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    Question Trusted Credentials - What happens if they are all erased?

    I noted that my phone comes with a list of Trusted Credentials.

    Back when I had my phone messed up and it looked like a Factory Reset was in order, I thought about erasing all of those to see what effect it would have.

    Rather than do that exercise, I am asking what the downside would be?

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    Default Re: Trusted Credentials - What happens if they are all erased?

    Nothing. I do it all the time to clear the lock screen on my phone after using FoxFi.
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    I wiped mine when I was configuring OpenVPN and it somehow disabled fingerprint unlock. Wiping the creds reset it.
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    Knowing that now, means that when I first messed up my lockscreen, I still knew the pincode.

    Clearing the Trusted Credentials then would have allowed me to go back to my Pattern Swipe w/o rebooting/erasing the phone?
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    Somebody smarter than I needs to help the millions who use Android and make a dollar teaching what we can and can't disable in Android so malfunctions don't happen like it just did when I disabled everything. Now my Network is not found. Can't use internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFclipse View Post
    Nothing. I do it all the time to clear the lock screen on my phone after using FoxFi.
    Not true. I just disabled them all and now "no network can be found" It's terribly sad that in a world of millions of people NOT ONE website dedicated to teaching the insides and outs of this android device so many use. Clearly there are companies that are incorporated into these so called "Trusted credentials" that we should not have to put up with. For anyone aware of what major corporations are doing today, you know this is a new world order agenda to gather personal information on everyone and I'm getting sick and tired of arguing this crap with trolls who defend this communist establishment worldwide. Android is very much a part of gathering your personal information, storing it in a super computer, later to be used against you when the mark of the beast is enforced. These CEO's need to be stopped and let satan figure out another way to capture the minds of we the people. These CEO's need their teeth kicked in for playing us as if we arent aware. We've always been aware but never stood against it, which makes us guilty so if you want to help the future generation and please God for our soul sake, speak up all you apathetic doers of nothing and suffer the same persecution I receive for writing this type of comment which is the truth. These scum corporations have NO RIGHT monitoring our every move on products we buy for OUR OWN PERSONAL USE! Burn in hell all of those who support this scum satanic infiltration of our sovereign rights to be private.
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    Wow! You are all right. "They" massively mine our data, and "They" store that data. Questions are: (1) who are "They"? and (2) what are "They" doing with all that data? Quick answers...everyone and everything. Companies, corporations, governments (both shadowy and legitimate) used to sell to us, to categorize us...take our money, take our freedoms and privacies.
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    Here is the REALLY sad thing... I do not even know half of what these dang features on my phone mean. I could have my phone set to something that it should not be set to, that I do not even know about. That scares me. I am not a stupid person but I am also not tech savvy in the least. All as I do with this phone is email every now and then, text a lot, talk on the phone and access the internet. That is it. I feel like this stuff is way more technical than it needs to be. Why can't these companies just have a phone that is a lot more user friendly for people who are not as smart as the kids these days, and these techy types of people. I have tried to learn a lot of this stuff and there is just way too much to follow and understand. I am highly misguided and wish that there were a website for people like myself (as stupid as it sounds), who is a smart person but just not when it comes to technical gadgets that a person has to have on a daily basis. I have no idea how I lived without this thing in the 80's without breaking down on the freeway and having nobody to call. Or, how I got through school without it either. However, I have no idea what half of these features even mean. Whenever I give it to a kid who can help me out with it, they simply try to look through all of my stuff... I then have to rip it out of their hands immediately. I do know that I try to set EVERYTHING to private. I am pretty convinced that there is never going to be enough privacy, or there is something that I missed setting to private due to there being so many things that a person has to set to private. This thing is on the verge of making me paranoid. ;-) Why can't there be a simple online class/instructions for each brand of phone out there (Iphone, Smartphone, etc...) that shows a person how to use every single feature, or at least shows what it does or is used for. I am sure that I am speaking for many of us middle aged and older people out there too. This stuff can really get to be a difficult mess if you aren't careful. Well... Even if you are careful. I actually know of people who will not even have a cellphone due to the difficulty they have just using a computer. It's such a difficult mess for them. Unfortunately, they are some of the people who need a cellphone the most too. It would be nice if they made a phone with huge buttons that you could read too. That way our older generation can use these too. Just my rant for the day. Thank you for those of you who actually read this. I did not mean for it to become a novel.
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    Read this:

    bluebox(.)com/blog/technical/questioning-the-chain-of-trust-investigations-into-the-root-certificates-on-mobile-devices/
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    On a Pantech Discover there is an "Easy Experience" mode that I used when i changed from the Pantech Breeze flip phone. It was easy and intuitive while I went through the "Standard experience" mode to understand it and the Apps (applications) & settings.
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    This setting lists the certificate authority (CA) companies that this device regards as "trusted" for purposes of verifying the identity of a server, and allows you to mark one or more authorities as not trusted.

