1. pappy53's Avatar
    Galaxy S5 Fingerprint Scanner Hacked, PayPal Payments At Risk | BGR

    Maybe it's a good thing that Verizon didn't allow Paypal use with the scanner.
    04-15-2014 10:47 PM
  2. Eric Ruiz1's Avatar
    I wouldn't worry about it too much. Unless someone is desperately set out to get your phone, nobody is gonna replicate your print

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    04-15-2014 11:24 PM
  3. ZiggSeVO's Avatar
    It wasn't hacked....
    They used a lifted print to unlock your phone...lol
    If they go through that much trouble to lift and replicate your print...I doubt they are after your phone...
    That report was stupid.. of course using a fingerprint of the finger used to unlock a phone would work...

    Disclaimer: I didn't read full article. Didn't want to lose brain cells

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    04-15-2014 11:40 PM
  4. msavic6's Avatar
    You can't be seriously worried about this. Someone has to take an extremely high resolution image of your fingerprint and then re create it out of wood glue. The chances of this happening to you is zero to none.

    If a person will go to these lengths to try to get into my phone, I will personally reward them by unlocking it myself and giving it to them.
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    04-15-2014 11:44 PM
  5. pappy53's Avatar
    They should have put the requirement of a password after so long. This is an extra security step on TouchID.


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    04-16-2014 05:07 AM
  6. msavic6's Avatar
    They should have put the requirement of a password after so long. This is an extra security step on TouchID.


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    There is a password after 5 failed attempts on the lockscreen. The place that is lacking a paid is in the PayPal app which gives you unlimited attempts.

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    04-16-2014 10:03 AM
  7. Sliver22's Avatar
    Long story short, it didn't really get hacked.. OP is just trying to justify his iPhone.

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    04-16-2014 10:04 AM
  8. pappy53's Avatar
    Long story short, it didn't really get hacked.. OP is just trying to justify his iPhone.

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    Long story short, it can be gotten into, just like an iPhone. The difference is that after a certain period of time, you still have to enter a password on the iPhone, whereas not on the S5. Apple does seem to have a better system.
    BTW, I don't need to justify my iPhone, as it serves my needs best at this point in time.
    04-16-2014 10:23 AM
  9. Citizen Coyote's Avatar
    People complained about the same thing when the iPhone 5S came out. Both phones can be fooled with a fake fingerprint (and in the S5's case, it was based off a cellphone photo of a fingerprint on the screen, so not exactly hi res). Personally I would not trust financial information to a fingerprint scanner like this on either phone. Use it as a convenient way to unlock the device and as a replacement for a PIN/code, but don't believe the security is any better than what's available on other phones.
    04-16-2014 10:27 AM
  10. Cobravision's Avatar
    All I leave on my screen are partials because that's how I use my phone. Who leaves nice, pristine, full prints on their screen? This is silly.
    04-16-2014 10:28 AM
  11. pappy53's Avatar
    People complained about the same thing when the iPhone 5S came out. Both phones can be fooled with a fake fingerprint (and in the S5's case, it was based off a cellphone photo of a fingerprint on the screen, so not exactly hi res). Personally I would not trust financial information to a fingerprint scanner like this on either phone. Use it as a convenient way to unlock the device and as a replacement for a PIN/code, but don't believe the security is any better than what's available on other phones.
    Agreed. Maybe that is why Apple restricts their TouchID. This is a copy and paste from a current iMore article:

    "Samsung allows third parties to hook into their fingerprint authenticator. So, as shown in the video, they can get to Paypal and your money. Apple currently restricts Touch ID to only your Apple account. So, worst case, if Touch ID is spoofed, all an attacker can really do is buy stuff off iTunes or the App Store, much of which would be locked to your account. That's much less of an incentive to spoof prints."
    04-16-2014 10:32 AM
  12. Fdmstng99's Avatar
    Guess the next article will have them saying they can chop your figure off and use that to get into your phone.
    04-16-2014 10:36 AM
  13. Sliver22's Avatar
    Long story short, it can be gotten into, just like an iPhone. The difference is that after a certain period of time, you still have to enter a password on the iPhone, whereas not on the S5. Apple does seem to have a better system.
    BTW, I don't need to justify my iPhone, as it serves my needs best at this point in time.
    Well considering you are commenting on multiple posts battling the s5 and promoting your 5s on an Android forum... It kinda seems like you are trying to justify it.

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    04-16-2014 11:10 AM
  14. pappy53's Avatar
    Well considering you are commenting on multiple posts battling the s5 and promoting your 5s on an Android forum... It kinda seems like you are trying to justify it.

