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    Default G3 is battery champ, beating even the S5

    LG G3 vs. Galaxy S5 vs. HTC One M8 vs. iPhone 5S vs. Xperia Z2: G3's Battery Life Trumps All In Comparison Test : Technology : Design & Trend

    Pretty impressive with all those pixels to push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychDoc View Post
    LG G3 vs. Galaxy S5 vs. HTC One M8 vs. iPhone 5S vs. Xperia Z2: G3's Battery Life Trumps All In Comparison Test : Technology : Design & Trend

    Pretty impressive with all those pixels to push.

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    Default Re: G3 is battery champ, beating even the S5

    It also has a larger display, but a bigger battery. Either way, they're both very impressive. I know I wouldn't kill the battery on either phone in one day.
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    Default Re: G3 is battery champ, beating even the S5

    Here is my s5 battery results in the current cycle:

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    I don't use the s5 that much since most of the time I am home and using my landline phones.

    However, the battery lasting NINE DAYS and still over 30% left is pretty good. I use Ultra Power Savings Mode when not in use by using TWO fingers to down sweep from the top.

    If one divides the Screen Time of 68 minutes by the Screen Percentage of 6%, one gets the Active Time of 18 hours and 52 minutes so far. However, I won't recharge until the battery is down to 15% so the Active Time will be higher.

    Does the LG G3 even have Ultra Power Savings Mode available?
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    Default Re: G3 is battery champ, beating even the S5

    Quote Originally Posted by sirmaru View Post
    Here is my s5 battery results in the current cycle:

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    I don't use the s5 that much since most of the time I am home and using my landline phones.

    However, the battery lasting NINE DAYS and still over 30% left is pretty good. I use Ultra Power Savings Mode when not in use by using TWO fingers to down sweep from the top.

    If one divides the Screen Time of 68 minutes by the Screen Percentage of 6%, one gets the Active Time of 18 hours and 52 minutes so far. However, I won't recharge until the battery is down to 15% so the Active Time will be higher.
    Are you saying it would get 19 hours of screen time? Highly unlikely. I'd say 9-10 max if you have it on low brightness, and even that seems like a stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychDoc View Post
    LG G3 vs. Galaxy S5 vs. HTC One M8 vs. iPhone 5S vs. Xperia Z2: G3's Battery Life Trumps All In Comparison Test : Technology : Design & Trend

    Pretty impressive with all those pixels to push.

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    PhoneArena redacted its G Flex battery numbers because they were out of line sadly, that's about the only phone that could beat the G3 at that level. Also it sounds like nobody is getting 8hr average screen time on their S5....? Certainly nothing crazy like 10hrs of browsing on a single charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    Are you saying it would get 19 hours of screen time? Highly unlikely. I'd say 9-10 max if you have it on low brightness, and even that seems like a stretch.

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    Plausible in a sense but what can the phone do in UPS mode? After all if the G Flex was reviewed to last 14, 16, up to 20 hours playing video files....I think I can make mine do 20 if used exclusively as an ebook reader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    Are you saying it would get 19 hours of screen time? Highly unlikely. I'd say 9-10 max if you have it on low brightness, and even that seems like a stretch.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4 running SlimKat 4.4.2
    No, total Active Time. My maximum Screen Time has been 4 hours and 23 minutes. Total Active Time is calculated by dividing Screen Time by Screen Percentage of Use. My maximum Total Active Time has been up to 22 hours and 40 minutes.

    The Battery uses Total Active Time on a variety of uses, not just Screen Time.

    However, I posted this screen shot to show that, using UPSM, my battery lasted over NINE DAYS before a recharge was necessary. Phone calls and Messaging are fully active in UPSM. In effect it becomes a Dumb Phone in that Mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirmaru View Post
    Here is my s5 battery results in the current cycle:

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    I don't use the s5 that much since most of the time I am home and using my landline phones.

    However, the battery lasting NINE DAYS and still over 30% left is pretty good. I use Ultra Power Savings Mode when not in use by using TWO fingers to down sweep from the top.

    If one divides the Screen Time of 68 minutes by the Screen Percentage of 6%, one gets the Active Time of 18 hours and 52 minutes so far. However, I won't recharge until the battery is down to 15% so the Active Time will be higher.

    Does the LG G3 even have Ultra Power Savings Mode available?
    You can't honestly compare you keeping your phone in ultra power saving mode 24/7 to normal use of another phone. It isn't typical use as most people get smart phones to use them as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Jackson View Post
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    Unnecessary heading for small differences by phonearena. There are lot of posts on that website where people are referring to gsmarena test results. Not sure between phonearena and gsmarena who is good. Phonearena makes G3 looks better in battery tests. Gsmarena makes S5 looks good in battery tests. At 50% brightness G3 is very dim compared to S5.
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    I figure the max you can really get in the real world would 10 hours of screen time. That would be 10%/hour of on screen time. Unless you can prove me wrong. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by PainFX View Post
    I figure the max you can really get in the real world would 10 hours of screen time. That would be 10%/hour of on screen time. Unless you can prove me wrong. :P
    That matches with web browsing test results.