    On some devices this menu item may be called "View security certificates" instead.
    Background information

    Certificate authorities are companies that issue secure certificates verifying the identity of web servers and other servers (such as mail servers).

    When accessing a web server or mail server over a secure connection such as HTTPS (note the "S") not only does all communication need to be encrypted, but the identify of the server needs to be verified by checking that the site has a certificate provided by a trustworthy certificate authority. The certificate shows that the certificate authority has verified the authenticity of the server. For example, if the server claims to be "example.com", the certificate authority may issue a certificate assuring that they have checked that the certificate holder is the genuine owner of the domain "example.com". For secure connections, this prevents that name being able to be hijacked by a rogue server posing as the genuine server.

    Certificates are generated and verified using a cryptographic process which makes it possible for the server to prove its identity without revealing the secret key used to create this proof of identity. This prevents other servers being able to provide the same proof.
    What the list of trusted credentials is for

    Devices and browsers contain a pre-defined set of trusted certificate authorities, along with the public keys required to verify each company's certificates. Upon encountering a certificate signed by a certificate authority in its trusted list, your device will trust that certificate.

    If your device encounters a certificate signed by an untrusted company, you will be alerted with a warning. The warning means that the site's identity could not be properly verified by a trusted authority, and therefore that you can't be confident that it is not a rogue site impersonating the genuine site.

    In cases where a certificate authority is later found to be untrustworthy or its systems have been broken into, you may remove it from this list.
    When these settings would need to be modified

    You should not normally have reason to modify this list yourself.

    If a certificate authority is ever revealed to be untrustworthy or has their systems compromised, it tends to become fairly big news; these are the trusted companies that the internet relies upon for the basis of verifying authentication and any loss of trust in these companies is fairly important news for browser makers. Your browsers and devices may receive security updates to remove those companies from their trusted credentials list. If not, or you don't want to wait, or you have personal reasons not to trust a particular company, you can remove them yourself.
    What the sections mean
    System

    The system tab contains the list of trusted certificate authorities that came with your device.
    User

    The user tab contains the list of trusted certificate authorities that you, or an app you have been using, has installed on your device. Often, this list will be empty if you have had no reason to install an additional CA certificate on your device that wasn't originally provided with the device.

    User-installed certificate authorities may be used if, for example, you need to make a secure connection to a corporate server and you need to verify its authenticity with a certificate signed by a server within your company.

    Your corporate network may direct you to manually install them as a trusted certificate authority, or they may give you an app to add this automatically.
    Security implications

    Adding a new certificate to your list of trusted credentials potentially gives the owner of that certificate the ability to impersonate any secure server such as a secure website or email server, defeating the verification mechanism of SSL. Only install new credentials from sources that you trust.
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    No sorry I didn't mean to submit a blog that wasn't my own. But here are my words :My certificate's have been accidentally erased from my ZTE LITE, and I got chastised for it. Please help me figure out how to put them properly back?
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    So so very true ,we do need someone who can step up and help us the people who are willing to learn to fight for ourselves against the system,its like just about anybody who does know about phones and all there ware is for the other side and none for our side. There has to be a person of God that knows how to at least begin to teach us.
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    Hej,
    When I deactivated all the credentials, my notifications stopped to work. As well as updating apps from the Play Store and Google stuff...

    I just activated them all again and the phone is working as it should again..

