me $135(+/-) to replace the whole screen. I send them the phone and they send me an email that it's gonna take a little while because they are missing a part (the screen I guess?)

    I get the phone back a little over a week later and I can see right away that it's not the phone I sent them. I had one little dimple on the frame on the top from dropping it. That dent is gone and this phone is banged up around the corners. Also, the sticker under the battery (with the serial number) has obviously been replaced, the corner of it was peeled and it is dog-eared.

    Does this sound sketchy to anyone else?
    02-18-2013 11:59 AM
  2. geekymcfly's Avatar
    It sounds sketchy to me but I wouldn't know how samsung operates. I would be passed if I received a refurb

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    02-18-2013 02:22 PM
  3. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    It's how almost all companies operate. If the device can't be easily repaired, it's replaced with a refurb. You sent them a broken used phone. You got back a working used phone. Do you really think they owe you a new one?
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    02-18-2013 02:29 PM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    I wouldn't if the glass was cracked. If my screen was messed up due to like manufacturing issues (dead pixels, messed up colors, etc.) then I'd expect a new phone.. Since that's their mess up..

    But a cracked screen due to a drop or whatever? No. I wouldn't expect a new phone because that was caused by human handling.. Not a manufacturer defect.

    Sent from my Sprint S3 using AC forums.
    02-18-2013 02:32 PM
  5. Bitter13's Avatar
    It's how almost all companies operate. If the device can't be easily repaired, it's replaced with a refurb. You sent them a broken used phone. You got back a working used phone. Do you really think they owe you a new one?

    No, I absolutely don't expect a new one. I expect to get back the phone that I sent them, as they represent their service center to "repair" my phone, not replace my phone.

    Please keep in mind that my perspective is that of a Fascinate owner that had to replace my phone on warranty no less than 5 times. When buying a discounted refurb phone, there is some trepidation that you are buying buggy hardware that was already returned by a dis-satisfied customer. I was happy to discover that the phone I bought was snappy and bug free. i don't want to have to roll the dice any more than I have to.
    02-18-2013 09:37 PM
  6. jhaire08's Avatar
    It's probably just easier and more cost effective for them if they just send you a whole new phone. They actually aren't able to replace just the glass because the glass and display are one entire assembly piece.

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    02-18-2013 09:53 PM
  7. sledge007's Avatar
    I just had my phone replaced, it's a refurb and I couldn't tell the difference either stock or rooted. So to answer your question, no....you shouldn't be angry.....


    You said you bought a refurb in the first place, and they're sending you a "new" refurb.....did I read that correctly? Yes....definitely....you shouldn't be angry.
    02-18-2013 10:03 PM
  8. crester's Avatar
    To the original poster... it's pretty standard for companies in general to send refurbished units to customers. It saves time in the whole process. You send them a broken phone that's a refurb... they pick a phone that has been refurbished to proper condition and send it back to you. That way you don't need to wait for them to actually repair the phone.

    So don't get your panties in a knot!
    02-19-2013 12:13 AM
  9. 8100User's Avatar
    To the original poster....

    So don't get your panties in a knot!
    In the OP's defense, if you're told that the broken screen on your phone will be "repaired", I think Samsung should either have repaired it, or asked him if he's alright with them simply sending him a refurbished phone. If he wasn't alright with it, Samsung should have sent the phone back to him, unrepairable.
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    02-19-2013 05:25 AM
  10. Bitter13's Avatar
    In the OP's defense, if you're told that the broken screen on your phone will be "repaired", I think Samsung should either have repaired it, or asked him if he's alright with them simply sending him a refurbished phone. If he wasn't alright with it, Samsung should have sent the phone back to him, unrepairable.
    This. And I most likely say to them "That's fine, just send me another phone" every time.

    But:
    1) If that's the policy, just say it up front and dont try and sneak it past me.
    2) Many (if not most) swaps like that work the other way around: they ship you a replacement phone first then you send yours back so you aren't without a phone choir a week.

    And lastly, while I found this policy to be dishonest and inconvenient at worst, extrapolate this policy to other facets of life and it shines a light on the problem: How would you feel if this happened when you sent your car in for a new transmission, or wanted to get a new roof on your house, or took your kid in to have their tonsils I out? :-)
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    02-19-2013 06:34 AM
  11. crester's Avatar
    There's nothing being "snuck past you"... as I said... this is just they way modern electronics companies operate.

    I don't even understand the problem here. You send in a broken phone... and got back the same model phone in working condition. Do you miss the dents and scratches you had on your old phone or something???
    02-19-2013 08:35 AM
  12. Bitter13's Avatar
    There's nothing being "snuck past you"... as I said... this is just they way modern electronics companies operate.

    I don't even understand the problem here. You send in a broken phone... and got back the same model phone in working condition. Do you miss the dents and scratches you had on your old phone or something???

    Thanks for the education on modern companies. I know how they work.
    For instance, you call Verizon with a warranty issue. They say, "No problem, we will send you a different phone and you send this one back to us. We'll fix it then give it to someone else down the road"
    Yes, that is how most companies usually work.


