1. benhaube's Avatar
    Why can't you just add all your gimmiky "features" that don't work and not skin a beautiful UI with that god awful interface that looks like it was dropped off by the windows XP era?!

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    02-22-2014 01:18 AM
  2. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    I don't know what others have told you.

    Touchwiz has very good visibility especially for people with older ages and people with poor sight.

    Its awfully designed but there's a reason.

    Consider an example :
    If they design settings app like stock Android , visibility sucks , consumers don't like it.If they make whites , its bad for AMOLED.

    So , they couldn't come up with a nice design (atleast that's what I think)
    02-22-2014 08:43 PM
  3. troysyx's Avatar
    I'm kinda curious of the same thing. However, i couldn't tell you what EXACTLY i dont like about it, i just dont like how it looks at all.
    02-22-2014 11:25 PM
  4. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    For me, it's not really about how it looks, but how the whole UI lags the system, and how much space it takes up. The S4 and Note 3 needed a lot of RAM so that the device can run with the memory hog that is TouchWiz.
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    02-23-2014 09:41 AM
  5. Almeuit's Avatar
    Samsung made a deal with Google. Future phones won't be as bloat heavy.. No worries! .

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    02-23-2014 11:06 AM
  6. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    For me, it's not really about how it looks, but how the whole UI lags the system, and how much space it takes up. The S4 and Note 3 needed a lot of RAM so that the device can run with the memory hog that is TouchWiz.
    Agree about storage but not about RAM.

    RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care | Android Central
    02-23-2014 01:35 PM
  7. Johnly's Avatar
    For me, it's not really about how it looks, but how the whole UI lags the system, and how much space it takes up. The S4 and Note 3 needed a lot of RAM so that the device can run with the memory hog that is TouchWiz.
    When running Nova launcher, RAM seems to not be as full as it is with TW. Touch Wiz is a beast and needs that hardware lol.
    02-23-2014 01:45 PM
  8. Johnly's Avatar
    Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Samsung puts a nice spin on it with the whole (we have the largest RAM) therefore our devices have *better* hardware. Or is it just that the OS is such a beast and that operating system can't run well on a Moto X, while newer software from Google can?
    02-23-2014 01:52 PM
  9. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    But if it is such a hog that it interferes with other apps, they need to add more.

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    02-23-2014 01:57 PM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    But if it is such a hog that it interferes with other apps, they need to add more.

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    Samsung made a deal with Google. Future phones won't be as bloat heavy.. No worries! .

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.


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    02-23-2014 03:54 PM
  11. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Samsung puts a nice spin on it with the whole (we have the largest RAM) therefore our devices have *better* hardware. Or is it just that the OS is such a beast and that operating system can't run well on a Moto X, while newer software from Google can?

    At the end of the day , only people complaining too much are bunch of Internet people

    I see plenty of people using Samsung phones everyday and Most of them are happy.I have many friends who own either a Samsung phone or Local OEM Android phone or Lumia.Majority is Samsung. (Same thing when I see outside)
    iPhone maybe 20-30 people.Maybe 3 or 4 people have HTC and Sony/Motorola and 3-4 have Nexus 4/5.Nokia is popular as secondary phones.

    No other manufacturer like HTC , Motorola or Sony come close when it comes to popularity (atleast in my country).

    If other manufacturers are making good phones , I don't see why people still choose Samsung but maybe because they actually give features what average consumers care but not geeks ? I never understand this whole "Apple is doomed" or "Samsung phones are bad" debate.

    Even local OEMs are giving much better devices than Sony/HTC/Motorola.

    For example , In my country , GS4 is cheaper than Nexus 5.Bonus is , if you get a problem with Nexus 5 , its pathetic service.If you get problem with Samsung phone , every city has service center and like 2-3 Samsung premium stores atleast.If you need extra spare battery , it doesn't take much effort.

    Remaining OEMs ? questionable and also very good if they return your phone in less than 2 weeks.Samsung service ? Everything is processed within 1 week max unless major problem.
    02-23-2014 09:26 PM
  12. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    But if it is such a hog that it interferes with other apps, they need to add more.

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    Which device has 3GB RAM ? Only Note III (and G2 pro which is exactly carrying UI like Touchwiz)

    Galaxy S4 has DDR3 RAM while One has DDR2 RAM , its obvious which RAM is faster.

    Samsung always gave better RAM than competition.I don't see any manufacturer doing same.I have been seeing phones from past 3 years closely regarding internal specs especially RAM.
    02-23-2014 09:44 PM
  13. Johnly's Avatar
    At the end of the day , only people complaining too much are bunch of Internet people

    I see plenty of people using Samsung phones everyday and Most of them are happy.I have many friends who own either a Samsung phone or Local OEM Android phone or Lumia.Majority is Samsung. (Same thing when I see outside)
    iPhone maybe 20-30 people.Maybe 3 or 4 people have HTC and Sony/Motorola and 3-4 have Nexus 4/5.Nokia is popular as secondary phones.

