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    Samsung will push Tizen with its $15 billion global marketing budget to achieve its ultimate goal of having its own ecosystem and increasing its margins to Apple-like levels. Unless Samsung moves into software, it inevitably faces falling margins on hardware like every other hardware manufacturer in history, especially in the face of an onslaught of cheap Chinese competitors like Huawei and ZTE whose big-screen Android phones are essentially no different from Samsung's current Android phones spec-wise even down to the particular Android version used. Samsung has already warned its current massive profitability from hardware is a fluke that no one should expect to continue going forward. What's a cheap Korean imitator of Apple to do in the face of even cheaper Chinese competition? Try to move up the value chain! To counter the inevitable margin compression on hardware, Samsung will promote Tizen as "Android Plus" because Tizen can run and co-opt all Android apps and do everything Android does PLUS offer cool, futuristic new HTML5 capabilities that simply blow Android away and that can't be imitated by its Chinese competitors. Look at Samsung Executive VP Choi's Tizen demo video on the Galaxy S2 that I posted on page 3 of this thread. Samsung's a very smart and patient company. It has chosen the Feb. 25-28 Mobile World Congress to introduce Tizen because Tizen is more than ready and there's literally everything to gain and nothing to lose. At the same or lower price point, the Galaxy Tizen S4 runs all Android apps and will do everything any high-end Android phone on the market can do PLUS a whole lot of cool, new stuff. Android may grow even more for a while because of Tizen, but eventually it'll all shift over to native Tizen apps. Samsung will have toppled Google. No wonder Eric Schmidt had to fly over to Korea a few months ago to try to get Samsung to drop Tizen. He even danced Gangnam Style in public and ate kimchi, but Samsung Chairman Lee Kun Hee and mobile chief Shin still said no (just as Schmidt once said no to Steve Jobs who asked him to stop copying iOS in Android). Since that trip, Schmidt's suddenly sold over half of his Google shares with more sales planned. Tizen is coming, yes, Tizen is coming. Google's future is not as secure as everyone assumes. It depends on mobile and Android and Google Now to connect it all and deliver it to the consumer automatically and intelligently in a ubiquitous fashion via Android mobile devices. But who would have guessed that all this time Samsung had an entirely different vision and, in just 10 days, is about to put at least one "high-end" Tizen device on the market that runs all Android apps seamlessly and flawlessly in addition to offering cool, new HTML5 features that blow Android out of the water? In the Google vs. Samsung battle, Samsung wins because of Tizen and its manufacturing and marketing scale. But in the Apple vs. Samsung battle, Samsung loses because, in the end, copycats are copycats and lack creativity and have no clue what an "ecosystem" really is or how to lead one. Thus, Samsung will succumb to the low-cost Chinese competition because its ecosystem will fail and its hardware will all be commoditized. Meanwhile, Google's Android fails without Samsung as its manufacturing champion and because every other Android hardware maker is already a profitless, pathetic Android version of Dell or HP (profitless even despite the fact they get the Android OS for free from Google) or destined to become one in the Android Chinese price war to the bottom. Only Apple with its well-established, higher-margin ecosystem of hardware + software + services will survive for the long term, similar to how IBM secured its long-term viability by focusing on software, services, and integration over hardware alone.
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    Have you even seen Tizen? It is pretty much nothing right now. And also, Tizen doesn't belong to Samsung. It is open source and Samsung has contributed.

    Let's please stop feeding the troll.

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    To see Tizen, view the incredible demo video of Tizen made by Samsung Executive Vice President Jong-deok Choi I posted on Page 3 of this thread. Also, see the video on that page that I posted of Tizen running Android apps. Tizen does everything Android does PLUS a lot of cool, new, amazing stuff Android will never be capable of. Tizen basically steals and co-opts the entire existing Android app ecosystem from underneath Google and then runs away with it.

    Samsung owns and controls Tizen completely. From the recent Feb. 13, 2013, Korea Times article that says Samsung will announce its high-end Tizen phone at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona on Feb. 25-28: "Tizen is an open source, Linux-based OS like Android. Though it is a collaboration between Samsung and American technology giant Intel, the former owns the rights to the software development kit, or tools to work on the OS, the most valuable certificate of ownership."

