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    Default Is a complete mirror / copy from one S4 to another S4 possible?

    Is it possible to mirror one s4 to another?
    Sadly, despite my s4 being in an OtterBox Defender case, my phone's screen and digitizer broke when dropped.
    I have a brand new s4 now, and would like to mirror my old phone to my new.
    - My old s4 has recently been updated with the latest OS revision.
    - I can access all data from my old s4 from my laptop via USB (running Windows 7)
    - I also have a SanDisk 32GB microSD card
    (My apologies in advance if this has already been answered. I searched the forums and didn't find anything directly related to mirroring an s4)

    Please help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mousepaws View Post
    Is it possible to mirror one s4 to another?
    Sadly, despite my s4 being in an OtterBox Defender case, my phone's screen and digitizer broke when dropped.
    I have a brand new s4 now, and would like to mirror my old phone to my new.
    - My old s4 has recently been updated with the latest OS revision.
    - I can access all data from my old s4 from my laptop via USB (running Windows 7)
    - I also have a SanDisk 32GB microSD card
    (My apologies in advance if this has already been answered. I searched the forums and didn't find anything directly related to mirroring an s4)

    Please help!
    I'm sure you can just drag the data from the old S4 to the new S4 and your apps should be synced with your Gmail account (that is assuming you had one connected). I think that should make things eerily simlar :P
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    Default Re: Is a complete mirror / copy from one s4 to another s4 possible?

    Not just the apps, but would that also mirror all in app info? (notes, saved browser links, game saves, game saves, contacts, text messages?)
    I need a complete mirror of my old s4.


    Quote Originally Posted by wizzrah View Post
    I'm sure you can just drag the data from the old S4 to the new S4 and your apps should be synced with your Gmail account (that is assuming you had one connected). I think that should make things eerily simlar :P
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    Default Re: Is a complete mirror / copy from one s4 to another s4 possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by mousepaws View Post
    Not just the apps, but would that also mirror all in app info? (notes, saved browser links, game saves, game saves, contacts, text messages?)
    I need a complete mirror of my old s4.
    That has to be done from the old phone itself (which you say is not working because the screen+digitizer is not working). Otherwise, you can't do that :/
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    If both devices are rooted and the same model S4 it is fairly easy. Just make a nandroid backup from the old S4 and move it to the new S4. Then you have to make a backup on the new S4 and the change the name of the old backup to match the device number of the new S4 and you should be good to go.

    I did this when I moved from a 16gb S4 to a 32gb one and it worked perfect.


    ***Edit****I just re-read your post and realized the old phone is broken. There may be a way to do it via adb but you'd have to research it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophos View Post
    If both devices are rooted and the same model S4 it is fairly easy. Just make a nandroid backup from the old S4 and move it to the new S4. Then you have to make a backup on the new S4 and the change the name of the old backup to match the device number of the new S4 and you should be good to go.

    I did this when I moved from a 16gb S4 to a 32gb one and it worked perfect.

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    It doesn't sound like he was rooted (I might be wrong, I'm just assuming things).

    Stop playing with your food!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mousepaws View Post
    Not just the apps, but would that also mirror all in app info? (notes, saved browser links, game saves, game saves, contacts, text messages?)
    I need a complete mirror of my old s4.
    Like someone mentioned, if you're rooted and have a custom recovery. That'll probably work
    If not, something like Helium backup works great for app backups. Does the screen not work at all or do you just want a new phone without a cracked screen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    Like someone mentioned, if you're rooted and have a custom recovery. That'll probably work
    If not, something like Helium backup works great for app backups. Does the screen not work at all or do you just want a new phone without a cracked screen?

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    I second Helium.
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    Default Re: Is a complete mirror / copy from one s4 to another s4 possible?

    My phone(s) are not rooted. Didn't get enough time to root. (rats!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mousepaws View Post
    My phone(s) are not rooted. Didn't get enough time to root. (rats!)
    That's Ok. We all live and learn. Just before to keep things backed up in the future. You may not be interested in rooting, but as suggested, Helium will backup your data for later restore.

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    Default Re: Is a complete mirror / copy from one s4 to another s4 possible?

    Don't know about "live and learn" ........
    There's still gotta be a way, even if that way is to just take the board out of the old phone and put it in the new phone. That's certainly a way.
    So far, since posting this, I found a program called Kies , and have successfully done a complete backup of the old phone.
    Accordingly, I'm not going to quit trying.........


    Quote Originally Posted by srkmagnus View Post
    That's Ok. We all live and learn. Just before to keep things backed up in the future. You may not be interested in rooting, but as suggested, Helium will backup your data for later restore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mousepaws View Post
    Don't know about "live and learn" ........
    There's still gotta be a way, even if that way is to just take the board out of the old phone and put it in the new phone. That's certainly a way.
    So far, since posting this, I found a program called Kies , and have successfully done a complete backup of the old phone.
    Accordingly, I'm not going to quit trying.........
    If Kies was able to back it up, what else do you need?
    Does the screen work at all?

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    Default Re: Is a complete mirror / copy from one s4 to another s4 possible?

    What else I need is.. a way to get that image made with Kies to work on the new phone.
    The screen on my old phone does not work at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    If Kies was able to back it up, what else do you need?
    Does the screen work at all?

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    Default Re: Is a complete mirror / copy from one s4 to another s4 possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by mousepaws View Post
    What else I need is.. a way to get that image made with Kies to work on the new phone.
    The screen on my old phone does not work at all.
    Kies won't make any images of the OS. That's what nandroid backups are for
    Not sure what else you can do, sorry

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    If your rooted you can bring over a backup file otherwise you can only get user data not apps or app data

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    Quote Originally Posted by mousepaws View Post
    What else I need is.. a way to get that image made with Kies to work on the new phone.
    The screen on my old phone does not work at all.
    You know, when I first traded up to Android from Palm a few years ago, my biggest complaint was that there was no good way to make a complete backup. With Palm, I could make an image and if I lost, say, my 680, I could just get another and instantly be back up, no muss, no fuss.