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    Nope, just pointing out that Apple has better security on their TouchID.
    04-16-2014 11:13 AM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    Long story short, it can be gotten into, just like an iPhone. The difference is that after a certain period of time, you still have to enter a password on the iPhone, whereas not on the S5. Apple does seem to have a better system.
    BTW, I don't need to justify my iPhone, as it serves my needs best at this point in time.
    Nope, just pointing out that Apple has better security on their TouchID.
    I thought someone said it does do this on the S5 for when you unlock the phone.. Just like when unlocking the iPhone..

    It doesn't have it with the PayPal part. That is where it won't do the password prompt but it should.

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    04-16-2014 11:28 AM
  16. pappy53's Avatar
    I thought someone said it does do this on the S5 for when you unlock the phone.. Just like when unlocking the iPhone..

    It doesn't have it with the PayPal part. That is where it won't do the password prompt but it should.

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    I don't know firsthand, but that isn't what I'm reading. I hope that it is like the iPhone, for the sake of security. More copy and paste:

    Firstly, Samsung apparently allows unlimited attacks on their fingerprint sensor. You can try fingerprint after fingerprint and it will happily let you. Apple's Touch ID limits you to 5 unsuccessful attempts, then demands a passcode or password. If someone makes a perfect spoof immediately, that won't matter. If not, or if it doesn't register properly the first few times, it could help.

    Secondly, Samsung allows fingerprint authentication even after the Galaxy S5 has been rebooted or simply powered back on or re-charged. Apple's Touch ID requires passcode or password re-entry under those conditions.
    04-16-2014 11:43 AM
  17. AnnieVan's Avatar
    I just tried it on my GS5. After 5 attempts, it locked me out and asked for a password. I tried turning my phone off and then on again to bypass, but it asked me for the password. BTW, the backup password has to contain letters and numbers, it won't allow a numerical PIN as the backup.

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    04-16-2014 12:03 PM
  18. pappy53's Avatar
    I just tried it on my GS5. After 5 attempts, it locked me out and asked for a password. I tried turning my phone off and then on again to bypass, but it asked me for the password. BTW, the backup password has to contain letters and numbers, it won't allow a numerical PIN as the backup.

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    That is good to know. Thanks!
    04-16-2014 12:12 PM
  19. tech_head's Avatar
    Spoofing not "hacking" fingerprint scanners is nothing new.
    You see it in movies all the time.......
    It's a crude spoof. Fingerprint scanners are crude.
    Now if they also looked at the blood vessels in the finger......
    04-16-2014 12:35 PM
  20. Almeuit's Avatar
    I don't know firsthand, but that isn't what I'm reading. I hope that it is like the iPhone, for the sake of security. More copy and paste:

    Firstly, Samsung apparently allows unlimited attacks on their fingerprint sensor. You can try fingerprint after fingerprint and it will happily let you. Apple's Touch ID limits you to 5 unsuccessful attempts, then demands a passcode or password. If someone makes a perfect spoof immediately, that won't matter. If not, or if it doesn't register properly the first few times, it could help.

    Secondly, Samsung allows fingerprint authentication even after the Galaxy S5 has been rebooted or simply powered back on or re-charged. Apple's Touch ID requires passcode or password re-entry under those conditions.
    I just tried it on my GS5. After 5 attempts, it locked me out and asked for a password. I tried turning my phone off and then on again to bypass, but it asked me for the password. BTW, the backup password has to contain letters and numbers, it won't allow a numerical PIN as the backup.

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    At least it's confirmed now it's like apples touch ID. The only fail part is the PayPal section not adhering to this same restriction.

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    04-16-2014 12:39 PM
  21. pappy53's Avatar
    At least it's confirmed now it's like apples touch ID. The only fail part is the PayPal section not adhering to this same restriction.

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    Yeah, and that is good to know. It seems kind of scary on the Paypal part, as it seems that different developers would have access to your fingerprints. At least on Verizon, Paypal is not a concern, and I'm sure that they did that for the customer's benefit. /s
    04-16-2014 12:46 PM
  22. AnnieVan's Avatar
    Yeah, and that is good to know. It seems kind of scary on the Paypal part, as it seems that different developers would have access to your fingerprints. At least on Verizon, Paypal is not a concern, and I'm sure that they did that for the customer's benefit. /s
    I believe like with iPhone, the fingerprint is stored locally. So I don't think any developer has access to fingerprints through PayPal accounts.

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    04-16-2014 01:11 PM
  23. ILoveMyTowel's Avatar
    I feel like it would take far more effort to replicate someone's fingerprint than it is for someone to look over your shoulder as you're entering your pin number...
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    04-17-2014 07:49 AM
  24. Xzibit3's Avatar
    I feel like it would take far more effort to replicate someone's fingerprint than it is for someone to look over your shoulder as you're entering your pin number...
    My friend tried to replicate my fingerprint by getting a pencil and coloring in a spot on a sheet of paper, then I pushed my fingerprint it and it copied it, he tried to use it to unlock my phone and it didn't work, but it worked on his Iphone.
    04-17-2014 06:30 PM

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