    Samsung, on the other hand, said they would fix MY phone.
    They took my phone and peeled off the serial number sticker and put it on the back of a different phone, one that had more dents than my old one (so YES, I miss the dent on my old phone)
    They sent it back and said "Here's YOUR phone back. We fixed it for you!"
    That is how "trying to sneak something past you" works.
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    02-19-2013 08:44 AM
  13. crester's Avatar
    Well if your "new" phone has more dents than your old phone send it back!
    02-19-2013 08:58 AM
  14. gnr_2's Avatar
    And lastly, while I found this policy to be dishonest and inconvenient at worst, extrapolate this policy to other facets of life and it shines a light on the problem: How would you feel if this happened when you sent your car in for a new transmission, or wanted to get a new roof on your house, or took your kid in to have their tonsils I out? :-)
    Apple does this. Since absolutely everything has to be given to them to be fixed. But just because I give them a used iPod doesn't mean I'm okay with getting back some other random used iPod. I want my iPod back with a new battery in it. We just took our 1998 Rav4 into Toyota for a new battery and alternator. I expect my Forest Green Rav4 when I pick it up, not some other 1998 Rav4 with a new battery and alternator.

    Sent from my totally awesome Sprint Galaxy Nexus, even if I don't know all its secrets yet.
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    02-19-2013 09:03 AM
  15. crester's Avatar
    There's a BIG difference between getting a different iPod of the same type when yours is broken... and getting a new car when you take it in for an oil change.
    02-19-2013 09:07 AM
  16. gnr_2's Avatar
    There's a BIG difference between getting a different iPod of the same type when yours is broken... and getting a new car when you take it in for an oil change.
    You say that now. Let's see how this plays out in 15 years when it becomes the norm. Slippery slope.

    Sent from my totally awesome Sprint Galaxy Nexus, even if I don't know all its secrets yet.
    02-19-2013 09:17 AM
  17. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    In the OP's defense, if you're told that the broken screen on your phone will be "repaired", I think Samsung should either have repaired it, or asked him if he's alright with them simply sending him a refurbished phone. If he wasn't alright with it, Samsung should have sent the phone back to him, unrepairable.
    I suspect if one were to actually read the terms of the repair agreement, it says "repair or replace at Samsung's option." That is pretty standard across all consumer goods industries. Few people actually bother to read what they agree to, but that's hardly Samsung's fault.


    But:
    1) If that's the policy, just say it up front and dont try and sneak it past me.
    2) Many (if not most) swaps like that work the other way around: they ship you a replacement phone first then you send yours back so you aren't without a phone choir a week.
    As I said above, I doubt they "snuck" anything past anyone.

    And lastly, while I found this policy to be dishonest and inconvenient at worst, extrapolate this policy to other facets of life and it shines a light on the problem: How would you feel if this happened when you sent your car in for a new transmission, or wanted to get a new roof on your house, or took your kid in to have their tonsils I out? :-)
    Sorry, but these analogies are just silly. A car is both more expensive, and designed for the relatively easy replacement of parts. Phones aren't. (In reality, though, if you take your car in for a warranty replacement of the transmission, there's a pretty good chance you're going to get a rebuilt one.)

    You say that now. Let's see how this plays out in 15 years when it becomes the norm. Slippery slope.
    And that one's beyond silly.


    There's a video on this site (search for it) of what's involved in replacing a screen. Watch that, and you'll understand why Samsung doesn't actually do that repair. The labor cost would probably be far more than most people would be willing to pay.
    02-19-2013 09:31 AM
  18. Sincs's Avatar
    or took your kid in to have their tonsils I out? :-)
    Hahahaha, give this man a round of applause.
    02-19-2013 04:55 PM
  19. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Every company will just send a refurb, it's easier and it means you don't have to wait as long to get a working phone back.
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    02-19-2013 05:01 PM
  20. xKrNMBoYx's Avatar
    Did you buy it unlocked or through a carrier. I bought mine through a carrier, and every phone I buy through a carrier they always state that if a phone breaks, you always have a chance of receiving a refurbished product. Minus the data you had on the phone, all refurbished phones should be the same as they are all fixed to good condition (should be new to the eye.) I would not be mad because I already know this. In your case it's reasonable that you are mad, but Samsung did not do anything wrong in sending you a refurbished device.
    02-19-2013 10:48 PM
  21. iaminflames's Avatar
    Yea I'd probably be pissed too. They could've at least sent a refurbed that wasn't all dented and scratched up. I would call and to them.

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    02-19-2013 10:57 PM
  22. gnr_2's Avatar
    And that one's beyond silly.
    And I bet you would have said that 15 years ago if someone told you airlines would charge you to take a suitcase on a trip.

    Sent from my totally awesome Sprint Galaxy Nexus, even if I don't know all its secrets yet.
    02-20-2013 01:59 AM
  23. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    And I bet you would have said that 15 years ago if someone told you airlines would charge you to take a suitcase on a trip.
    No, it's silly because of the economics involved. Manufacturers give you a refurb cell phone because it's cheaper for them to do it that way. I can't imagine it will ever be cheaper to give you a refurb car than to do an oil change. Or a transmission change.
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    02-20-2013 08:11 AM
  24. WAWood8's Avatar
    To echo what the others have said, I've had cell phones "replaced" several times over the years, and every time, I get back a refurbished phone -- it even says to in the shipping info that comes back with the phone. The warranty terms nearly always include something like "repair or replace ..." So basically, it's their choice and there really is nothing we can do to change that. And yeah, it sucks.
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    02-20-2013 08:42 AM
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