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    They are pretty competitive except gsmarena tested g3 with production unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustum View Post
    That matches with web browsing test results.

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    They are pretty competitive except gsmarena tested g3 with production unit.
    I don't like the way they do their benchmarks. No way people would ever get 9:36 in a real world test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    I don't like the way they do their benchmarks. No way people would ever get 9:36 in a real world test.

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    If I just web browse and lightly watch youtube, I can get 10% of battery life per hour. So near 10 hour is plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almeuit View Post
    You can't honestly compare you keeping your phone in ultra power saving mode 24/7 to normal use of another phone. It isn't typical use as most people get smart phones to use them as such.

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    What is "normal" use of a smart phone? My grandkids only play games and text on their smart phones. My son is on the road all the time and carries three smart phones, two of which are always powered down. He only makes phone calls with it.

    Some folks only own a smart phone and surf the net with it. I mainly use my desktop most of the day and only use my smart phone as a database for my car phone and to read eBooks while waiting in offices. Everyone has their own custom use of smart phones the same way they have their own custom use of TV's, PC's and Home Networks.

    If someone doesn't care about leaving the phone open for calls and messages, one can even use Blocking Mode as one uses two fingers to down sweep from the top. If one is just using it to play games, that would also extend battery life immensely.

    I've seen folks complain about rapid draining of their batteries on this Forum. UPSM and Blocking Mode should be considered as options for those folks. I doubt if most folks use all the dozens of apps and features every minute of every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirmaru View Post
    What is "normal" use of a smart phone? My grandkids only play games and text on their smart phones. My son is on the road all the time and carries three smart phones, two of which are always powered down. He only makes phone calls with it.

    Some folks only own a smart phone and surf the net with it. I mainly use my desktop most of the day and only use my smart phone as a database for my car phone and to read eBooks while waiting in offices. Everyone has their own custom use of smart phones the same way they have their own custom use of TV's, PC's and Home Networks.

    If someone doesn't care about leaving the phone open for calls and messages, one can even use Blocking Mode as one uses two fingers to down sweep from the top. If one is just using it to play games, that would also extend battery life immensely.

    I've seen folks complain about rapid draining of their batteries on this Forum. UPSM and Blocking Mode should be considered as options for those folks. I doubt if most folks use all the dozens of apps and features every minute of every day.
    Normal for smartphones? Simple... Majority of people use it for social media, Web, music, etc. That I can say safely is the normal use of most smartphones.

    But again you can't compare your power saver life to a normal usage comparison... That's like comparing someone with a stock battery and someone with a zero lemon case on.. It isn't the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustum View Post
    That matches with web browsing test results.

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    They are pretty competitive except gsmarena tested g3 with production unit.
    LOL

    http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g-flex-battery-life-test/

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    I don't like the way they do their benchmarks. No way people would ever get 9:36 in a real world test.

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    UJ.......remember?

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    And that's with Opera browser, which averages 40% of all power used! A real battery sucking browser...to use the same calculation as SIRMARU above, I get over 36.4 hours theoretical screen active time. (590min 27% usage)

    I am very much interested in the next generation P-OLED if it retains this ludicrous efficiency. My only complaint is the minimum brightness is actually too bright at night, and I usually only need 50%-75% in broad daylight. Hoping Samsung's flexible screen also runs on fairy tears and sunlight too so we can all be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relgoshan View Post
    LOL

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    And that's with Opera browser, which averages 40% of all power used! A real battery sucking browser...to use the same calculation as SIRMARU above, I get over 36.4 hours theoretical screen active time. (590min 27% usage)

    I am very much interested in the next generation P-OLED if it retains this ludicrous efficiency. My only complaint is the minimum brightness is actually too bright at night, and I usually only need 50%-75% in broad daylight. Hoping Samsung's flexible screen also runs on fairy tears and sunlight too so we can all be happy.
    Is this screen from galaxy s5? LG G flex has abnormal video playback time compared to other numbers. S5 is very bright at default (50%) brightness. G3 is not that great at default brightness based on gsmarena charts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustum View Post
    Is this screen from galaxy s5? LG G flex has abnormal video playback time compared to other numbers. S5 is very bright at default (50%) brightness. G3 is not that great at default brightness based on gsmarena charts.
    That's the G3.

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    What is Normal Use?

    It is how you use the phone on any given day.

    I have gone for a week at a time with very few hours of screen time, battery life was 5 days that time.

    Then yesterday, it rained all day long and I sat in the work truck with nothing to do.
    Out came the S5 and it was all 6 or 7 hours of screen time reading news, watching videos, and the latest fumbles of our executive branch (oops, can't talk more on that), but the point is, heavy use will shorten battery life.

    I started out with 85% at 5 AM and by 3 PM was down to about 23% or so.

    even so, that is good battery life IMO.

    Normal is how "you define it", there is no other such thing as "normal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustum View Post
    Is this screen from galaxy s5? LG G flex has abnormal video playback time compared to other numbers. S5 is very bright at default (50%) brightness. G3 is not that great at default brightness based on gsmarena charts.
    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    That's the G3.