    Greetz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soothingaroma View Post
    Here is the REALLY sad thing... I do not even know half of what these dang features on my phone mean. I could have my phone set to something that it should not be set to, that I do not even know about. That scares me. I am not a stupid person but I am also not tech savvy in the least. All as I do with this phone is email every now and then, text a lot, talk on the phone and access the internet. That is it. I feel like this stuff is way more technical than it needs to be. Why can't these companies just have a phone that is a lot more user friendly for people who are not as smart as the kids these days, and these techy types of people. I have tried to learn a lot of this stuff and there is just way too much to follow and understand. I am highly misguided and wish that there were a website for people like myself (as stupid as it sounds), who is a smart person but just not when it comes to technical gadgets that a person has to have on a daily basis. I have no idea how I lived without this thing in the 80's without breaking down on the freeway and having nobody to call. Or, how I got through school without it either. However, I have no idea what half of these features even mean. Whenever I give it to a kid who can help me out with it, they simply try to look through all of my stuff... I then have to rip it out of their hands immediately. I do know that I try to set EVERYTHING to private. I am pretty convinced that there is never going to be enough privacy, or there is something that I missed setting to private due to there being so many things that a person has to set to private. This thing is on the verge of making me paranoid. ;-) Why can't there be a simple online class/instructions for each brand of phone out there (Iphone, Smartphone, etc...) that shows a person how to use every single feature, or at least shows what it does or is used for. I am sure that I am speaking for many of us middle aged and older people out there too. This stuff can really get to be a difficult mess if you aren't careful. Well... Even if you are careful. I actually know of people who will not even have a cellphone due to the difficulty they have just using a computer. It's such a difficult mess for them. Unfortunately, they are some of the people who need a cellphone the most too. It would be nice if they made a phone with huge buttons that you could read too. That way our older generation can use these too. Just my rant for the day. Thank you for those of you who actually read this. I did not mean for it to become a novel.
    I can empathise with you. There is an awful lot to smartphones and there really is no single site that goes through all the basics. I myself am reasonably tech savvy but it took me ages to properly work my phone. I have played around a lot with my phone and tried stacks of different apps. But really, how many people are going to do that?

    I will say this. Anytime I had an issue, I searched on forums and Googled it and problems were solved quickly.

    After years of being on Android, I only just now discovered 2 factor authentication. Awesome security feature, but in my case, I only discovered it by Googling Android security.

    Unfortunately there is no single site that will take you through everything. It's a case of looking it up yourself. And trying different apps, settings and configurations yourself.
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    Mark of the beast you say... I'd before worry about the Android OS, I would start with a priest if you are Catholic, or a knowledgeable protestant it better understand the emphasis of Christianity, here is a hint.. Hang around in these books - Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProSecond Amendment View Post
    Not true. I just disabled them all and now "no network can be found" It's terribly sad that in a world of millions of people NOT ONE website dedicated to teaching the insides and outs of this android device so many use. Clearly there are companies that are incorporated into these so called "Trusted credentials" that we should not have to put up with. For anyone aware of what major corporations are doing today, you know this is a new world order agenda to gather personal information on everyone and I'm getting sick and tired of arguing this crap with trolls who defend this communist establishment worldwide. Android is very much a part of gathering your personal information, storing it in a super computer, later to be used against you when the mark of the beast is enforced. These CEO's need to be stopped and let satan figure out another way to capture the minds of we the people. These CEO's need their teeth kicked in for playing us as if we arent aware. We've always been aware but never stood against it, which makes us guilty so if you want to help the future generation and please God for our soul sake, speak up all you apathetic doers of nothing and suffer the same persecution I receive for writing this type of comment which is the truth. These scum corporations have NO RIGHT monitoring our every move on products we buy for OUR OWN PERSONAL USE! Burn in hell all of those who support this scum satanic infiltration of our sovereign rights to be private.
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    I am so disgusted with android @ this point. I cannot even find a clear answer. WTF. "TRUSTED CREDENTIALS".
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    SCUM CEO's = ALLUMINATI. Seriously, look it up. We're screwed.
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    SORRY, New World Order is now "The Globalists" aka, HILLARY CLINTON. TRUE. do your research and you'll be informed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soothingaroma View Post
    Here is the REALLY sad thing... I do not even know half of what these dang features on my phone mean. I could have my phone set to something that it should not be set to, that I do not even know about. That scares me. I am not a stupid person but I am also not tech savvy in the least. All as I do with this phone is email every now and then, text a lot, talk on the phone and access the internet. That is it. I feel like this stuff is way more technical than it needs to be. Why can't these companies just have a phone that is a lot more user friendly for people who are not as smart as the kids these days, and these techy types of people. I have tried to learn a lot of this stuff and there is just way too much to follow and understand. I am highly misguided and wish that there were a website for people like myself (as stupid as it sounds), who is a smart person but just not when it comes to technical gadgets that a person has to have on a daily basis. I have no idea how I lived without this thing in the 80's without breaking down on the freeway and having nobody to call. Or, how I got through school without it either. However, I have no idea what half of these features even mean. Whenever I give it to a kid who can help me out with it, they simply try to look through all of my stuff... I then have to rip it out of their hands immediately. I do know that I try to set EVERYTHING to private. I am pretty convinced that there is never going to be enough privacy, or there is something that I missed setting to private due to there being so many things that a person has to set to private. This thing is on the verge of making me paranoid. ;-) Why can't there be a simple online class/instructions for each brand of phone out there (Iphone, Smartphone, etc...) that shows a person how to use every single feature, or at least shows what it does or is used for. I am sure that I am speaking for many of us middle aged and older people out there too. This stuff can really get to be a difficult mess if you aren't careful. Well... Even if you are careful. I actually know of people who will not even have a cellphone due to the difficulty they have just using a computer. It's such a difficult mess for them. Unfortunately, they are some of the people who need a cellphone the most too. It would be nice if they made a phone with huge buttons that you could read too. That way our older generation can use these too. Just my rant for the day. Thank you for those of you who actually read this. I did not mean for it to become a novel.
    I am 55 y.o. I got my first smartphone about four years ago. It was a Samsung Galaxy S3. Looking back, that was a pretty sophisticated smartphone for a newcomer to these devices. Shortly after delving into that phone, but for hours on end and out of my obsession with, what is basically acomputer with phone and international communication capacities with persons from all over the world in real time. Than, I knew that this invention was going to change the world. At the time, I thought this was going to result in a powerful advancement in the positive connection between people, both on the political level and also that it would generate unity, plus a great sense that we were all inhabitants of this beautiful earth that we shared.