    Today, it is also reported that Google will open up in time for the holiday season a chain of its own retail stores, very similar to Apple's stores, that will sell all things Google: X-Phones, X-Tablets, Google Glass, Nexus 7 tablets, Google Cars, Google Delivery Mini-Drones, and whatever other exotic game-changing Google hardware products being developed in its labs.

    In other words, Google is hell-bent on "going Apple" like Samsung and selling BOTH hardware and software in order to achieve Apple-like margins for its greedy shareholders. What's most interesting is that Google won't even try to put advertising on Google Glass, which will have margins much higher than the iPhone's. Google sees how Android hardware device sales have let Samsung's stock rise 9-fold in the past 5 years, giving it a market cap almost as big as Google's own, while Google's market cap today is roughly the same as it was 5 years ago. Google is jealous of Samsung's profiting off of Android and deeply desires to start making huge Android hardware profits itself since Android is its own baby.

    Google won't be selling any Samsung Galaxy phones or tablets in its retail stores but only its own Google X-Phones, X-Tablets, Google Glass, etc. Google has seen the light and is moving into hardware and needs stores to show and sell its amazing, cool hardware. Apple's and Samsung's market cap together from selling mobile Internet devices is about $750 billion, or 3 times as big as Google's, whose market cap is 95% derived from advertising only.

    Samsung is not pleased about the X-Phone and Google's new retail stores pushing the X-Phone and Google Glass, so it's putting Tizen on the Galaxy S4. It would be irresponsible for Samsung to do otherwise and pretend that Google is not serious about moving into mobile Internet devices like smartphones, which are Samsung's bread and butter and surged to 75% of its revenues in its latest quarter.

    Samsung already has some stand-alone stores but will also start mimicing Apple and create its own retail stores in America. They already have such stores all over the place in Korea, selling everything from Samsung refrigerators to Galaxy Note 2s, so it won't be too hard for them to do the same in America to undermine Google's new retail threat to its Galaxy line.

    Still, despite the fact the X-Phone may be cooler and superior technically to the Galaxy S4, Google's retail efforts will all fail because it lacks Samsung's manufacturing and marketing scale and won't be able to produce enough X-Phones to overtake Samsung's Galaxy line. Google is just not a hardware company, and its leaders would all have to be replaced by supply-chain experts like Tim Cook to even entertain the idea. Google's whole culture is not hardware-friendly and its top geeks actually look down on hardware techies with the utmost contempt. So Google's whole move into hardware is just one big waste of time. On the other hand, Samsung's the global manufacturing juggernaut without whom even Apple has difficulties producing enough of its products to meet demand, so Samsung will ultimately beat Google's new stores. But Samsung itself will fail on building a Tizen ecosystem because developing and leading an ecosystem is just not in its manufacturing-oriented DNA.

    In the Google-Samsung divorce, they BOTH want to divorce as soon as possible and "go Apple" in their own separate ways, because each believes its own independent future is brighter and more profitable than its previously married past. Regardless of what the other feels, Samsung will pursue Tizen and its own ecosystem and Google will sell the X-Phone, X-Tablet, Google Glass, and other non-Samsung hardware in its own retail stores and, because of this, they'll necessarily compete with each other and become the fiercest of enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    To see Tizen, view the incredible demo video of Tizen made by Samsung Executive Vice President Jong-deok Choi I posted on Page 3 of this thread. Also, see the video on that page that I posted of Tizen running Android apps. Tizen does everything Android does PLUS a lot of cool, new, amazing stuff Android will never be capable of. Tizen basically steals and co-opts the entire existing Android app ecosystem from underneath Google and then runs away with it.

    Samsung owns and controls Tizen completely. From the recent Feb. 13, 2013, Korea Times article that says Samsung will announce its high-end Tizen phone at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona on Feb. 25-28: "Tizen is an open source, Linux-based OS like Android. Though it is a collaboration between Samsung and American technology giant Intel, the former owns the rights to the software development kit, or tools to work on the OS, the most valuable certificate of ownership."

