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    Default Galaxy S5: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    My battery life is way lower than I expected, but when I brought it in to the Verizon store today, the manager tried to convince me that KitKat sucks and it is normal to get less than 12 hours of battery life on even low usage with android phones loaded with KitKat....which does not match up with what I've been reading.

    This is just the stock system, with no added loaders or crazy apps or widgets constantly running or updating stuff. I have wifi on, but GPS and Bluetooth are off and the screen is set to auto-brightness. I also have the background processes under Developer Settings limited to just 2.

    The past several days since I got it my phone has been down to < 10% battery after about 11 hours. This is almost all standby time in my pocket. Maybe a dozen text messages, 10-15 minutes on the phone and about half an hour to an hour surfing the web or checking emails, but that is it. All total, hardly more than an hour of basic use a day. Which, coming from my Razor Maxx which would last well over two days with such activity, seems really bad.

    So this morning when I unplugged the phone to kick off the day I made sure all apps were closed and I haven't used it all day other than to read a few texts and emails. So now, after 9.5 hours, I'm at 28% remaining. Better, but not by much. I've just looked under the battery setting and there are still no rogue apps listed there and practically all of the usage has come from Android OS & System (Screen has only used 3% for example.)

    I also just noticed that it is currently in Power Savings mode, but I don't think I had that set before. My guess is that the Verizon guy did it when he was looking at the phone. Which means that even on Power Savings mode the phone has used up 23% of the battery in the last 4 hours of standby-only use (I was at 51% when I brought in the phone during lunch.)

    I'm well within my two weeks so I can have Verizon swap it out, but that is such a headache I wanted to know what my expectations should be and if there is anything else I should look at trying first. Thanks!
    Last edited by NotJustAPhone; 04-27-2014 at 03:32 PM.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    I don't think it should be that bad. Yesterday after 12 hours I had 50% with minimal use.

    Post a screen shot of your battery and screen usage. Maybe that can help determine what's using your battery.

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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Hi, not really sure how to do that yet

    But basically I have a very linear line going straight as an arrow from 100% to 22% over 10h 22m 38s on battery (that's another 6% in the last 30 minutes of non-use). No dips at all, just a very steady decline with no drops.

    The usage for apps are showing as:

    Android OS: 34%
    Android System: 19%
    Google Services: 7%
    Screen: 3%
    Phone: 3%
    Google Search: 3%
    com.android.systemui: 2%
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    about 3 hours of just using PowerAmp, and screen on auto brightness i had 93% left. Airplane mode wasn't on either. What type of apps do you have?
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Press and hold the power button and home button for a full second for a screen shot. You will hear it take the shot and it will be stored in the screen shot folder.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    No real apps other than what comes stock with the Verizon phone, certainly nothing else running in the background.

    I can take screen shots just not sure how to get it uploaded to the forum yet since that doesn't appear to be an option with posting from the app.

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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    I use the phone about as much as you, and after 12 hours, I'm at 30%, plus I have bluetooth on a good 4 solid hours per day.
    I have all the *extras* off though. Like that smart stay, and that thing where you can hover your finger over the screen. There is a lot of *neat* things this phone has, but most aren't very practicable, and I just shut those settings to off.
    Here are my settings
    Wifi always on
    bluetooth always on
    Display brightness is set to 1/2 way on the slider and the auto adjust screen tone on
    Smart stay OFF
    Daydream OFF
    Touch key light duration 1.5 sec
    Increase touch sensitivity OFF
    finger scanner OFF
    Location on
    Lock Screen is Swipe (My phone is never away from me)
    Motions and gestures, EVERYTHING IS OFF
    Air View is OFF
    The only widget I have is a calendar widget. I believe the more widgets you have, the more your battery drains, but that's just a feeling.

    Having 30% left at 8:30pm after a normal day is ok with me
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Those are all very similar settings to mine other than I leave the BT off. I have a few of the motions and gestures on, but they shouldn't really be a factor if the phone is not used all day. Like you, the only widget I have is the stock calendar one. If I could go through the day until time to go to bed without having to plug it in I'd be fine. But when it's 4 pm and I'm still at work and my phone is beeping to let me know I am at 15% and then I'm down to 5% by the time I get home, that just feels off. That is 12 hours of max life on almost no usage before my phone needs to be recharged.

    I can try and go through all those settings and flip them off and see if there is any difference tomorrow.

    Yours surprises me as well though as being under performing. I've read a number of the articles referencing battery life and every one of them says drainage tests having the screen always on and the cpu under constant use either with all video or mixed video/browsing last anywhere from 8-10 hours depending on the article. And the couple articles I found referencing just normal real-world usage put at at 1.5-2 days of use.