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    Okay, sorry for the confusion. Allow me to clear up any misunderstandings:

    The first attachment is of course GSMarena summary for the G Flex. I only looked on their site after seeing the numbers posted for S5 and G3, and it was so ludicrous I began laughing and had to share. That said, most sites reported anywhere from 12-20 hours of video life for the G Flex depending quality and average luminance of their preferred test clips. Cnet reported almost eighteen hours, for example. I like to keep an eye on NoteBookCheck for the high end phone reviews, they tend to do battery tests at a normalized absolute screen brightness (as close to 250 nits as they can?)

    The second screenshot is from my personal G Flex phone and is part of a set from the day I marathon-browsed to see how hard I could push it. That was ten hours, most of it in Opera browser which accumulated over five hours of CPU time....a while ago I posted a link to the set in a Dropbox folder.

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    For proofiness. I would love to see the G3 beat it of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustum View Post
    Is this screen from galaxy s5? LG G flex has abnormal video playback time compared to other numbers. S5 is very bright at default (50%) brightness. G3 is not that great at default brightness based on gsmarena charts.
    "Very" bright? Don't go outside and expect to see the screen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hodan View Post
    "Very" bright? Don't go outside and expect to see the screen...
    I am just pointing out at 50% brightness level S5 feels very bright relatively. I think, phone will bump up brightness when you step outside. G3 suppose to be not great with 50% brightness setting according to gsmarena. Not sure if they are favoring Samsung and downplaying g3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relgoshan View Post
    Okay, sorry for the confusion. Allow me to clear up any misunderstandings:

    For proofiness. I would love to see the G3 beat it of course.
    Can you summarize your test results (browsing and video play) for g flex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustum View Post
    Can you summarize your test results (browsing and video play) for g flex.
    SUMMARY: Browsing life is typical 8-10 hours for me on the sites that I frequent. Camera life, I think it can easily lose 20-30% per hour due to all the factors involved. Video and ebook reading it's basically unkillable so far, I always run out of time on the weekend and need to charge it for Monday. I leave all the radios on, but my only 24/7 messaging is Hangouts...the rest are logged out and shut down unless I need to use them. Well, eM@il and GMail set up normally and constantly ready. GMail is vastly inferior for sending attachments by the way.

    I have never gotten less than seven hours screen time in a 24hr period, or less than five in 48. It's better than my 7.0 LTE tablet. I only enable Knockon if it's going to be flat on a desk for hours, saves a few % per day leaving it off. I don't Airplane overnight.

    If you read ebooks in grey-on-black night mode or browse dark themed sites with something like Opera Mini, you should get 15-20 hours from a full charge. Videos I strongly agree with the wide 12-20 hour range, longer play for dark and SD; shorter for bright and FHD. Hitting bright sites in a rich media browser at high brightness over 4G, I think you'd probably get five hours in a charge. These are not lab numbers tho. I am on Sprint, ATT models should do better if locked in 3g only.

    TL;DR:

    I haven't done a lot of rigorous bench testing but over the last couple weeks I've been working toward a balanced video test and reading test that I can semi automate....since the endurance is sharply related to picture luma values.

    Er, that is to say OLED screens use power for each lit subpixel. BLACK being about zero and WHITE being max consumption. Pure colors only light Red, Green or Blue and are also power efficient if you can achieve them.

    So if one site uses very bright footage like Big Buck Bunny and another uses darker fare like Elephant's Dream, it will have a major impact on battery endurance for the video test. 480p, 720p or 1080p test clips also make a difference, and whether the test was loaded from storage or streamed over wifi ala Netflix. Unless whites were calibrated toward a target value in nits, there again is reduced value in the comparison between models. My screen calibrator broke two years ago and I have not replaced it :/ not enough demand.

    As we close in on the end of OLED, AMOLED, P-OLED catching up to IPS color reproduction and frame rates, more and more phones/tablets will see their screen power consumption drop from 50-70% down to 20-35% in a normal day....unless SoC power consumption suddenly drops by half in the near future.

    If silver based batteries are realized, power density roughly doubles compared to lithium polymer? So either an even thinner phone or a better endurance or performance. Sammy needs to get off its chair and ship a phone with a new Exynos, 64GB EVO-based SSD and a silver battery....that would be enough to hit low-end ultrabook territory.
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    I don't use the s5 that much since most of the time I am home and using my landline phones.

    However, the battery lasting NINE DAYS and still over 30% left is pretty good. I use Ultra Power Savings Mode when not in use by using TWO fingers to down sweep from the top.

    If one divides the Screen Time of 68 minutes by the Screen Percentage of 6%, one gets the Active Time of 18 hours and 52 minutes so far. However, I won't recharge until the battery is down to 15% so the Active Time will be higher.

    Does the LG G3 even have Ultra Power Savings Mode available?
    Your post is so wrong and misinformed I wouldn't even know where to begin. I am embarrassed for you.
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