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    Now THIS is really annoying

    Samsung Galaxy S5 Storage Surprise Could Frustrate Buyers

    The Samsung Galaxy S5 available storage is limited mainly by System Memory and Miscellaneous files on the device. The list below shows what is taking up space on the Galaxy S5.

    System memory – 4.51GB
    Used space – 589MB
    Cached data – 14.33MB
    Miscellaneous files – 2.25GB
    This leaves 8.65GB of internal storage available to users. In addition to TouchWiz on top of Android, Samsung includes a number of S-Apps like S-health, S Translator and others which could account for the lack of user accessible storage

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    So basically, if I buy a 16gb phone, I really get an 8gb one? Smooth move Samsung

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    Why wouldn't they just bump storage to 32gb in the first place??!! Or offer 32 and 64 gb options. Silly sammy

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    No way would I get the 16gb version. 32gb should be minimum!
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    This really bothers me too. I can't believe they are not making the 32 GB the minimum yet. I find some other the other complaints in the other threads pretty silly, but this one I agree with. I know they have the SD card, but all apps won't go there still as far as I know. This could have been rectified with a 32 GB minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth4lyfe View Post
    Now THIS is really annoying

    Samsung Galaxy S5 Storage Surprise Could Frustrate Buyers

    The Samsung Galaxy S5 available storage is limited mainly by System Memory and Miscellaneous files on the device. The list below shows what is taking up space on the Galaxy S5.

    System memory 4.51GB
    Used space 589MB
    Cached data 14.33MB
    Miscellaneous files 2.25GB
    This leaves 8.65GB of internal storage available to users. In addition to TouchWiz on top of Android, Samsung includes a number of S-Apps like S-health, S Translator and others which could account for the lack of user accessible storage

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    That screen shot does not tell the whole story. Let's see a screen shot after a factory reset and format of the SD card. There's no doubt that the user will not be getting a full 16 GB to use. In reality, no device, that it know if, gives the user the full amount of storage advertised.

    Does that mean the S5 cuts user available memory almost in half? Not necessarily. The device was already used and there could have been memory used, which is not shown in the screen shot.

    For the record, I didn't read the source link so I'm basing my thoughts on the post and image.

    Edit - I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srkmagnus View Post
    That screen shot does not tell the whole story. Let's see a screen shot after a factory reset and format of the SD card. There's no doubt that the user will not be getting a full 16 GB to use. In reality, no device, that it know if, gives the user the full amount of storage advertised.

    Does that mean the S5 cuts user available memory almost in half? Not necessarily. The device was already used and there could have been memory used, which is not shown in the screen shot.

    For the record, I didn't read the source link so I'm basing my thoughts on the post and image.

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    I would assume the display models would replicate a factory reseted phone
    Also I wouldnt be surprised since the S4 had the problem as well
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    I actually don't think it's that big of a deal. As long as there's the option for a SD card, 16GB internal is plenty of space for most people. I have everything I could need installed and I have 5GB of internal space still free. An extra 16GB of unused space won't do me any good. I need at least 64GB internal if I'm going to go without an SD card slot so I can fit my music on my phone. In other words, I'll take a phone with 16GB internal and an SD card slot over a phone with 32GB and no SD slot any day. It seems like people who don't have huge apps and either don't put music on their phones or have so much music they need a lot of storage would be pretty common.

    Now if you play games with fancy graphics then you'll probably run out of space a lot faster, but isn't that what the 32GB version is for?

    That being said, it seems like we should be getting to the point where manufacturers will just drop the SD slot and give us bigger internal storage. Samsung might be reusing enough of the old mechanical designs to justify keeping the SD slot and lower internal memory. It's pure speculation because I haven't seen the S5, but there are some similarities between the S3 and S4 (though the board with the SD and SIM slots on it moved). Perhaps when they redo more of the mechanical design of the internals they'll drop the SD slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Schroedl View Post
    I stand corrected - missed that article before posting.

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    This isn't a 'problem.' It's a smartphone OS. Samsung has tons of extra features. You might not like it, but it isn't a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srkmagnus View Post
    I stand corrected - missed that article before posting.
    That's because it didn't exist until ten minutes after you posted.

