04-19-2013 01:41 PM
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- Samsung has been the muscle behind Android, and without Samsung, there's no other Android phone manufacturer that can compete, not even Google's hapless, profitless Motorola and its stupid-looking X-Phone, which is already a huge disappointment. Without Samsung, Android truly is on life support, as Samsung is asking for an Apple-like, 75% cut of Google's cash-cow search revenues on Samsung's mobile devices and Samsung will steal and co-opt the entire Android ecosystem from underneath Google anyway because Tizen easily runs all Android apps. The once-junior partner Samsung is now the senior partner, and it's no wonder Andy Rubin got axed for letting this happen.03-22-2013 08:32 PM
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- Samsung has been the muscle behind Android, and without Samsung, there's no other Android phone manufacturer that can compete, not even Google's hapless, profitless Motorola and its stupid-looking X-Phone, which is already a huge disappointment. Without Samsung, Android truly is on life support, as Samsung is asking for an Apple-like, 75% cut of Google's cash-cow search revenues on Samsung's mobile devices and Samsung will steal and co-opt the entire Android ecosystem from underneath Google anyway because Tizen easily runs all Android apps. The once-junior partner Samsung is now the senior partner, and it's no wonder Andy Rubin got axed for letting this happen.03-23-2013 07:47 AM
- Everyone's abandoning Android this year. First, Samsung because it's moving to Tizen and wants its own ecosystem more and more to earn Apple-like profits. Second, Google because Android's been a humongous money pit that's only enriched Samsung and it has far greater control over its Chrome OS and thus has much greater profit potential.03-23-2013 08:28 AM
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Android Central Forums03-23-2013 09:59 AM
- First off..
Android Apps will port easily to Tizen. So the Tizen store could grow faster then Google Play initially did.
Enter Tizen, the pliable OS. Samsung and Intel may be spearheading its development, but theyve been joined by a conglomeration of Asian telecoms, including Huawei (SHE:002502), KT Corporation (NYSE:KT), NTT Docomo (NYSECM), and SK Telecom (NYSE:SKM). These firms have their thumbs to the wind and their noses to profit and its leading them away from Google. Tizen --due to ship on Samsung devices later this year -- will retain Androids more desirable features, like the low price tag and the cross-compatibility between markets, but it will also leave room for regional adaptation, and allow for synergy with a wide range of content providers. Its similarity to Android means that applications will port easily. With Samsungs size, the company shouldnt have much difficulty convincing developers to make that happen.
1) Tizen is well-supported. Tizen is steered primarily by Samsung & Intel, and the Tizen Association (formerly LiMo Foundation), all under the umbrella of the Linux Foundation. The Tizen Association counts Fujitsu, Huawei, Orange, Panasonic, Sprint, and Vodafone among its members.
2) Tizen is compatible with HTML5. Poor app ecosystems doomed many mobile Linux platforms, and certainly played a role in the downfall of BlackBerry and the tepid acceptance of earlier Windows Phones. HTML5 compatibility will give Tizen users access to a wide range of apps without the need to address the challenge of attracting native app developers.
3) The Android brand is no longer as important. Samsung, the leading manufacturer (#1) of Android-based smartphones, rarely uses the word Android in its advertisements anymore. Check it out for yourself on the companys newly launched Galaxy S4 page. Not a single reference to Android on the entire site. I dont think its too far-fetched to read to read between the lines
SAMSUNG's Digital World...
4) Samsung is poised to ditch Android. Despite being the Android leader, Samsung has never fully committed to the platform. The company has seemingly always been in search of a strong alternative, having at different times dabbled with bada, MeeGo, Windows, and now Tizen. Between some of the legal headaches associated with the use of Android (Apple lawsuits, the Microsoft Tax, etc.) and Googles acquisition of a top competitor (Motorola Mobility), Samsung appears more eager than ever to move on
After Google planted the mole in Apple's board of directors during the planning of the first iPhone and stealing their ideas it seems sorta surreal to see Samsung sorta doing the same thing to Google ? Samsung has their iPhone and now has their own Android ...03-25-2013 07:32 PM
- So the Tizen Association consists of companies running in the red, nice.