    However, since I am also in the Google eco system, things are pretty easy at this point. When I recently got a new tablet, once I signed into Google, it immediately restored all my apps (but one--backgammon EA, for some reason!) and I was off and running. I did have to fix my customization options: put the widgets and folders back on my home screen, restore my wallpaper. My media files, however, are stored on the card, which I backup manually, so that wasn't an issue. (Another fine use for SD cards...) Photos I have set to backup instantly to Facebook. Contacts are stored with Google. Lookout also backs up things like photos, SMS messages, call logs, etc.

    The only real hassle is that I like to keep my entire unread Kindle library on the phone. And since you have to re-register another Kindle version, you have to DL them all again, which is a bit of a PITA for organizational purposes, considering that I have a pretty big library. It would be nice if Amazon could figure out a way around that. I understand why it occurs, but it is nonetheless a PITA.

    Overall, I'd still like to be able to push a button and restore as I used to do, but there are a variety of workarounds that made this pretty easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieurms View Post
    You know, when I first traded up to Android from Palm a few years ago, my biggest complaint was that there was no good way to make a complete backup. With Palm, I could make an image and if I lost, say, my 680, I could just get another and instantly be back up, no muss, no fuss.

    However, since I am also in the Google eco system, things are pretty easy at this point. When I recently got a new tablet, once I signed into Google, it immediately restored all my apps (but one--backgammon EA, for some reason!) and I was off and running. I did have to fix my customization options: put the widgets and folders back on my home screen, restore my wallpaper. My media files, however, are stored on the card, which I backup manually, so that wasn't an issue. (Another fine use for SD cards...) Photos I have set to backup instantly to Facebook. Contacts are stored with Google. Lookout also backs up things like photos, SMS messages, call logs, etc.

    The only real hassle is that I like to keep my entire unread Kindle library on the phone. And since you have to re-register another Kindle version, you have to DL them all again, which is a bit of a PITA for organizational purposes, considering that I have a pretty big library. It would be nice if Amazon could figure out a way around that. I understand why it occurs, but it is nonetheless a PITA.

    Overall, I'd still like to be able to push a button and restore as I used to do, but there are a variety of workarounds that made this pretty easy.
    There are ways to just push a button to make a full backup. You can have an image of the phone and transfer it to another if need be, but you need to have a custom recovery

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    Quote Originally Posted by mousepaws View Post
    Not just the apps, but would that also mirror all in app info? (notes, saved browser links, game saves, game saves, contacts, text messages?)
    I need a complete mirror of my old s4.
    All of that stuff should be synced with your Google account, except for text messages (and maybe game saves, if the games don't sync online). But notes, bookmarks and contacts, as well as calendars and apps, should all sync with your account.

    To answer your question though, if the first device isn't rooted, I don't think there's going to be an easy way to do what you want, if there is a way at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    There are ways to just push a button to make a full backup. You can have an image of the phone and transfer it to another if need be, but you need to have a custom recovery

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    You mean, rooted? Well, I've never particularly wanted to do that, but maybe one day.
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    Helium.... Just be sure to unchecked that "... Smaller back up" button near the bottom of the screen. Helium has saved me a ton of heart ache on several occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieurms View Post
    You mean, rooted? Well, I've never particularly wanted to do that, but maybe one day.
    Yeah, rooted and with a custom recovery. Even if you don't want to have a custom ROM, having a custom recovery is good. Going to do it to any and all of my phones from now on
    For that exact reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tayman52 View Post
    Helium.... Just be sure to unchecked that "... Smaller back up" button near the bottom of the screen. Helium has saved me a ton of heart ache on several occasions.

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    His phone's screen doesn't work. We already suggested that but it's not an option

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    Yeah, rooted and with a custom recovery. Even if you don't want to have a custom ROM, having a custom recovery is good. Going to do it to any and all of my phones from now on
    For that exact reason

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    Well, excuse my ignorance, but I thought you had to be rooted to do a complete phone backup. If I'm not going to root, how is that possible? And if I can't do an image backup, how can there be a complete restore? I assume that's what you mean by "custom recovery"---but you seem to be saying you can do that without rooting. Every backup program I've downloaded in the past seemed to be saying you could only do a complete backup if rooted, which I assume is the prerequisite for restoration.

    Could you elaborate, please? Obviously there is a gap in my knowledge base. Sounds great if it can be done without rooting, and if that's what "custom recovery" means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieurms View Post
    Well, excuse my ignorance, but I thought you had to be rooted to do a complete phone backup. If I'm not going to root, how is that possible? And if I can't do an image backup, how can there be a complete restore? I assume that's what you mean by "custom recovery"---but you seem to be saying you can do that without rooting. Every backup program I've downloaded in the past seemed to be saying you could only do a complete backup if rooted, which I assume is the prerequisite for restoration.

    Could you elaborate, please? Obviously there is a gap in my knowledge base. Sounds great if it can be done without rooting, and if that's what "custom recovery" means.
    I said at the beginning of the post that you need to be rooted AND have a custom recovery. A custom recovery (like TWRP/CWM) replaces the stock recovery, which doesn't have the option to do any backups. Once you install one of these custom recoveries you can make what is called a "nandroid" backup. That's how you make images of the phone's entire OS. I'm not aware of any other ways to do it, and especially not without root

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    I said at the beginning of the post
    So you did. I misunderstood the import of later sentences. In any event, thanks for clarifying. I really do not want to root. Android would do well to come up with an actual solution that doesn't require people to root.
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