    Today, it is also reported that Google will open up in time for the holiday season a chain of its own retail stores, very similar to Apple's stores, that will sell all things Google: X-Phones, X-Tablets, Google Glass, Nexus 7 tablets, Google Cars, Google Delivery Mini-Drones, and whatever other exotic game-changing Google hardware products being developed in its labs.

    In other words, Google is hell-bent on "going Apple" like Samsung and selling BOTH hardware and software in order to achieve Apple-like margins for its greedy shareholders. What's most interesting is that Google won't even try to put advertising on Google Glass, which will have margins much higher than the iPhone's. Google sees how Android hardware device sales have let Samsung's stock rise 9-fold in the past 5 years, giving it a market cap almost as big as Google's own, while Google's market cap today is roughly the same as it was 5 years ago. Google is jealous of Samsung's profiting off of Android and deeply desires to start making huge Android hardware profits itself since Android is its own baby.

    Google won't be selling any Samsung Galaxy phones or tablets in its retail stores but only its own Google X-Phones, X-Tablets, Google Glass, etc. Google has seen the light and is moving into hardware and needs stores to show and sell its amazing, cool hardware. Apple's and Samsung's market cap together from selling mobile Internet devices is about $750 billion, or 3 times as big as Google's, whose market cap is 95% derived from advertising only.

    Samsung is not pleased about the X-Phone and Google's new retail stores pushing the X-Phone and Google Glass, so it's putting Tizen on the Galaxy S4. It would be irresponsible for Samsung to do otherwise and pretend that Google is not serious about moving into mobile Internet devices like smartphones, which are Samsung's bread and butter and surged to 75% of its revenues in its latest quarter.

    Samsung already has some stand-alone stores but will also start mimicing Apple and create its own retail stores in America. They already have such stores all over the place in Korea, selling everything from Samsung refrigerators to Galaxy Note 2s, so it won't be too hard for them to do the same in America to undermine Google's new retail threat to its Galaxy line.

    Still, despite the fact the X-Phone may be cooler and superior technically to the Galaxy S4, Google's retail efforts will all fail because it lacks Samsung's manufacturing and marketing scale and won't be able to produce enough X-Phones to overtake Samsung's Galaxy line. Google is just not a hardware company, and its leaders would all have to be replaced by supply-chain experts like Tim Cook to even entertain the idea. Google's whole culture is not hardware-friendly and its top geeks actually look down on hardware techies with the utmost contempt. So Google's whole move into hardware is just one big waste of time. On the other hand, Samsung's the global manufacturing juggernaut without whom even Apple has difficulties producing enough of its products to meet demand, so Samsung will ultimately beat Google's new stores. But Samsung itself will fail on building a Tizen ecosystem because developing and leading an ecosystem is just not in its manufacturing-oriented DNA.

    In the Google-Samsung divorce, they BOTH want to divorce as soon as possible and "go Apple" in their own separate ways, because each believes its own independent future is brighter and more profitable than its previously married past. Regardless of what the other feels, Samsung will pursue Tizen and its own ecosystem and Google will sell the X-Phone, X-Tablet, Google Glass, and other non-Samsung hardware in its own retail stores and, because of this, they'll necessarily compete with each other and become the fiercest of enemies.
    While I see Samsung using the new os I don't see it being on the s4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    To see Tizen, view the incredible demo video of Tizen made by Samsung Executive Vice President Jong-deok Choi I posted on Page 3 of this thread. Also, see the video on that page that I posted of Tizen running Android apps. Tizen does everything Android does PLUS a lot of cool, new, amazing stuff Android will never be capable of. Tizen basically steals and co-opts the entire existing Android app ecosystem from underneath Google and then runs away with it.

    Samsung owns and controls Tizen completely. From the recent Feb. 13, 2013, Korea Times article that says Samsung will announce its high-end Tizen phone at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona on Feb. 25-28: "Tizen is an open source, Linux-based OS like Android. Though it is a collaboration between Samsung and American technology giant Intel, the former owns the rights to the software development kit, or tools to work on the OS, the most valuable certificate of ownership."