    No other manufacturer like HTC , Motorola or Sony come close when it comes to popularity (atleast in my country).

    If other manufacturers are making good phones , I don't see why people still choose Samsung but maybe because they actually give features what average consumers care but not geeks ? I never understand this whole "Apple is doomed" or "Samsung phones are bad" debate.

    Even local OEMs are giving much better devices than Sony/HTC/Motorola.

    For example , In my country , GS4 is cheaper than Nexus 5.Bonus is , if you get a problem with Nexus 5 , its pathetic service.If you get problem with Samsung phone , every city has service center and like 2-3 Samsung premium stores atleast.If you need extra spare battery , it doesn't take much effort.

    Remaining OEMs ? questionable and also very good if they return your phone in less than 2 weeks.Samsung service ? Everything is processed within 1 week max unless major problem.
    I for one are a Samsung fan. This is a little off topic, but it will relate by the end. In another thread we discussed anti virus programs, Norton to be specific. We all agree that Norton is a large resource hog to accomplish important tasks. Other anti virus programs like avast for example are not so heavy on the resources of the hardware, but accomplish the same thing as Norton. Even though I love Samsung, it feels a little gluttonous (for lack of a better term.) Touch Wiz needs more hardware, while other devices do the same thing, but without the need to load so much RAM (again, for lack of a better term.) Not that having to have all that hardware and a RAM hungry OS is a bad thing. Plenty of people use Norton just fine, but I do appreciate when software can use hardware in a optimized way. Software optimization is something Samsung will have to work on I believe to remain a relevant force. Recent releases of their phones have been a bit cheap, and the gimmicks in the software do not always run well. I am on my third note 3 for quality issues.
    02-23-2014 10:26 PM
  14. DS1331's Avatar
    At the end of the day , only people complaining too much are bunch of Internet people

    I see plenty of people using Samsung phones everyday and Most of them are happy.I have many friends who own either a Samsung phone or Local OEM Android phone or Lumia.Majority is Samsung. (Same thing when I see outside)
    iPhone maybe 20-30 people.Maybe 3 or 4 people have HTC and Sony/Motorola and 3-4 have Nexus 4/5.Nokia is popular as secondary phones.

    No other manufacturer like HTC , Motorola or Sony come close when it comes to popularity (atleast in my country).

    If other manufacturers are making good phones , I don't see why people still choose Samsung but maybe because they actually give features what average consumers care but not geeks ? I never understand this whole "Apple is doomed" or "Samsung phones are bad" debate.

    Even local OEMs are giving much better devices than Sony/HTC/Motorola.

    For example , In my country , GS4 is cheaper than Nexus 5.Bonus is , if you get a problem with Nexus 5 , its pathetic service.If you get problem with Samsung phone , every city has service center and like 2-3 Samsung premium stores atleast.If you need extra spare battery , it doesn't take much effort.

    Remaining OEMs ? questionable and also very good if they return your phone in less than 2 weeks.Samsung service ? Everything is processed within 1 week max unless major problem.
    Plain answer, because Samsung phones are the in thing now, just like the iPhone used to be and blackberry. People are buying them because their friends talk about it and hear about it not because they know anything about the phone

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    02-23-2014 10:36 PM
  15. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    Plain answer, because Samsung phones are the in thing now, just like the iPhone used to be and blackberry. People are buying them because their friends talk about it and hear about it not because they know anything about the phone

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    Well , in that case , I saw lot of people who bought Nexus 7 because its cheaper than iPad but not because its better or they know anything about stock Android

    That's how general consumers behave.Majority of them don't know anything about device.They buy it because service/price/looks is better than other or others are using it (and they are happy) Can be any reason
    02-23-2014 10:52 PM
  16. eshropshire's Avatar
    Plain answer, because Samsung phones are the in thing now, just like the iPhone used to be and blackberry. People are buying them because their friends talk about it and hear about it not because they know anything about the phone

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    I can't speak for others, but I moved to Android from iOS 3+ years ago for external storage, ability to change the battery and a nice large screen. These are still a priority for me. For me the Samsung phones meet my requirements. I know people here fall at the feet of Google, and since Google keeps trying to get rid of all storage on devices (phones and computers) and have you download everything from a cloud they must be right. Only its interesting that Samsung, who provides these features also has the highest marketshare.
    spotnjack likes this.
    02-24-2014 11:39 AM
  17. DS1331's Avatar
    Well of course most people on Android Central will research phones before they buy but I should have said "most" people

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    02-26-2014 01:17 AM

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