    Quote Originally Posted by dwd3885 View Post
    This isn't a 'problem.' It's a smartphone OS. Samsung has tons of extra features. You might not like it, but it isn't a problem.
    You're right that the cause itself (system size) isn't a problem by nature, but the resulting lack of space on the internal storage is a legitimate concern for many — even on devices with 'support' for external storage.
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    This is a bit of a problem for me because on my S4, there are times I have been warned I was running out of space to download apps, and had to figure what to delete
    I do have 133 apps though lol
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    I just hope that you can use SD card more freely as even with android 4.3 it still has limits on what can be moved to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by garublador View Post
    I actually don't think it's that big of a deal. As long as there's the option for a SD card, 16GB internal is plenty of space for most people. I have everything I could need installed and I have 5GB of internal space still free. An extra 16GB of unused space won't do me any good. I need at least 64GB internal if I'm going to go without an SD card slot so I can fit my music on my phone. In other words, I'll take a phone with 16GB internal and an SD card slot over a phone with 32GB and no SD slot any day. It seems like people who don't have huge apps and either don't put music on their phones or have so much music they need a lot of storage would be pretty common.

    Now if you play games with fancy graphics then you'll probably run out of space a lot faster, but isn't that what the 32GB version is for?

    That being said, it seems like we should be getting to the point where manufacturers will just drop the SD slot and give us bigger internal storage. Samsung might be reusing enough of the old mechanical designs to justify keeping the SD slot and lower internal memory. It's pure speculation because I haven't seen the S5, but there are some similarities between the S3 and S4 (though the board with the SD and SIM slots on it moved). Perhaps when they redo more of the mechanical design of the internals they'll drop the SD slot.
    Well I agree and disagree with you on this. Personally I don't do well with 16GB of internal storage with android devices. The S4 was even worse as the OS took up so much space. There isn't enough room for apps. I know you can put them on the SD card but part of it still stays on the phone. Some things like google play movies, podcasts, other downloaded content can't be stored on the SD card. However for some people like my boyfriend who I gave the S4 after getting the note 3, 16 GB is fine.

    However what I'm more happy about is the fact that it takes a 128 GB micro SD card. That's awsome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth4lyfe View Post
    This is a bit of a problem for me because on my S4, there are times I have been warned I was running out of space to download apps, and had to figure what to delete
    I do have 133 apps though lol
    My S4 was unworkable because of this. It drove me to the iphone 5S because I was frustrated and need more internal storage. I think they should have made the base model 32 GB like they did with the note 3. That is a perfect phone for me. It has enough internal storage and for the first time I've been able to use an android phone as I've always wanted to.
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    Something else that needs to be kept in mind is all apps are getting bigger, not just games. Some productivity apps can rival games in size. Also remember that the downloaded size is like a zip file. It gets bigger after installation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfdriver97 View Post
    Something else that needs to be kept in mind is all apps are getting bigger, not just games. Some productivity apps can rival games in size. Also remember that the downloaded size is like a zip file. It gets bigger after installation.

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    One thing I have also noticed is that when u update apps from the app store, the apps become larger than they previously were...which is an issue if the space is only 8GB
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    Absolutely stunned by this. And Samsung is readying its software expansion with Tizen? Perhaps Samsung needs to adhere more closely to a no frills, basic Android approach because Samsung's software direction is having disconcerting consequences.

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    After all the heat they took last year with the s4, I was hoping for more. It's stupid to give users 8gigs of space...I don't want to move apps and crap to an SD card. Lets not forget, verizon still has to add the 5 amazon apps and 10 other bloat apps too...so im thinking 5 useable. I feel like Samsung is trying to ruin android for everyone... My X has 16 gigs with over 11 useable (only 3 bloat apps..thank god). Even on this phone, I barely have enough room to keep just some of the pictures I want. I have to delete games just to be able to take a picture sometimes. I hate having "cloud" pictures..not only does it use data but I must wait for every little picture to load and scroll through waiting until I find the one I'm looking for. Samsung should be ashamed for how crappy their products are becoming. I almost want to go back to the iPhone..Apple might be restrictive but at least it seems like their employees graduated high school. I want to beat the people responsible at Samsung. I know its just a phone but I had high hopes for this phone, esp with the note 3 having 32 standard. Stupid! Judging from most comments I've read, Samsung really dropped the ball on this phone (at least tech sites/forums). I think its either Apple or HTC (possibly x2 later this year) for me next. Or perhaps Samsung will surprise us and make a last minute change to 32/64..highly unlikely...that'd be too smart for them..obviously.