    Today, it is also reported that Google will open up in time for the holiday season a chain of its own retail stores, very similar to Apple's stores, that will sell all things Google: X-Phones, X-Tablets, Google Glass, Nexus 7 tablets, Google Cars, Google Delivery Mini-Drones, and whatever other exotic game-changing Google hardware products being developed in its labs.

    In other words, Google is hell-bent on "going Apple" like Samsung and selling BOTH hardware and software in order to achieve Apple-like margins for its greedy shareholders. What's most interesting is that Google won't even try to put advertising on Google Glass, which will have margins much higher than the iPhone's. Google sees how Android hardware device sales have let Samsung's stock rise 9-fold in the past 5 years, giving it a market cap almost as big as Google's own, while Google's market cap today is roughly the same as it was 5 years ago. Google is jealous of Samsung's profiting off of Android and deeply desires to start making huge Android hardware profits itself since Android is its own baby.

    Google won't be selling any Samsung Galaxy phones or tablets in its retail stores but only its own Google X-Phones, X-Tablets, Google Glass, etc. Google has seen the light and is moving into hardware and needs stores to show and sell its amazing, cool hardware. Apple's and Samsung's market cap together from selling mobile Internet devices is about $750 billion, or 3 times as big as Google's, whose market cap is 95% derived from advertising only.

    Samsung is not pleased about the X-Phone and Google's new retail stores pushing the X-Phone and Google Glass, so it's putting Tizen on the Galaxy S4. It would be irresponsible for Samsung to do otherwise and pretend that Google is not serious about moving into mobile Internet devices like smartphones, which are Samsung's bread and butter and surged to 75% of its revenues in its latest quarter.

    Samsung already has some stand-alone stores but will also start mimicing Apple and create its own retail stores in America. They already have such stores all over the place in Korea, selling everything from Samsung refrigerators to Galaxy Note 2s, so it won't be too hard for them to do the same in America to undermine Google's new retail threat to its Galaxy line.

    Still, despite the fact the X-Phone may be cooler and superior technically to the Galaxy S4, Google's retail efforts will all fail because it lacks Samsung's manufacturing and marketing scale and won't be able to produce enough X-Phones to overtake Samsung's Galaxy line. Google is just not a hardware company, and its leaders would all have to be replaced by supply-chain experts like Tim Cook to even entertain the idea. Google's whole culture is not hardware-friendly and its top geeks actually look down on hardware techies with the utmost contempt. So Google's whole move into hardware is just one big waste of time. On the other hand, Samsung's the global manufacturing juggernaut without whom even Apple has difficulties producing enough of its products to meet demand, so Samsung will ultimately beat Google's new stores. But Samsung itself will fail on building a Tizen ecosystem because developing and leading an ecosystem is just not in its manufacturing-oriented DNA.

    In the Google-Samsung divorce, they BOTH want to divorce as soon as possible and "go Apple" in their own separate ways, because each believes its own independent future is brighter and more profitable than its previously married past. Regardless of what the other feels, Samsung will pursue Tizen and its own ecosystem and Google will sell the X-Phone, X-Tablet, Google Glass, and other non-Samsung hardware in its own retail stores and, because of this, they'll necessarily compete with each other and become the fiercest of enemies.
    Blah blah blah. How do you have time to write all this? And why do you care so much?