    I do know that minimizing the number of background processes is supposed to help because by default there is no limitation and unless you close apps down they still hang around and can suck up power. But I have mine limited and it has made no difference.
    Last edited by Joshua Greenwald; 04-17-2014 at 09:04 PM.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    I don't know guys, don't think that's normal. Right now I'm at 70% battery. That's 14.5 hours unplugged. 90 mins screen time. Location on, wifi on, air wake on, auto sync facebook, gmail, weather widgets.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Abbott View Post
    I don't know guys, don't think that's normal. Right now I'm at 70% battery. That's 14.5 hours unplugged. 90 mins screen time. Location on, wifi on, air wake on, auto sync facebook, gmail, weather widgets.
    Ok, now you're just making me jealous. But that is more inline with what I was expecting to get.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Very, odd.
    I did a battery drain the other day, my day finished with 20hrs, had 4 1/2 hrs screen time, most of the time I was in a bad reception area. I would share the pic, but can't figure out how to send it through the app either!

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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Keep the S5 in Ultra Saving Mode when not in use or when only using phone calls and messages. Both those tasks can be done in that move.

    That doctrine really cuts down battery usage.

    Also, buy and install GSam Battery Monitor Pro. It will show exactly what is using your power. You can keep a large widget of it on your main home page to show the battery level and access GSam rapidly.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    I'll try out GSam and will keep an eye on it tomorrow and see what it says. Still, while I understand I can use the ultra low mode, if I plan on only using it lightly during the day and plugging it in every night, I should think I wouldn't have to do that.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Josh I am having the same battery problems as you. I've scoured through the phone disabling every thing recommended to disable, not using any widgets, Bluetooth off, location off. I have airplane mode on a large portion of the day and use wifi. Today was one of the better days I have seen with this phone. After 9 hours I was at 66% with 1 hour and 13 minutes of screen time. Something chewed through my battery.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Quote Originally Posted by edge4628 View Post
    Josh I am having the same battery problems as you. I've scoured through the phone disabling every thing recommended to disable, not using any widgets, Bluetooth off, location off. I have airplane mode on a large portion of the day and use wifi. Today was one of the better days I have seen with this phone. After 9 hours I was at 66% with 1 hour and 13 minutes of screen time. Something chewed through my battery.
    So sorry, I'm feeling your pain right now That's my next step for tomorrow, disable everything I can short of going into ultra power saver mode. I'll keep tweaking and playing with things, but I'm leaning towards wondering if I kind of got a lemon and having Verizon replace it next week if things don't markedly improve. I would even take 66% after 9 hours, but I don't think you should have to jump through hoops and hamstring yourself in order to achieve that.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Quote Originally Posted by sirmaru View Post
    Also, buy and install GSam Battery Monitor Pro. It will show exactly what is using your power. You can keep a large widget of it on your main home page to show the battery level and access GSam rapidly.
    Apparently with kitkat none of the battery tools have access to the battery usage without rooting. GSam specifically states that it doesn't work because of this.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Don't have a screen shot. But with moderate use, I was at 20 hours with 15% left. This is listening to music, milk radio, for about 3 hours straight. And some gaming.

    I think I had about 2 1/2 hours of screen time.

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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Greenwald View Post
    So sorry, I'm feeling your pain right now That's my next step for tomorrow, disable everything I can short of going into ultra power saver mode. I'll keep tweaking and playing with things, but I'm leaning towards wondering if I kind of got a lemon and having Verizon replace it next week if things don't markedly improve. I would even take 66% after 9 hours, but I don't think you should have to jump through hoops and hamstring yourself in order to achieve that.
    That's ultimately what I am feeling. The fact I have had to go through just about every part of the phone to get the battery to last through the evening, with moderate use, makes me think something is not right. I wouldn't imagine the phone would have such high ratings if everyone was having to go through disabling and shutting down features.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    I have been losing sleep over my S5. First day no problems, I was actually laughing quietly at finding the perfect phone. Then on day three the battery drained from 87%~4% overnight! Three things I have installed, removed, installed again and so on. First Go Power Manager, then 360 Anti-virus and finally the Shockingly expensive S-view case. Not sure exactly which it was but now the battery drain has stopped. I now have no AV, no Battery saver and no Protective case but a good battery! Let me know if you have any of the things listed and if it made a HUGE difference when you removed them ok. Good luck
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Something speciffic must be causing your power drain performance.