    I thought that there would be a collective elevation in global consciousness and that people would finally really come together to realize our collective concerns. I thought that the coming changes would be revolutionary as we recognized our commonality. Then we would overthrow the brutal regimes of the world, like China.

    Alot of these thoughts and feelings came from the recent Arab Spring - which for a brief moment gave me the hope that the People of of the earth, or "the masses," if you will, would push back to restore democracy and democratic ideals back to the countries of the world. I thought that the Arab Spring might catch and spread like a wildfire back to the rest of the world and maybe even to the US so We took back the power that had been systematically stripped over the decades. But, alas the Arab Spring was crushed. It was likely just another cynical maneuver to oust leaders the fascist elite and US govt . decided were done, and all of those shenanigans, ad nauseum.

    I actually really thought that this amazing mobile communication device/computer would enable/empower the people into galvanize against the universal oppressors, finally.

    I thought all of this because, at that time, I thought that people, in general, were inherently good; that they sought to progress if given the chance by nature. If given the means and opportunity the "people" would seek to the betterment of mankind as a whole.

    When I first saw the Google busses come to my city, I excitedly thought profound positive change was to come. These busses symbolized, so I thought, the coming social advances in the concepts of community and community building. Exciting new concepts, like community based ride shares entered into my town with Lyft, Sidecar and so forth. Small, lean new startups, like Republic Mobilephone were offering the new business model with fewer employees - as they were lean w little overhead and prices that beat out the giant monster, greedy corporate hegemony of ATT, Verizon, et al. These new socially conscious companies would surely out compete the giants, bringing back small business by wresting the power away from the Corporations. The power could shift back to the people! This couldn't come sooner, I thought with a renewed sense of hope!

    My idea was that the new technology would bring very good things. That it would restore balance and bring the country back to the representative govt it was intended -as the people were empowered by the new phones and the tech revolution that was exploding in San Francisco.

    San Francisco - the one city that was the cutting edge of everything in the world, or at least in the US; the avant of everything that I considered progressive and good. Things that were true to my ideals - like freedom of expression, tolerance, educational and spiritual enlightenment and all knowledge.. It was the cutting edge for the advancement of philosophy, literature and the arts. San Francisco was the home of the gay movement, the women's liberation movement, the Black Panthers, etc..