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    Samsung is about to flood the market with 10-20 Tizen smartphones this year and more next year that all run all Android apps with its ACL plus offer very cool HTML5 apps that will blow your mind away. Samsung doesn't go halfway, it flooded the market with feature phones to kill Nokia and then Android phones to kill the iPhone and now Tizen phones to co-opt and replace Google's ecosystem in favor of its own. It's got massive chip, memory, and display capabilities that allow it to do human wave attacks and crush anybody. You will buy a Tizen phone over an Android phone as your next phone even if you don't want to because it'll be the next iteration of Samsung's world-famous Galaxy line whose marketing campaign will bombard you day and night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    Samsung is about to flood the market with 10-20 Tizen smartphones this year and more next year that all run all Android apps with its ACL plus offer very cool HTML5 apps that will blow your mind away. Samsung doesn't go halfway, it flooded the market with feature phones to kill Nokia and then Android phones to kill the iPhone and now Tizen phones to co-opt and replace Google's ecosystem in favor of its own. It's got massive chip, memory, and display capabilities that allow it to do human wave attacks and crush anybody. You will buy a Tizen phone over an Android phone as your next phone even if you don't want to because it'll be the next iteration of Samsung's world-famous Galaxy line whose marketing campaign will bombard you day and night.
    Take a nap bro lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzanette View Post
    If you want to run Android apps, why would you use a non-Android phone running some compatibility software on top of it?
    didnt a little company try that already with some tablet... now what was it.................


    oh yea,

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    I doubt we will see Tizen on the S4. What I think is far, far more likely is an S4 clone/variant running Tizen (ala GS3 and Ativ S). Samsung can't quit Android cold turkey like that, Android is too popular. Now, Samsung does have a good name, particularly with the non-techy crowd, and they are more likely to buy a non-Android Samsung than hard core techies. I could see Samsung replacing Android with Tizen on its mid to low end phones this year, and I think we have about a 50-50 shot at Samsung's 2014 line being predominately Tizen with Android as back up.
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    Without Samsung's manufacturing and marketing capabilities, Android would have died long ago. Without Samsung, every other Android OEM manufacturer is a profitless midget, to put it mildly, including Google's own Motorola. In other words, Samsung controls the market with its monopoly manufacturing and marketing capabilities, and whichever way Samsung goes is the way the market will also go. Samsung's manufacturing and marketing capabilties simply overpower those of any competitor. As Tim Cook said in his NBC interview with Brian Williams, the actual knowledge and expertise to produce consumer electronics on a large-scale has simply left America's shores forever and is concentrated in Asia, which today largely means Samsung (but the Chinese are catching up and are just a few years behind, as Samsung itself recently warned). Apple is trying to separate from Samsung but finding it extremely difficult. Google has helped sow the seeds of its own destruction in creating this creature called Samsung who, for its own business reasons now, has to steal and co-opt via Tizen the entire Android app ecosystem from Google in order to drive its own move into software and services on its path to becoming a half-trillion dollar company. Android developers will just offer their apps without any modifications on the Samsung Play Store. Samsung's Android hardware is getting squeezed from below by Huawei and ZTE and at the top from the iPhone and X-Phone who all foster and enjoy their own ecosystems. Having one's own ecosystem guarantees one's long-term viability much better than selling commodity Android hardware alone. So both Samsung and Google want to "go Apple" and have their own complete ecosystems with hardware + software + services, which is actually just the IBM model of Palmisano over the past decade that even convinced Warren Buffett to invest over $10 billion in IBM.

    Samsung has already tested and/or demonstrated Tizen on the Galaxy S3 and S2, so putting it on the Galaxy S4 is merely the next step. They'll actually flood the market with Tizen phones from the high-end to the low-end at every price point, which has been Samsung's "human wave" strategy before on both feature phones and Android phones. It won't be a half-hearted attempt focused on just low-to-mid-level phones, which is naive and wishful thinking. The first Tizen phone will be a high-end, not low-end, phone announced at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona next week. Piggybacking on the already-successful Galaxy line will be the quickest, most effective way to introduce Tizen to the masses on a mass scale, which is Samsung's objective. Samsung will promote Tizen on the Galaxy S4 as "Android Plus" because it'll run all Android apps flawlessly and offer widgets just as the S3 does plus offer incredible new HTML5 app capabilities that will blow everyone away once Samsung reveals them to the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    Samsung has already tested and/or demonstrated Tizen on the Galaxy S3 and S2, so putting it on the Galaxy S4 is the next logical step. They'll actually flood the market with Tizen phones from the high-end to the low-end at every price point, which has been Samsung's "human wave" strategy before on both feature phones and Android phones. It won't be a half-hearted attempt focused on just low-to-mid-level phones. The first Tizen phone will be a high-end, not low-end, phone at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona next week.
    What are your sources on this?