If a giant like Microsoft can't get windows mobile os off the ground we'll see what happens with samsung. We're seeing cracks in the Apple jugernaught so who knows.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Android Central Forums03-25-2013 07:44 PM
- Google just fired Andy Rubin and merged Android into its Chrome OS division, headed by that ectomorphic Indian guy. Google's plan for Android is just for it to be subsumed into Chrome. Google's lost control of Android, and giving Android over to the Indian Chrome guy is Google's way of saying enough is enough with Andy Rubin's loser strategy.03-29-2013 12:08 AM
- Google just fired Andy Rubin and merged Android into its Chrome OS division, headed by that ectomorphic Indian guy. Google's plan for Android is just for it to be subsumed into Chrome. Google's lost control of Android, and giving Android over to the Indian Chrome guy is Google's way of saying enough is enough with Andy Rubin's loser strategy.03-29-2013 12:18 AM
- Rob F1 above is dead on on multiple points. First, Google services mean sh** in Asia. Your beloved Google services don't even exist in the biggest so-called Android market in the world, China. These Asians prefer Baidu, Qihoo, Sohou, etc. and their local services to Google's services, which they consider stupid US spyware anyway. Tizen is much more customizable for these Asian markets without all the irrelevant US Google spyware pre-installed. Second, Android would have 1% market share were it not for Samsung's unrivaled manufacturing capacity and expertise and its $15 billion a year marketing budget, which is almost 5 times bigger than Apple's. Unlike Microsoft, Google's own Motorola, HTC, LG, Sony, etc., Samsung has PROVEN its ability to dominate in the mobile world. Third, it is the irony of ironies that Samsung should now steal Google's Android ecosystem away from Google just as Android stole its basic concept from iOS. Google made a deal with the Devil when it partnered with Samsung, and Samsung basically used Google for the past 5 years just like it used Apple to first learn manufacturing and then move into software and services, which will all go into its launching Tizen several months from now. Samsung just announced its clone of Google Play three days ago and, unsurprisingly, it looks like an exact copy of Google Play selling Android apps for use on both legacy Android and new Tizen phones by Samsung. New Galaxy S4 buyers and current Samsung phone owners will be directed there instead of Google Play. I'm definitely sure Google is not pleased about this, but as I said, Google made a deal with the Devil.03-29-2013 12:29 AM
- Android team and Chrome OS team have been fighting for the past 2 years, according to the Wall Street Journal. Android team didn't even want to allow Chrome browser on Android. But Chrome OS won the war, and Rubin is out with no longer anything to do with Android. The Indian Chrome OS head has been given the Android division. More importantly, Google lost control of Android worldwide so this was bound to happen. Despite Android's 75% market share, Google makes more money from iOS users than Android users. So Rubin got axed. The Indian guy is tasked with regaining control over Android by absorbing it into Chrome OS, over which Google has much more direct control. It's a three-way ecosystem war now between Samsung and Google and Apple. Each wants to control both its own hardware and software, which any person could have seen coming. But Google will fail because duopolies tend to persist and Google has no manufacturing experience and its Motorola is a constant joke. Even the maker of the Nexus 4, LG, doesn't cooperate in increasing production because the Nexus competes with LG's own phones. Where's Google going to get its manufacturing capacity to compete on a large scale? Samsung holds all the cards and will smash Google like some crunchy beetle.03-29-2013 12:35 AM
- The friction between the Android and Chrome OS teams was well-known, and it's clear who came out on top--Sundar, not Andy. Heck, they completely gave Android to the Chrome OS boss with Rubin nowhere in sight, which means this wasn't just a simple firing but reflects an entire new strategic direction for Android as it gets subsumed into Chrome OS. Andy didn't wake up one day and say to himself 1) Android should be absorbed into Chrome OS, 2) my enemy Sundar Pichai should be the new boss of the combined Chrome/Android unit instead of me, and 3) I'm no longer the guy to run Android which I personally founded and which is my baby. The WSJ article also said Larry Page saw Chrome OS as being much more the sine qua non or core of Google and minimized Android's importance to Google's long-term future.03-29-2013 01:26 AM
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