    Boy, was I wrong. The mobile phone or the "smartphone" w all of its concomitant technologies was just used against humanity - and for nefarious data gathering purposes that resulted in the absolute destruction of personal liberty, social freedom and personal privacy. Its been deployed to track, monitor, persecute and even, in my opinion finally destroy the the individual by stripping him or her of innate "humanity" or "personhood," if you will.

    This phone along w the technology rapidly reduced the "human being" into a "thing" and to "use value".

    Humanity just crashed hard, while our political process usurped by the govt and the corporate, techno overlords in a deep marriage against the civilian population - just within the last four years, brutally force fed all of us the predestined techno-fascist future they envisioned eons ago. (And while we were sleeping and fighting their wars).

    The rich are even richer, while the rest sorely struggle just to barely make it, at all. While the youthful tech-elite workers enjoy their brief bask in their special sun of heightened status and wealth, the globalist agenda inevitably will cream them too. Their jobs are already in the crosshairs of the globalists agenda in which Obama recently signed off the H1 work visa for non citizen foreigners, who gladly accept half of American grade wages, to replace citizens for cheaper labor. We had "outsourcing" in which our jobs went overseas to cheaper labor. This is "in-sourcing," in which now they just come in and take your job right from you. The American tech worker has to train the Pakistani who replaced him. This actually happened at Disney Corporation already. The US is being reduced to another tortured third world Brazilian Favella..

    Then those now wining and dining elite techie workers will later join the welfare line along w the rest of us discarded to the useless scrapheap of all work that is no longer valued or needed. I hope some of them look pretty chagrined by then for all of their self satisfied snobbery towards their less fortunate fellows...

    I've not more to say, but that the whole thing has been a terrible disapointment. I was very naive. Everything that could have been for the greater good just went right to the rich - do not pass go.

    The "People" as it turned out are abysmally selfish and ignorant. They showed themselves as petty and nasty; reducing themselves to tearing each other apart for the few crumbs scattered about before them by the Zueckerbergs and Schmidt's of this day.

    People proved to be mean, more selfish and apolitical then ever. I observed that "People" tend towards lashing out at eachother, rather than recogniing their common oppressor and uniting in their best interests. The great economic demise, that really took off in 2008 was only greased by people's indifference and lassitude both politically and towards one another.

    I am so depressed about how it's all turned out. These phones are now our enemy. Because they are the sheer strength and power behind the State and the Oligarchic chokehold of control. We are worse off than ever before! These phones are the death knell of democracy. Of humanity, even. And the death of my once beloved city. This place was my heart's home for 53 years. This San Francisco.

    I left my heart in San Francisco, not because I visited and left her. But for that sweet magical city that I loved, died. Technology came and was the bane. Not the hope for humanity, that I once imagined.

    Now, mostly I feel afraid when I use my phone. I only really like listening to music, now on my ZTE PRO MAX. I know that cannot hurt me too much. But, yeah, we're all pretty much toast - since pretty much no one really gives a ****. And then they happily sold the next guy down the river...

    Only God can do what we cannot seem to do for ourselves. Which is, to think and act for ourselves as a collective - that is with all of our best interests at heart. It is all about heart. Whether or not a person has heart is what is important. Most people are without heart nor do they possess character - they are not worth mentioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProSecond Amendment View Post
    Not true. I just disabled them all and now "no network can be found" It's terribly sad that in a world of millions of people NOT ONE website dedicated to teaching the insides and outs of this android device so many use. Clearly there are companies that are incorporated into these so called "Trusted credentials" that we should not have to put up with. For anyone aware of what major corporations are doing today, you know this is a new world order agenda to gather personal information on everyone and I'm getting sick and tired of arguing this crap with trolls who defend this communist establishment worldwide. Android is very much a part of gathering your personal information, storing it in a super computer, later to be used against you when the mark of the beast is enforced. These CEO's need to be stopped and let satan figure out another way to capture the minds of we the people. These CEO's need their teeth kicked in for playing us as if we arent aware. We've always been aware but never stood against it, which makes us guilty so if you want to help the future generation and please God for our soul sake, speak up all you apathetic doers of nothing and suffer the same persecution I receive for writing this type of comment which is the truth. These scum corporations have NO RIGHT monitoring our every move on products we buy for OUR OWN PERSONAL USE! Burn in hell all of those who support this scum satanic infiltration of our sovereign rights to be private.
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    You speak the truth.
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    Just new sorry. DIDN'T mean to repost your work. WAs only tryin to say you are write in a reply

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