    It's entertaining to speculate. Everyone does it, it's kind of like enjoying the fun of throwing out large and bombastic claims and not having the responsibility of backing any of them up with facts. But until you do provide sources, your claims are just that: speculation, not fact.

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    I've already provided the links, but here they are again:

    Samsung's high-end Tizen device to be announced at Mobile World Congress next week:


    Tizen tested on the Galaxy S3:


    Tizen demoed on the Galaxy S2:


    Tizen running Android apps:
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    I've already provided the links, but here they are again:

    Samsung's high-end Tizen device to be announced at Mobile World Congress next week:


    Tizen tested on the Galaxy S3:


    Tizen demoed on the Galaxy S2:


    Tizen running Android apps:
    Your first video just shows an OS running on a Galaxy SII. That's why the video is titled "Tizen on Samsung Galaxy S II." The second video shows the same.

    You can't even verify or prove your most basic claim, that Samsung is going to release Tizen on a "high end device." If you don't have the facts on that straight, how do you really expect anyone to take your more wild and baseless claims seriously?

    I'll answer that question for you: they won't, or they shouldn't based on what you've stated thus far.

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    See next post
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    Of course, my first video above shows Tizen being demonstrated on the Galaxy S2. That's why I labelled the video "Tizen demoed on Galaxy S2." By the way, the video was made by Samsung EVP Jong-desk Choi in May of last year before the Galaxy S3 even came out. So of course it's a Galaxy S2. The link I posted before that shows the Galaxy S3 with Tizen getting Wifi certification 4 months ago. In addition, please actually read the Korea Times article I linked above about Samsung's releasing a "high-end" Tizen device at the Mobile World Congress next week. It was the first link in my post above. You seem to have a basic problem with reading. Lastly, the last of the 4 links shows Tizen running on an Android tablet, not the Galaxy S2, and running Android apps.
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    Still hasn't sunk in yet, has it?

    You made a whole lot of claims, and I asked you for your sources to verify your claims. In response to my request you posted two videos which show an OS running on a Galaxy SII.

    Essentially, we're back to where we started, which is: your posts are mostly speculation, not fact. Perhaps if you actually answered the questions thoughtfully from my original post, we could have solved the issue and moved on. But it seems like you'd rather just waste time and make lots of wild statements.

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    Geez, don't you know how to click on a link? Here's the Korea Times quote which you could have read yourself if you bothered to click on the link I provided: "The firm (Samsung) will showcase a high-end phone running on the (Tizen) OS to clients at the Mobile World Congress to be held in Barcelona from Feb. 25 to 28".

    From the article about the Galaxy S3 with Tizen getting Wifi certification: "It seems that the folks over at Samsung are busy with the “next big thing” that is already in the market, the Samsung Galaxy S3. The thing is, the Galaxy S3 that is being worked upon is no ordinary Galaxy S3 that you can find in store shelves, simply because it is being used to test out Tizen, right after Samsung picked up a WiFi certification for it to boot."

    Are you an *****?
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    Lots of companies showcase products - doesn't mean that they will release a product to market.

    Ever hear of something called a "concept car"? Just because Ford showcases a carbon fiber Focus doesn't mean Ford will sell carbon fiber cars. That's called "leaping to conclusions," which is what you are doing.

    Again, no hard evidence that Samsung is releasing a Tizen S4. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    Geez, don't you know how to click on a link? Here's the Korea Times quote which you could have read yourself if you bothered to click on the link I provided: "The firm (Samsung) will showcase a high-end phone running on the (Tizen) OS to clients at the Mobile World Congress to be held in Barcelona from Feb. 25 to 28".

    From the article about the Galaxy S3 with Tizen getting Wifi certification: "It seems that the folks over at Samsung are busy with the “next big thing” that is already in the market, the Samsung Galaxy S3. The thing is, the Galaxy S3 that is being worked upon is no ordinary Galaxy S3 that you can find in store shelves, simply because it is being used to test out Tizen, right after Samsung picked up a WiFi certification for it to boot."