    I have the opposite story:

    I have my S5 7th day now, and battery is consistent and pretty amazing.
    Note: I'm running both Security 360, and Lookout protection softwares together, GPS on all the time, and either mobile data or Wifi on all the time(Never both in the same time)
    I also disabled more than few apps which i never use, such as my magazine and bunch of others. I did add many of my own choice apps, and run many apps updates.

    I did 36h moderate use twice already getting down to about 15%.

    This included shooting 2-3 4K videos, few standard HD videos, 50-60 photos. Viewing them all. Using moderate web browsing, mainly reading news, and playing music or chess game while on the train to and from work, or in the evenings. 5-6 few minutes phone calls. Installing bunch of apps, and customizing screens (over and over :-)

    On Wednesday morning after unplugging the phone from charger, I decided to push it to the end, and with such usage (minus taking any videos, but doing everything else mentioned above) After 36h battery was again at 16%. It was evening. I used phone to brows some more news online, and played with google Sky Map, and played more chess till it hit 9%.
    In the morning it was 7%. I Downloaded/read more news (CNN app), etc..After 49h, my battery was down to 5% !!!

    5% after 49h of light to moderate use !! I couldn't be more happy. I hope it lasts.
    Last edited by Milos1977; 04-18-2014 at 09:58 AM.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    I'm no heavy user, I consider myself a moderate one, no gaming, just check my tons of emails and once at home I see my Flipboard magazines and Google Pay News and obviously check my Android forums.

    With my Galaxy S4 before the Kit Kat update I was getting constantly 4 hours of Screen On Time, after the Kit kat update, immediately, that same day that it took the update, Android System and Android OS went up and never went back down after almost 11 months constant. It resulted on a screen on time reduction I was barely getting little more than 3 hours. The S5 right out of the box was giving me 4.5 hours of screen time, even with the same Android OS and Android System battery usage, and after a couple of adjustments and removal of unneeded apps and running services I've been able to get since last week 5+ hours of screen time. An average of over 2 hours more than the S4 with Kit Kat, so if we find why the Kit Kat is using so much Android OS and Android System and fix it or modify it, we can get by the logic described above 1 hour more of screen time. In my case an awesome 6+ screen on time.

    Here is my stats for last night, used my Gear 2 for hours, so bluetooth was turned on, also it wasn't a normal day, as I didn't work, so I was all day at home using the phone constantly.

    Galaxy S5: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?-screenshot_2014-04-17-22-30-56.png

    Galaxy S5: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?-screenshot_2014-04-17-22-31-01.png
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    So far things do not look much better for me today. Started the day off making sure all apps were closed, that I'm on power savings mode (though not ultra) and I've turned off all the non essential features. After an hour and a half of total non-use, it has still dropped off 12%, which should still put me down to about 5-10% or so left after twelve hours assuming I continue to not touch it. Tonight I'm going to go through and make sure any apps that did NOT come withe the phone are uninstalled and see if that makes a difference on Saturday. Though like I said at the top, when I look at my battery usage statistics, there is nothing using any power but the standard Android stuff.

    @Paul - Yeah, I don't have any of those things you mentioned. No case, no power managers, and no antivirus software.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Run a test on Ultra Power Savings Mode and see if you get any improvements. I charged my S5 last night and GSam shows I have used 15% in 12 hours and 35 minutes. I've been using it extensively this morning but kept in Ultra Power Savings Mode when not being used.

    My Usage Monitor shows Android OS using 85% and the screen 7%. The UPSM screen shows 85% should last 10.6 days. It also shuts the screen in 5 seconds versus my setting in normal mode of 5 minutes.

    Also, make sure your Google Drive will only sync in wireless mode. I have also not made or received any phone calls with the unit.

    Finally, go to the Samsung App site and go to the screen where you can locate your mobile. In Ultra Power Savings Mode it should show as offline and in normal mode it show as online.
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    Here are my numbers so far today. I haven't used the phone much just some web surfing. I decided to try airplane mode off today just to change things up.
    What do you guys think? Still draining to fast? Its been so inconsistent I'm not sure what to expect when its working.
    Galaxy S5: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?-screenshot_2014-04-18-12-54-01.jpg Galaxy S5: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?-screenshot_2014-04-18-12-54-07.jpg
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    Default Re: What battery life should I expect with low to moderate use?

    @edge - With a screen time of an hour and a total on time of over seven hours and still about 80% of your battery available - I would personally be more than happy with those numbers....but everything is relative I suppose. Still, you'd like to have some moderate predictability.
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