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    Don't forget to add the carrier bloatware too, thats what another 500MB - 1GB of crapware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shanghaichica View Post
    Well I agree and disagree with you on this. Personally I don't do well with 16GB of internal storage with android devices.
    I'm not saying there are people who won't need more, just that it's a special case, and one that's covered by the 32GB version, just like the iPhone, Nexus 5, and most other flagship phones. At least with this one you can add lots of media storage much cheaper than you can by upgrading your phone.

    Quote Originally Posted by shanghaichica View Post
    My S4 was unworkable because of this. It drove me to the iphone 5S because I was frustrated and need more internal storage.
    The base model of the iPhone 5S is also 16GB. The iPhone 5S has almost the exact same problem, but there's no way to add inexpensive storage for media. They charge $100 to go to 32GB and $200 to go to 64GB. I added 64GB of storage to my S4 for $50.

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfdriver97 View Post
    Something else that needs to be kept in mind is all apps are getting bigger, not just games. Some productivity apps can rival games in size. Also remember that the downloaded size is like a zip file. It gets bigger after installation.

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    I have ~120 apps installed on my phone and I have over 5GB of the 8GB of internal storage left. All those apps would have to double in size in the next year for it to be an issue with the S5. I don't think I'm that far off from an "average" user, either. I have mostly social media, some productivity and automation apps, regular media apps (Netflix, Pandora, etc.), a few games (most Angry Birds, Candy Crush, black jack, craps, solitaire) some customization (Nova, WidgetLocker, a few widgets) and some apps to keep a toddler busy for a few minutes. I've disabled, but not deleted, most of the Samsung, Google and Verizon bloatware. All those applications take up 2.74GB. What is it that I'm missing that all these people are using that takes up so much space, and why isn't the 32GB version a viable option for those that need more space?

    I'm not saying that more storage wouldn't be nice, and I'd probably pick that over an IP67 phone, but I also don't think it's this catastrophic failure like everyone is saying. I'm also not seeing any actual evidence that it will matter, just a bunch of vague assertions that 8GB isn't enough because "stuff is big."
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    So people don't like the 16 GB (8.5) with 128 GB expandable option. Guess that's why there's a 32 GB option--with yet another 128 GB expandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garublador View Post
    The base model of the iPhone 5S is also 16GB. The iPhone 5S has almost the exact same problem, but there's no way to add inexpensive storage for media. They charge $100 to go to 32GB and $200 to go to 64GB. I added 64GB of storage to my S4 for $50.
    Except you're forgetting that the problem is that half of the 16GB is taken by the system. I'm almost certain that the iPhone does not have this problem, because even on its desktops it only takes up around 5GB of space. Yes, 16GB is a bit on the skimpy side for any phone these days, but an 8GB phone that was meant to be a 16GB phone is unacceptable, with the option of an SD card or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boeingrules View Post
    Except you're forgetting that the problem is that half of the 16GB is taken by the system. I'm almost certain that the iPhone does not have this problem, because even on its desktops it only takes up around 5GB of space. Yes, 16GB is a bit on the skimpy side for any phone these days, but an 8GB phone that was meant to be a 16GB phone is unacceptable, with the option of an SD card or not.
    So 8GB is a small amount of storage for apps only, but 11GB for both apps and media is acceptable? I have an order of magnitude more than 3GB of media on my phone. I had to spend $50 to be able to do that with a Samsung device, but would have had to spend $200 to do it with an Apple device. I've already shown that you need less than 3GB to store pretty much everything but super large games or productivity apps (neither of which anyone has been able to show are commonly used). How is having 5GB of unused storage so much worse than having 8GB of unused storage?

    Storage devices have been advertised as total storage, not storage after an OS was installed for as long as storage devices have been sold (i.e. decades). Samsung isn't doing anything out of the ordinary by also advertising that way. Every other phone manufacturer, including Apple, does the same thing.
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