    Are you an *****?
    Are you an *****?

    That article is an editorial. Nothing fact in it whatsoever. All pure speculation just like your posts.

    The only official in it is that "Samsung officially announced that it plans to release a Tizen phone within this year."

    No specifics about when or what type or how many officially stated.

    Even the quotes in that article are from "industry officials" not to be named or have anything to do with Samsung.

    Sorry your credibility, if you ever had any, is now shot...

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    My God, you're dreaming. The quote I gave was not of any official but of the author of the article itself, and you can ask Korea Times reporter Cho Mu-hyun himself if you think it was not a news article. You're truly pathetic if you think that it was an editorial and not a straight news article. Again, anyone can simply click on the article and see it's news and not op-ed. Your level of denial is something that would be more expected in an insane asylum. Given the amount of denial, it's clear people are just having a hard time with and not mentally prepared for the Google-Samsung divorce and probably will require intensive psychotherapy for the next decade at least. But the more astute among you will understand why this divorce had to happen and Samsung and Google each has its own business agenda.
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    Samsung itself announced on Jan. 3 it would come out with a whole line-up of Tizen devices in 2013 (), and the Korea Times article just gave a release date for the first one, a "high-end" model. This is no mere concept as you continue to wishfully believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    Samsung itself announced on Jan. 3 it would come out with a whole line-up of Tizen devices in 2013 (), and the Korea Times article just gave a release date for the first one, a "high-end" model. This is no mere concept as you continue to wishfully believe.
    '“We plan to release new, competitive Tizen devices within this year and will keep expanding the lineup depending on market conditions,” Suwon, South Korea-based Samsung said in an e- mailed statement today. The company didn’t elaborate on model specifications, prices or timeframe for their debut.'

    Yeah lots of specifics in that article :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    Samsung itself announced on Jan. 3 it would come out with a whole line-up of Tizen devices in 2013 (), and the Korea Times article just gave a release date for the first one, a "high-end" model. This is no mere concept as you continue to wishfully believe.
    Well now, that's better. Now we are actually looking at facts pertinent to the actual thread. It's just interesting to me that it took me about 4 posts for you to actually respond with your sources. The first time I asked for your sources, you replied with a video on YouTube that had nothing to do with the subject of the thread, which is the Galaxy S4.

    The email mentioned in the article does state that Samsung plans to release Tizen devices, however it does not mention what devices. I fail to see that as solid evidence that the Galaxy S4 will be released with Tizen. Again, that's my opinion. But you obviously don't have any evidence to suggest otherwise, and your wild claims that Samsung will "flood the market" with Tizen devices, when the email states they plan to take a cautious approach, is laughable.

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    Default Re: Galaxy S4 Running Tizen OS Instead of Android?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by zippero View Post
    My God, you're dreaming. The quote I gave was not of any official but of the author of the article itself, and you can ask Korea Times reporter Cho Mu-hyun himself if you think it was not a news article. You're truly pathetic if you think that it was an editorial and not a straight news article. Again, anyone can simply click on the article and see it's news and not op-ed. Your level of denial is something that would be more expected in an insane asylum. Given the amount of denial, it's clear people are just having a hard time with and not mentally prepared for the Google-Samsung divorce and probably will require intensive psychotherapy for the next decade at least. But the more astute among you will understand why this divorce had to happen and Samsung and Google each has its own business agenda.
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    Tizen SDK 2.0 + Screenshots released today by Samsung:



    Yes, I know you are all collectively in denial, but Tizen is coming! SamMobile says Samsung's first Tizen device will be "mostly based on the Galaxy S3," which means not some low- or entry-level device as you pathetically hope for but, let's cut to the chase, the Galaxy S4, because that's where where all this is heading!!! Samsung wouldn't base it on the S3 if it weren't within the Galaxy family and, furthermore, if it weren't in line to succeed the S3 as the S4 within the Galaxy family!!!
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